Tisas Fatih B380

Trooper Joe · April 19, 2024, 09:43 PM

Just picked up this Tisas from my dealer today. Seems like a very well made pistol and I am sure it will help me with the void of selling my Beretta 84 several years ago.

Any experience with these?

Trooper Joe

Metric · April 19, 2024, 10:33 PM

No experience with these, but glad to see the design in successful production, and also glad to see they are now putting wood grips on them.

The market needs all-metal designs like this.

Seems like the price has gone up since last time I checked, but I suppose that applies to a lot of things.

blchandl2 · April 20, 2024, 08:21 AM

I have an ATI MS380 which is made by Tisas. It appears to be the pre-cursor to the Fatih 380. I have had no issues with it.

44caliberkid · April 20, 2024, 12:32 PM

I have always been interested in getting the Beretta or BDA version of that pistol. The Tisas one looks nice. Looking forward to a range report.

Metric · April 20, 2024, 01:46 PM

I also just noticed from the OP pictures that they have re-designed the frame on the Fatih (mostly around the trigger guard) to more closely match the curves of the 84FS.

The old Fatih looked like this. IMO the new version above is much improved -- particularly with the nice clean surfaces that haven't been plastered with multiple imperative sentences, as Beretta has done:

And this is the new one:

Edit: Also, wow -- looks like the front sight is now dovetailed, too. Not only have the improved the Fatih, they are probably ahead of Beretta at this point. Haven't been able to get a Beretta 84 that allowed "cocked and locked" carry since the early 1990's.

Trooper Joe · April 20, 2024, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metric

I also just noticed from the OP pictures that they have re-designed the frame on the Fatih (mostly around the trigger guard) to more closely match the curves of the 84FS.

The old Fatih looked like this. IMO the new version above is much improved -- particularly with the nice clean surfaces that haven't been plastered with multiple imperative sentences, as Beretta has done:

And this is the new one:

Edit: Also, wow -- looks like the front sight is now dovetailed, too. Not only have the improved the Fatih, they are probably ahead of Beretta at this point. Haven't been able to get a Beretta 84 that allowed "cocked and locked" carry since the early 1990's.

They did redesign the frame. I actually wanted (and thought I ordered) the older style with the rounded trigger guard. I was going to return it, but while I was waiting on the phone for the vendor’s management to approve the return, I decided to keep the one they sent me. The only problem I have had so far is that I have a pair of grips to fit the older style coming from Turkey. I have been in touch with the grip maker (jtacgripsusa) who sort of hinted he could make a pair of grips to fit the curved grip on the new model. I decided I will not try to get a refund on the first grip set. I will just pay for the second set.

This vendor, jtacgripsusa, is really great.

Trooper Joe

Metric · April 21, 2024, 12:08 PM

The frame design is now so close to the Beretta 84, that grips made for the 84 might fit. The old design was close enough that they would "sorta fit," but you had to do something about the lack of a Beretta-like recurve near the bottom of the grip. It appears the Fatih redesign has now incorporated the same recurve as the Beretta.

Not sure what kind of grips you are thinking about, but the universe of possibilities might have just gotten much larger. Of course you'll have to double-check, but I'm sure someone knows.

jar · April 21, 2024, 02:53 PM

I have the earlier Fatih from Tisas and yes, grips for it did need to be modified. Here is my 81 and my Fatih 13.

The Fatih wearing Brazilian Cherry Herrets:

My Beretta 81 wearing similar Brazilian Cherry grip panels but checkered.

Trooper Joe · May 23, 2024, 07:15 PM

Just received my new grips from jtacgripsusa in Turkey. He first sent me a set of grips that fit the original straight grip frame Fatih 13. I contacted him and he said he could make a set to fit the new style Fatih 13 with the slightly forward curve to the grip frame.

This is the original grip that jtacgripsusa sent me (with the stock grip laying next to the gun):

Here is the new set I just got from him:

These grips are absolutely great. This is probably the first set jtacgripsusa made for the new style Fatih 13. They fit perfectly.

