Fav flame thrower loads?

bigboredave · May 21, 2001, 06:31 PM

Hi all
Just wondering what your favorite load to put on a show indoors. Mine has to me either 24gr of h110 behind a .44 240swc out of a 3" barrel or DELETED gr of h110, 255swc in .45 blackhawk. Both throw 2' flame and make a hell of boom. Yours?

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[Edited by Johnny Guest on 05-25-2001 at 02:38 AM]

Intel6 · May 22, 2001, 10:23 AM

30 grs or Win 296 behind a 180 JHP for a .44 Mag shot out of my 3" 629. I get about a 3-4 tube of blast out of the short barrel.

The max load of W296 behind a 125 JHP in .357 mag gives a nice blast from my Coonan .357 autoloader.

I have loaded up some 110 gr bullets in a 30-30 and shot them out of a 14" T/C barrel for some good blast.

Loading light bullets (300 JHP instead of a 500 gr SP) in my .460 Weatherby also has quite a muzzle blast. Since the case holds 100+ grs. of powder you get allot of it coming out of the short barrel of my Ruger #1H.

Hutch · May 22, 2001, 11:25 AM

In hot .357 w/ 125gr bullets, 4" revo, you get some INCREDIBLE, photo-flash results. I swear, I think it singed the hair off the knuckes of my hands. Just phenomenal. If bright is what you want, Blue Dot is how you get it.

tstr · May 22, 2001, 01:29 PM

I've not loaded a round specifically for a show, but a full charge of Power Pistol in my .357sig does make a fine flare. I figure I got a good deal with that gun; a hard hitting round with a built in flash-bang.

Tstr

hawk · May 23, 2001, 11:02 AM

Many years ago I used to load (if I remember right) 18.5 grs of W-296 in .357 Mag for a friend of mine. Used to set dry grass on fire when he would shoot from the prone position.

Johnny Guest · May 23, 2001, 10:32 PM

.45 Colt--
230 to 260 lead bullet and 30 gr. FFFg black powder.
Makes quite a flash and a lot of smo---
Wait--You wrote INDOORS, didn't you?

Never mind.

Best,
Johnny

Archie · May 23, 2001, 11:31 PM

shows up "flash bulb white" at a night shoot.

Clark · May 25, 2001, 12:00 AM

I get flame thrower effect from military 7.62x25mm loads ina CZ52.

I also get flame thrower [and LOUD]effects from hot handloads of Power Pistol in 9mm.

Those Moisin Nagant carbines are flame thowers with the military ammo. How did they beat the Germans with that?

Patrick Graham · May 25, 2001, 09:37 PM

Just about anything listed in the little Winchester reloading phamplet for WW296 is a real flame thrower. They recommend that the loads not be reduced.

The little Winchester phamplet lists 18.5 gr WW296 under a 125gr JHP with WSPM and a heavy crimp in 357 mag. I've loaded this and it's a flame thrower, a barn burner and a real attention getter. The Sierra 3rd edition lists 18.6 gr under a 125 jhp in 357 as the "starting" load and goes up to 21.1 gr. This is too hot, I did 21.1 gr in my GP100 and the primer started to swage into the firing pin hole. It'll burn the hair right off your cheeks, and I don't mean facial hair. :-) Yikes!!

Poodleshooter · May 28, 2001, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Those Moisin Nagant carbines are flame thowers with the military ammo. How did they beat the Germans with that?

You know how you have to leave the bayonet extended to get consistent groups with the M44? There's you answer!

Gator · May 29, 2001, 08:25 AM

bigboredave,

I've had a lot of fun with a 240 grain .44 mag softpoint with 24 grains of Winchester 296 powder. This is shot out of a 3 inch bar. S&W mdl. 629.

It's the only gun I have that has scared away tourists from the range.

The 300 grain rounds we made tried to remove themselves from the brass case because of the recoil. We stopped making that load.

(MAKE SURE to look this load up. I don't have my notes with me.)

Gator

BigG · May 29, 2001, 11:55 AM

Win White Box 38 Super +P will surround your shootin arn with a yellow nuclear glow in daylight outdoors.

Joe Portale · June 1, 2001, 12:30 PM

If ya'll want to see a fire ball, try a 357Sig loaded aith 124 grain Jacker Hollow point over 10 grains of Blue Dot. You will have a bright white ball about a foot in diameter.

As one guy at the range told me after seeing me touch of these..."If you miss the bad guy with the bullet, the noise and flash will make him keel over from a heart attack!"

wolfz · June 1, 2001, 04:46 PM

CZ52- 7.62X25 loaded to Accurate's #9 powders published max with a 90gr Hornady XTP bullet. Real Fire breathing dragon lady!

May 22, 2001, 11:25 AM	#3
Hutch Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2000 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,124	Blue Dot In hot .357 w/ 125gr bullets, 4" revo, you get some INCREDIBLE, photo-flash results. I swear, I think it singed the hair off the knuckes of my hands. Just phenomenal. If bright is what you want, Blue Dot is how you get it.

