SKS identification

jlflegal · November 2, 2001, 08:34 PM

I am looking at a Chinese SKS, the owner says its military.

On the left side of the receiver is a triangle with 26 inside.
Beside that are three chinese characters.
Beside that is the serial number which matches the one stamped on the top of the bolt carrier.
There is a different number on the bottom of the magazine and the trigger guard.
On the right side of the receiver is CJASFLD.ML

What does all this mean? Is it really a military? The bayonet is weird shaped, not like a regular blade. Does this strange bayonet signify its preban?

He says he's had it about seven years, shot a few rounds thru it, it, just wan't his cup of tea.. There is still traces of cosmoline in the the nooks and crannies.

Thanks in advance for any and all info.

johnAK · November 2, 2001, 11:58 PM

I think it's depends on when that SKS was imported,
when china first start selling SKS to US, it was real ex-military surplus,
then after SKS sells so well, china started produce commercial kind(short SKS for example) or assembled from various parts,

yankytrash · November 3, 2001, 12:13 AM

The 'funny-shaped' bayonet is correct for the Chinese SKS.

The triangle with the 26 indicates that at least the receiver was made at Arsenal 26. That's one of the most commonly available Chinese SKS's, and should be considered preban (late 70's production or so, probably). Aresenal 26 went out of production in 1977.

Take a very good look at the 'unmatching' serial numbers. Are they unmatching, or are the ones on the mag and trigger gaurd just missing the first couple numbers? If the latter is the case, you have a Chinese manufactured SKS put together with superior Russian parts (that's the deal the commies used to have).

It is near impossible to determine the actual year of production of an SKS, because there are many theories on the origin dates. Your mis-matched serial numbers could indicate a valuable late 50's production, or simply a replacement of some bad parts.

It's fairly common to assume that the second set of numbers in the main serial number (on the receiver) is the year of production, starting at 1 for 1957. For example, if your serial number is x02xxxx, your year of production would be 1958 (1956=0, so 1956+02=1958).

OK, now that you've determined preban "assault" rifle law, you have to determine the year of importation (IE, the '89 import ban restrictions). For that, we need to know what "CJASFLD.ML" means.

Let's get that serial number. Give it to us with the last two or three numbers Xed out, for security reasons. If the serial number is a letter, followed by numbers, BUY IT and ask questions later. The latter is one of the more valuable Chinese SKS's out there.

I'll try to dig up what country "ML" is.

The Gooch · November 3, 2001, 01:09 AM

www.simonov.net

should answer any questions you have

Gooch

yankytrash · November 4, 2001, 07:31 AM

I found an interesting bit of info on "ML". I believe it means "Marxist-Leninist".

So that narrows the origin of this gun to a Communist couintry, which is, unfortunately, the only place SKS's came from.

I'll keep searching for "CJASFLD".

wolfen2 · September 29, 2010, 07:26 PM

Hey all,
Used to pistols, just bought an SKS. Appears to be a Chinese Norinco SKS. The stock and blow-back cylinder cover are a bit rough, but appear to be original. It has the original 'cleaning stuff' in the butt stock, but not the rod. No biggie. It has the original Chinese marks and NOT the rebuilt (block/slash) marks. All the important parts are ingraved with the same I.D. as the last 4 or 5 digits of the stamped id.
Has an (looks original sling), and there seem to be no real issues.
This puppy has a really good barrel (as good looking as my duty Glock), and after tear down, there is really no wear to be noted on the receiver, etc. I was amazed, personally. It actually looks as good as my Glock service weapon.

I can give a service number, but I do not know how to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Chris Brodbeck

SN#-2202 0132 N (Chinese Norinco SKS)

November 2, 2001, 08:34 PM	#1
jlflegal Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2000 Posts: 129	SKS identification I am looking at a Chinese SKS, the owner says its military. On the left side of the receiver is a triangle with 26 inside. Beside that are three chinese characters. Beside that is the serial number which matches the one stamped on the top of the bolt carrier. There is a different number on the bottom of the magazine and the trigger guard. On the right side of the receiver is CJASFLD.ML What does all this mean? Is it really a military? The bayonet is weird shaped, not like a regular blade. Does this strange bayonet signify its preban? He says he's had it about seven years, shot a few rounds thru it, it, just wan't his cup of tea.. There is still traces of cosmoline in the the nooks and crannies. Thanks in advance for any and all info.

November 3, 2001, 01:09 AM	#4
The Gooch Member Join Date: June 4, 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 71	check this out www.simonov.net should answer any questions you have Gooch

September 29, 2010, 07:26 PM	#6
wolfen2 Junior Member Join Date: September 29, 2010 Posts: 3	Chinese Norinco Hey all, Used to pistols, just bought an SKS. Appears to be a Chinese Norinco SKS. The stock and blow-back cylinder cover are a bit rough, but appear to be original. It has the original 'cleaning stuff' in the butt stock, but not the rod. No biggie. It has the original Chinese marks and NOT the rebuilt (block/slash) marks. All the important parts are ingraved with the same I.D. as the last 4 or 5 digits of the stamped id. Has an (looks original sling), and there seem to be no real issues. This puppy has a really good barrel (as good looking as my duty Glock), and after tear down, there is really no wear to be noted on the receiver, etc. I was amazed, personally. It actually looks as good as my Glock service weapon. I can give a service number, but I do not know how to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Chris Brodbeck SN#-2202 0132 N (Chinese Norinco SKS)

November 2, 2001, 11:58 PM	#2
johnAK Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2001 Location: somewhere orange county,CA Posts: 398	I think it's depends on when that SKS was imported, when china first start selling SKS to US, it was real ex-military surplus, then after SKS sells so well, china started produce commercial kind(short SKS for example) or assembled from various parts,

November 3, 2001, 12:13 AM	#3
yankytrash Senior Member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Farnham, Va Posts: 2,183	The 'funny-shaped' bayonet is correct for the Chinese SKS. The triangle with the 26 indicates that at least the receiver was made at Arsenal 26. That's one of the most commonly available Chinese SKS's, and should be considered preban (late 70's production or so, probably). Aresenal 26 went out of production in 1977. Take a very good look at the 'unmatching' serial numbers. Are they unmatching, or are the ones on the mag and trigger gaurd just missing the first couple numbers? If the latter is the case, you have a Chinese manufactured SKS put together with superior Russian parts (that's the deal the commies used to have). It is near impossible to determine the actual year of production of an SKS, because there are many theories on the origin dates. Your mis-matched serial numbers could indicate a valuable late 50's production, or simply a replacement of some bad parts. It's fairly common to assume that the second set of numbers in the main serial number (on the receiver) is the year of production, starting at 1 for 1957. For example, if your serial number is x02xxxx, your year of production would be 1958 (1956=0, so 1956+02=1958). OK, now that you've determined preban "assault" rifle law, you have to determine the year of importation (IE, the '89 import ban restrictions). For that, we need to know what "CJASFLD.ML" means. Let's get that serial number. Give it to us with the last two or three numbers Xed out, for security reasons. If the serial number is a letter, followed by numbers, BUY IT and ask questions later. The latter is one of the more valuable Chinese SKS's out there. I'll try to dig up what country "ML" is.

November 4, 2001, 07:31 AM	#5
yankytrash Senior Member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Farnham, Va Posts: 2,183	I found an interesting bit of info on "ML". I believe it means "Marxist-Leninist". So that narrows the origin of this gun to a Communist couintry, which is, unfortunately, the only place SKS's came from. I'll keep searching for "CJASFLD".