Trooper Joe

Shoots Left · May 16, 2025, 02:43 PM

Yes I know that I’m resurrecting a year old thread but it covers most of what I’m looking for already so, why not?

Right now PSA has these little buggers on sale for $269.99. At that price I’m interested. So Trooper Joe, if you’re still here somewhere in the TFL cosmos, I want to know your impressions of the Fatih after one year of ownership. Also would you drop 270 clams on a new one today?

If anyone else has some thoughts on the Fatih, I’m listening.

Thanks.

Trooper Joe · May 16, 2025, 06:56 PM

I sure would. It is a great handgun.

TJ

Shoots Left · May 18, 2025, 10:44 PM

Thanks for the feedback Trooper. Looks like resurrecting this thread is going to cost me a little bit, but in a good way

**Aguila Blanca** · May 19, 2025, 12:04 AM

Sad to say, I much prefer the look of the older model with the round trigger guard and straight front strap.

Jack19 · May 21, 2025, 08:18 PM

With the F/FS style trigger guard they'll fit securely in current 80X holsters.

I've got an 84FS and don't know how different the Turk pistols are from the originals, but I'd change the recoil spring on the Beretta schedule if they are an internal clone as well.

Shoots Left · May 21, 2025, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack19

I've got an 84FS and don't know how different the Turk pistols are from the originals, but I'd change the recoil spring on the Beretta schedule if they are an internal clone as well.

I can't speak to the similarities between the Tisas and the real deal but perusing the Tisas' owner's manual online there was no mention, that I saw, about scheduled recoil spring changes. Having said that, I am interested in what Beretta's suggested recoil spring schedule is. I tried to Google it but got returns mostly for replacement spring sources or other useless links.

According to UPS my FFL should receive my Fatih sometime tomorrow. If everything goes smoothly hopefully I can get it out to the range early next week and see what I've gotten myself in to.

Jack19 · May 22, 2025, 02:05 PM

The hammer and recoil spring are recommended at 5000 rounds. The trigger spring at, I want to say, 20k.

I'd be diligent about the recoil spring; the .380 does give a pounding to the design.

Shoots Left · May 23, 2025, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack19

The hammer and recoil spring are recommended at 5000 rounds. The trigger spring at, I want to say, 20k.

I'd be diligent about the recoil spring; the .380 does give a pounding to the design.

Thanks for the info. I might reach out to Tisas and see if they have any maintenance recommendations regrading the springs.

On an aside note: the grips on this thing have some serious girth to 'em. I wear XL gloves so usually handgun grips are not something I necessarily notice unless they're really small. I noticed these.

I won't be able to get out to the range until next week to see how well I shoot the Fatih with the stock grips. In any case I'm certain that some thinner grips would only enhance the shooting experience so I've gone ahead and ordered some LOK thin grips. I hope I'm right about this.

Shoots Left · June 13, 2025, 11:37 PM

Like others here I ordered some new grips for my Fatty. The stock panels were like holding a 10oz Dr Pepper bottle. Installed the new LOK grips without any issues. Can't wait to try 'em out at the range.

Two pics below: 1) a rear view to contrast the old and new grip panel thickness and 2) profile look.

April 19, 2024, 09:43 PM	#1
Trooper Joe Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 238	Tisas Fatih B380 Just picked up this Tisas from my dealer today. Seems like a very well made pistol and I am sure it will help me with the void of selling my Beretta 84 several years ago. Any experience with these? Trooper Joe

April 20, 2024, 01:46 PM	#5
Metric Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2016 Posts: 389	I also just noticed from the OP pictures that they have re-designed the frame on the Fatih (mostly around the trigger guard) to more closely match the curves of the 84FS. The old Fatih looked like this. IMO the new version above is much improved -- particularly with the nice clean surfaces that haven't been plastered with multiple imperative sentences, as Beretta has done: And this is the new one: Edit: Also, wow -- looks like the front sight is now dovetailed, too. Not only have the improved the Fatih, they are probably ahead of Beretta at this point. Haven't been able to get a Beretta 84 that allowed "cocked and locked" carry since the early 1990's. Last edited by Metric; April 20, 2024 at 02:10 PM.