May 23, 2001, 11:31 PM	#7
Archie Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2000 Location: Hastings, Nebrasksa - the Hear Posts: 2,209	Super .38 with full power loads shows up "flash bulb white" at a night shoot.

May 29, 2001, 11:55 AM	#12
BigG Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,334	Ditto with Archie... Win White Box 38 Super +P will surround your shootin arn with a yellow nuclear glow in daylight outdoors.

May 21, 2001, 06:31 PM	#1
bigboredave Member Join Date: February 15, 2000 Posts: 22	Hi all Just wondering what your favorite load to put on a show indoors. Mine has to me either 24gr of h110 behind a .44 240swc out of a 3" barrel or DELETED gr of h110, 255swc in .45 blackhawk. Both throw 2' flame and make a hell of boom. Yours? MODERATOR EDIT: Please do not post loads which exceed published maximums without a BOLD PRINT cautionary note that one uses the data at one's own risk. Thank you Johnny Guest H&R Forum Moderator [Edited by Johnny Guest on 05-25-2001 at 02:38 AM]

May 22, 2001, 10:23 AM	#2
Intel6 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2000 Posts: 425	30 grs or Win 296 behind a 180 JHP for a .44 Mag shot out of my 3" 629. I get about a 3-4 tube of blast out of the short barrel. The max load of W296 behind a 125 JHP in .357 mag gives a nice blast from my Coonan .357 autoloader. I have loaded up some 110 gr bullets in a 30-30 and shot them out of a 14" T/C barrel for some good blast. Loading light bullets (300 JHP instead of a 500 gr SP) in my .460 Weatherby also has quite a muzzle blast. Since the case holds 100+ grs. of powder you get allot of it coming out of the short barrel of my Ruger #1H.

May 22, 2001, 01:29 PM	#4
tstr Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 233	I've not loaded a round specifically for a show, but a full charge of Power Pistol in my .357sig does make a fine flare. I figure I got a good deal with that gun; a hard hitting round with a built in flash-bang. Tstr

May 23, 2001, 11:02 AM	#5
hawk Member Join Date: May 17, 1999 Location: Fremont, NE Posts: 22	Many years ago I used to load (if I remember right) 18.5 grs of W-296 in .357 Mag for a friend of mine. Used to set dry grass on fire when he would shoot from the prone position.

May 23, 2001, 10:32 PM	#6
Johnny Guest Moderator in Memoriam Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,123	.45 Colt-- 230 to 260 lead bullet and 30 gr. FFFg black powder. Makes quite a flash and a lot of smo--- Wait--You wrote INDOORS, didn't you? Never mind. Best, Johnny

May 25, 2001, 12:00 AM	#8
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	I get flame thrower effect from military 7.62x25mm loads ina CZ52. I also get flame thrower [and LOUD]effects from hot handloads of Power Pistol in 9mm. Those Moisin Nagant carbines are flame thowers with the military ammo. How did they beat the Germans with that?

May 25, 2001, 09:37 PM	#9
Patrick Graham Junior member Join Date: January 18, 1999 Location: Kokomo, Indiana USA Posts: 674	Just about anything listed in the little Winchester reloading phamplet for WW296 is a real flame thrower. They recommend that the loads not be reduced. The little Winchester phamplet lists 18.5 gr WW296 under a 125gr JHP with WSPM and a heavy crimp in 357 mag. I've loaded this and it's a flame thrower, a barn burner and a real attention getter. The Sierra 3rd edition lists 18.6 gr under a 125 jhp in 357 as the "starting" load and goes up to 21.1 gr. This is too hot, I did 21.1 gr in my GP100 and the primer started to swage into the firing pin hole. It'll burn the hair right off your cheeks, and I don't mean facial hair. :-) Yikes!!

May 29, 2001, 08:25 AM	#11
Gator Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Location: Gainesville Posts: 141	bigboredave, I've had a lot of fun with a 240 grain .44 mag softpoint with 24 grains of Winchester 296 powder. This is shot out of a 3 inch bar. S&W mdl. 629. It's the only gun I have that has scared away tourists from the range. The 300 grain rounds we made tried to remove themselves from the brass case because of the recoil. We stopped making that load. (MAKE SURE to look this load up. I don't have my notes with me.) Gator

June 1, 2001, 12:30 PM	#13
Joe Portale Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 1999 Location: Tucson, Arizona Territory Posts: 715	If ya'll want to see a fire ball, try a 357Sig loaded aith 124 grain Jacker Hollow point over 10 grains of Blue Dot. You will have a bright white ball about a foot in diameter. As one guy at the range told me after seeing me touch of these..."If you miss the bad guy with the bullet, the noise and flash will make him keel over from a heart attack!"

June 1, 2001, 04:46 PM	#14
wolfz Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: Chandler, Az, USA Posts: 125	CZ52- 7.62X25 loaded to Accurate's #9 powders published max with a 90gr Hornady XTP bullet. Real Fire breathing dragon lady!