Austrian Glocks

[simonrichter]

just out of interest: Are all Glocks circulating in the US also made in USA or are there Austrian-made specimen available as well? The other way round, I've never seen a US made one other than in pictures...

[TunnelRat]

The majority of Glocks I see in stores are Austrian made.


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[Siggy-06]

Seen a mixture of both here in FL. I usually buy the Austrian made Glocks, just a personal preference.

[Shadow9mm]

as I understand it, frames are USA made and many of the parts are imported from Austria.

[Rob228]

Just looking at mine it says Made in Austria, Glock USA Smyrna Georgia. Pretty sure Shadow9mm has it right.

[TunnelRat]

Keep in mind that firearms that are imported will have the importer marked on the frame. This means you might have a frame that is marked as being made in another country, such as Austria for Glock or Germany for HK, and then will have the US subsidiary of that company, Glock USA or HK USA, also marked on the frame as that was the importer.

This article explains how the markings on the frame, slide, and barrel of Glocks in the US vary based on the original place of manufacture.

https://smallarmssolutions.com/home/...a-made-pistols


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[reynolds357]

I have never seen a Glock made anywhere other than Austria.

[dogtown tom]

simonrichter just out of interest: Are all Glocks circulating in the US also made in USA or are there Austrian-made specimen available as well? The other way round, I've never seen a US made one other than in pictures...

The majority of Glock pistols sold in the US are manufactured in Austria.
Some models are not importable for the US commercial market and are LE only due to the ATF Factoring Criteria for handguns.

Due to EU restrictions on firearm sales, some European companies like Glock manufacture US made models for sale and export to countries that Austria cannot sell to.

[dogtown tom]

Shadow9mm as I understand it, frames are USA made and many of the parts are imported from Austria.

Complete pistols are imported.

[dogtown tom]

reynolds357 I have never seen a Glock made anywhere other than Austria.

Never seen a Glock 42, 43, 43X or 48?

They are made in the USA due to the ATF import criteria.
Plenty of other Glocks are US made as well.

[Groundhog34]

There is a large factory in Atlanta where Glocks are assembled and in some instances manufactured. I believe 42s and 43s are manufactured there.

[wild cat mccane]

Difference found in PA vs AU skus. PA are Austrian. Actually found them equal online when i went to get my PA 19.

[reynolds357]

Originally Posted by dogtown tom

Never seen a Glock 42, 43, 43X or 48?

They are made in the USA due to the ATF import criteria.
Plenty of other Glocks are US made as well.

That's odd, my 43x says "made in Austria". Glock must have smuggled it in. My19x and the other 6 I have were made there too. I know there are USA made Glocks, but as I said, I have never seen one.

[akpls]

My 43 says "USA" on the slide and "Made in USA Glock, Inc., Smyrna, GA" on the frame.

[reynolds357]

Originally Posted by akpls

My 43 says "USA" on the slide and "Made in USA Glock, Inc., Smyrna, GA" on the frame.

I can add this to the list of pictures I have seen of US Glocks. I still have not seen a US Glock.

[eflyguy]

All mine here at my house are US. My G43 EDC on my side-table is identical to above.



I think my daughter's G17 is Austria.

[wild cat mccane]

Friends. My sku comment above tells you all you need

[TunnelRat]

Originally Posted by wild cat mccane

Friends. My sku comment above tells you all you need

It tells them all they need to know if they have the SKU handy, which they likely don’t if they’re just looking at the pistol without the box. If they’re curious about a pistol they are looking at in front of them they can just look at the markings on the pistol itself.


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[wild cat mccane]

Only the ATF list will confirm us made vs import. However, sku on gun.deals shows volume. It's a lot both ways. Glock. So efficient that they couldnt make the UA sku to be USA.

[eflyguy]

Originally Posted by wild cat mccane

Friends. My sku comment above tells you all you need

That's nice.

I just checked and not a single one of my boxes has SKU's that begin with those. I didn't write them down but TK and PR were a couple.

All my Glocks were purchased in Smyrna (Adventure Outdoors) except for one privately, and every box has radically different SKU's.

Plus I just checked the actual pistols and all have USA stamped on them. My daughter is away so can't confirm her G17 has Austria on it, but I'm pretty certain it does because I was interested to see it when I bought it about a decade ago.

They all go bang when required. I've never had an issue and don't care where they were manufactured/assembled.

[TunnelRat]

The markings on the pistol tell you where it was made when it comes to Glock. To my knowledge this isn’t like HK or SIG where they import the pistols as parts and then reassemble them here (unless someone has proof otherwise that’s the impression I will continue to work under).

My point above was that someone looking at a pistol may well not have the SKU associated with that pistol, but generally they have the pistol and the pistol itself is marked. Knowing what SKU comes from where is great if you’re ordering the pistol personally, but if you already have that pistol or are buying it locally you may not be able to use that information. That’s why I responded when you said your comment about which SKUs come from where tells you all you need. As eflyguy points out, you might not even be able to remedy it solely by SKU depending on when the pistol was produced.

I’m also of the opinion that if the barrel, slide, and frame are made in a foreign country then for all practical purposes that pistol was made in that country. What the ATF cares about for legal purposes when it comes to the definition of an imported firearm is frankly their concern and not necessarily my concern as a shooter. We’re talking about mass produced pistols that don’t receive hand fitting. Whether a box of parts is put together here or in Austria is immaterial to me, your opinion may differ. It does also matter to some collectors of certain manufacturers, but I don’t personally consider the majority of Glocks collectible.


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[eflyguy]

Had my ex check (daughter lives with her) my daughter's G17 - USPSA match pistol but she keeps it on her nightstand loaded with defense ammo - indeed is stamped Austria. So that's the only one of several.

No idea when the guy I bought it from had bought it.

[wild cat mccane]

Question was volume. The question was not an individual. Every individual knows that cause the slide says it. AU and PA are glock skus, not serial. Volume is going to be answered via sku per model

[TunnelRat]

Originally Posted by wild cat mccane

Question was volume. The question was not an individual. Every individual knows that cause the slide says it. AU and PA are glock skus, not serial. Volume is going to be answered via sku per model

Actually the question in the OP is whether the Glocks in the US are solely US built or Austrian as well. All we need to do is confirm that one Glock in the US was made in Austria and we really have the answer. We can do that by looking at the markings on individual pistols.

I can see you wanting to extend this further to try to figure out percentages, but then that brings up the question of what we want to know in particular. Are we interested in sales in a given year (if so, which year, this year?) or overall sales from the start of when Glocks have been sold in the US? We can try to use those SKUs for current sales, but if those SKUs were different in the past then we have a problem for historical sales.

You have presented SKUs and alluded to gun deals, but if your goal is to look at volume then you need sales data relative to those SKUs. Gun.deals is great at looking at what is inventory for the dealers that are listed on the site, but it doesn’t tell you sales. If you know where on that website it gives overall sales figures per SKU please let us know.


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[wild cat mccane]

Precusor to gun.com now gun.deals, gunwatcher.com, has or had that feaure