May 23, 2024, 07:15 PM	#9
Trooper Joe Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 238	Fatih 13 grips from Turkey Just received my new grips from jtacgripsusa in Turkey. He first sent me a set of grips that fit the original straight grip frame Fatih 13. I contacted him and he said he could make a set to fit the new style Fatih 13 with the slightly forward curve to the grip frame. This is the original grip that jtacgripsusa sent me (with the stock grip laying next to the gun): Here is the new set I just got from him: These grips are absolutely great. This is probably the first set jtacgripsusa made for the new style Fatih 13. They fit perfectly. Trooper Joe

May 19, 2025, 12:04 AM	#13
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 19,051	Sad to say, I much prefer the look of the older model with the round trigger guard and straight front strap. __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

May 21, 2025, 08:18 PM	#14
Jack19 Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 751	With the F/FS style trigger guard they'll fit securely in current 80X holsters. I've got an 84FS and don't know how different the Turk pistols are from the originals, but I'd change the recoil spring on the Beretta schedule if they are an internal clone as well. __________________ Once people stop believing in God, the problem is not that they will believe in nothing; rather, the problem is that they will believe anything. - C. S. Lewis

April 19, 2024, 10:33 PM	#2
Metric Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2016 Posts: 389	No experience with these, but glad to see the design in successful production, and also glad to see they are now putting wood grips on them. The market needs all-metal designs like this. Seems like the price has gone up since last time I checked, but I suppose that applies to a lot of things.

April 20, 2024, 08:21 AM	#3
blchandl2 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2008 Location: TN Posts: 528	I have an ATI MS380 which is made by Tisas. It appears to be the pre-cursor to the Fatih 380. I have had no issues with it.

April 20, 2024, 12:32 PM	#4
44caliberkid Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2017 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,277	I have always been interested in getting the Beretta or BDA version of that pistol. The Tisas one looks nice. Looking forward to a range report.

April 21, 2024, 12:08 PM	#7
Metric Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2016 Posts: 389	The frame design is now so close to the Beretta 84, that grips made for the 84 might fit. The old design was close enough that they would "sorta fit," but you had to do something about the lack of a Beretta-like recurve near the bottom of the grip. It appears the Fatih redesign has now incorporated the same recurve as the Beretta. Not sure what kind of grips you are thinking about, but the universe of possibilities might have just gotten much larger. Of course you'll have to double-check, but I'm sure someone knows.

May 16, 2025, 02:43 PM	#10
Shoots Left Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2024 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 129	Yes I know that I’m resurrecting a year old thread but it covers most of what I’m looking for already so, why not? Right now PSA has these little buggers on sale for $269.99. At that price I’m interested. So Trooper Joe, if you’re still here somewhere in the TFL cosmos, I want to know your impressions of the Fatih after one year of ownership. Also would you drop 270 clams on a new one today? If anyone else has some thoughts on the Fatih, I’m listening. Thanks.

May 16, 2025, 06:56 PM	#11
Trooper Joe Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 238	I sure would. It is a great handgun. TJ

May 18, 2025, 10:44 PM	#12
Shoots Left Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2024 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 129	Thanks for the feedback Trooper. Looks like resurrecting this thread is going to cost me a little bit, but in a good way

May 22, 2025, 02:05 PM	#16
Jack19 Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 751	The hammer and recoil spring are recommended at 5000 rounds. The trigger spring at, I want to say, 20k. I'd be diligent about the recoil spring; the .380 does give a pounding to the design. __________________ Once people stop believing in God, the problem is not that they will believe in nothing; rather, the problem is that they will believe anything. - C. S. Lewis

June 13, 2025, 11:37 PM	#18
Shoots Left Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2024 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 129	Like others here I ordered some new grips for my Fatty. The stock panels were like holding a 10oz Dr Pepper bottle. Installed the new LOK grips without any issues. Can't wait to try 'em out at the range. Two pics below: 1) a rear view to contrast the old and new grip panel thickness and 2) profile look.