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Old April 21, 2025, 06:36 AM   #1
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Colorado, Iowa and South Dakota Updates

Colorado – SB 25-003 has been signed by the governor It looks like all gas operated long guns are banned for sale in the state. Looks like you can’t bring any into the states also. Doesn’t say that but if you can’t sell or buy them in the state you most likely can’t bring one in. Gas Operated handguns are also banned. Most handguns are recoil operated. I am also under the impression the Desert Eagle is Gas Operated. It also updates the punishment for having a higher cap mag from class 2 to class 1.
https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defau...5a_003_enr.pdf

Note: I had the wrong date for this bill to become law. The actual date is (2) ON OR AFTER AUGUST 1, 2026, IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO KNOWINGLY MANUFACTURE, DISTRIBUTE, TRANSFER, SELL, OR PURCHASE A SPECIFIED SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM;

Iowa – Effective July 1,2025 Iowa will issue a permit to carry to those 18 or older. The Governor signed the bill and even stated, “House File 924, an Act relating to the minimum age for acquiring or carrying weapons.” So this would also lower their age to carry under permitless carry and the age restrictions the previous version of this law stated you had to be 21.
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislati...ga=91&ba=HF924

South Dakota – Not Effective Until July 1, 2025. South Dakota has passed SB 100 which will allow those with a enhanced permit, a restricted enhanced permit, or a reciprocal permit to carry in State supported schools of higher education. This also includes stun guns, mace and pepper spray. You can read the bill at
https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/25721/284243

South Dakota – Not Effective Until July 1, 2025 South Dakota passed SB 1222 which will allow those carrying a firearm with a permit to drive onto school property (K-12) to drop off and pick up their children. They will also be able to secure their firearm inside the vehicle. There law was very wordy and it was hard to read the law and know for sure if you could have it on you while dropping off children. That has been settled now. You can read the bill at: https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/26055/283883

South Dakota – Not Effective Until July 1. 2015 South Dakota passed HB 1218 which instructs Counties, Townships and Municipality they can not stop employees with a “Permit to Carry” from carrying their Concealed firearm on the job. https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/26037/284516
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Old April 21, 2025, 12:29 PM   #3
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South Dakota – Not Effective Until July 1. 2015 South Dakota passed HB 1218 which instructs Counties, Townships and Municipality they can not stop employees with a “Permit to Carry” from carrying their Concealed firearm on the job.
WOW!

I wish my state were equally enlightened. I work for a municipality, and I can't even leave a firearm locked in my vehicle in the parking lot. The same is true in my home town.
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For those in doubt, the Desert Eagle is gas operated, about the only gas operated pistol design still in production. I'm sure the law was written the way it was to cover the AR/AK class pistols which are in production.

There are virtually no current production recoil operated rifles these days, haven't been for a long time.

There is a slippery slope built in to the concept of banning ANY "gas operated" firearms, one the anti gun people would happily stretch to its limits (and beyond) and likely will do so when they feel they have the votes to pass it.

ALL firearms, by definition, "work" by propelling the bullet with the expanding gas from the powder charge burning. A relatively simple change in the legislative definition of "operate" could be used to include every firearm.

At this time, the risk isn't great, but it does exist, as long as those zealots are in office.
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There is a slippery slope built in to the concept of banning ANY "gas operated" firearms, one the anti gun people would happily stretch to its limits (and beyond) and likely will do so when they feel they have the votes to pass it.

ALL firearms, by definition, "work" by propelling the bullet with the expanding gas from the powder charge burning. A relatively simple change in the legislative definition of "operate" could be used to include every firearm.

At this time, the risk isn't great, but it does exist, as long as those zealots are in office.
To those of us who are risk-averse, any risk is too much risk. And the zealots will be there for the foreseeable future.

Even if we discount the fact that gas propels the bullet -- it's not a stretch to imagine that a zealot might decide that the operation of the bolt in a semi-automatic rifle or the slide of a semi-automatic handgun is "gas operated." Once they go there, we're left with revolvers, and bolt and lever action rifles.

Something about camels, and noses, and tents ...
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Old April 21, 2025, 09:12 PM   #6
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Once they go there, we're left with revolvers, and bolt and lever action rifles.
Going to extremes we might not be left with revolvers!

The 1994 AWB banned the Streetsweeper and Stryker 12 shotguns, and included language to ban any other firearm "substantially similar to" them.

While the 1994 Federal law sunset in 2004, several of the individual states that copycatted the Fed law did not, and contain the same kind of language, if not exactly the same.

The banned shotguns LOOK like they have drum magazines, but they do not. They actually have cylinders, (like a revolver) and fire using a DA trigger pull like a revolver.

At the time, the promoters of the law were careful to avoid pointing that out. Had it been common knowledge that the law COULD also ban/restrict revolvers, I doubt it would have passed. I think they kept quiet about that portion so it would be passed, and later on down the road they could use the "established law" to restrict revolver ownership.

In states where that law still exists, they might yet try that trick.
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