Quality of Euroarms?

detroiter711 · March 16, 2016, 06:20 PM

There is a Euroarms 1851 Navy available locally for $100. It is in the original box and appears to have never been fired. Looks to be mid-1970s production. Is it worth it or would I be better off with a Pietta from Cabelas? It appears nicely finished with a good overall fit. I would like some feedback on the internals as I am not familiar with the brand. If it is a good deal I will pick it up, but I really don't want a wallhanger or dust collector if the brand is less than reputable.

Fingers McGee · March 16, 2016, 07:29 PM

Euroarms made some good revolvers back in the day. $100.00 for an ufired one with the box is a steal.

Hawg · March 16, 2016, 08:34 PM

Euroarms is good. Go for it.

Gavlan · March 16, 2016, 08:48 PM

For $100 watch for cops, they arrest thieves.
I have 51 navy made in 1971 still going strong.

Hellgate · March 17, 2016, 01:03 AM

If it is a steel frame it is a steal. If it is a brass frame then it's still a good deal but no steal. I can only speak for Euroarms Remingtons of which I've owned eight. One's cylinder was so poorly made that the chamber/bore line up was horrible and the gun would jam tight from leading of the cylinder gap in two shots. I was able to drop in an Uberti Remington cylinder and it was good to go. The others have been between "serviceable" and quite good. I still have 7 left.

DPris · March 17, 2016, 01:30 AM

I have a steel Euro Remington .36 from '89.
Chambers do not align precisely with the bore, but I had the forcing cone opened up very slightly & it's an accurate shooter.
Gunsmith commented the barrel was harder steel than he was used to in repros.

Has Address Sam'l Colt stamped on the barrel.
Denis

Hawg · March 17, 2016, 01:39 AM

Quote:

I have a steel Euro Remington .36 from '89.
Chambers do not align precisely with the bore, but I had the forcing cone opened up very slightly & it's an accurate shooter.
Gunsmith commented the barrel was harder steel than he was used to in repros.

Has Address Sam'l Colt stamped on the barrel.

Are you sure that's not an ASM?

DPris · March 17, 2016, 02:16 AM

Yup.
Euro.
Denis

detroiter711 · March 29, 2016, 07:40 PM

So I picked it up last week. Overall, condition is good, but I think it has definitely been shot before. There is a bit of over travel on two specific chambers which leaves me concerned. Can this be corrected?

Hellgate · March 29, 2016, 11:49 PM

Detroiter,
Whenever I get a new used C&B I rapidly cock it to see if I get any over travel of the cylinder. If so, I slowly cock it and watch the bolt stop to see when it pops up. If it is at all late or right at the level of the cylinder notch when it pops up I will file/sand/grind the tiniest bit off the top of left wing of the bolt stop so the bolt comes up a teeny bit sooner so the bolt slides into the notch in the cylinder. It only takes a hair to correct so don't go wild on the bolt stop wing. If a more sophisitcate gunsmith has a differing opinion then let's hear it. I am merely an "advanced tinkerer" and not a formal gunsmith. The 37 or 8 C&Bs I've owned have forced me to tinker to get them running right.

gyvel · March 30, 2016, 03:01 AM

Quote:

I have a steel Euro Remington .36 from '89.
Chambers do not align precisely with the bore, but I had the forcing cone opened up very slightly & it's an accurate shooter.
Gunsmith commented the barrel was harder steel than he was used to in repros.

Has Address Sam'l Colt stamped on the barrel.

A "Remington .36" has "Address Sam'l Colt" on the barrel...

???????

Hawg · March 30, 2016, 01:18 PM

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A "Remington .36" has "Address Sam'l Colt" on the barrel...

???????

Geez, I missed that. He did say Remington.

detroiter711 · March 30, 2016, 03:52 PM

I am thinking that the bolt is not fully engaging the cylinder stops

DPris · March 30, 2016, 09:48 PM

I thought it was quite funny to see that "Colt" on the Remington barrel.

The Italian replica industry can be....strange.
Denis

March 16, 2016, 06:20 PM	#1
detroiter711 Member Join Date: February 3, 2016 Posts: 21	Quality of Euroarms? There is a Euroarms 1851 Navy available locally for $100. It is in the original box and appears to have never been fired. Looks to be mid-1970s production. Is it worth it or would I be better off with a Pietta from Cabelas? It appears nicely finished with a good overall fit. I would like some feedback on the internals as I am not familiar with the brand. If it is a good deal I will pick it up, but I really don't want a wallhanger or dust collector if the brand is less than reputable.

March 17, 2016, 01:03 AM	#5
Hellgate Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2010 Location: Orygun Posts: 881	If it is a steel frame it is a steal. If it is a brass frame then it's still a good deal but no steal. I can only speak for Euroarms Remingtons of which I've owned eight. One's cylinder was so poorly made that the chamber/bore line up was horrible and the gun would jam tight from leading of the cylinder gap in two shots. I was able to drop in an Uberti Remington cylinder and it was good to go. The others have been between "serviceable" and quite good. I still have 7 left. __________________ With over 15 perCUSSIN' revolvers, I've been called the Imelda Marcos of cap & ball. SASS#3302 (Life), SASS Regulator, NRA (Life), Dirty Gamey Bastards #129 Wolverton Mtn. Peacekeepers (WA), former Orygun Cowboy (Ranger, Posse from Hell) Last edited by Hellgate; March 17, 2016 at 12:10 PM.

March 29, 2016, 11:49 PM	#10
Hellgate Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2010 Location: Orygun Posts: 881	Detroiter, Whenever I get a new used C&B I rapidly cock it to see if I get any over travel of the cylinder. If so, I slowly cock it and watch the bolt stop to see when it pops up. If it is at all late or right at the level of the cylinder notch when it pops up I will file/sand/grind the tiniest bit off the top of left wing of the bolt stop so the bolt comes up a teeny bit sooner so the bolt slides into the notch in the cylinder. It only takes a hair to correct so don't go wild on the bolt stop wing. If a more sophisitcate gunsmith has a differing opinion then let's hear it. I am merely an "advanced tinkerer" and not a formal gunsmith. The 37 or 8 C&Bs I've owned have forced me to tinker to get them running right. __________________ With over 15 perCUSSIN' revolvers, I've been called the Imelda Marcos of cap & ball. SASS#3302 (Life), SASS Regulator, NRA (Life), Dirty Gamey Bastards #129 Wolverton Mtn. Peacekeepers (WA), former Orygun Cowboy (Ranger, Posse from Hell)

March 16, 2016, 07:29 PM	#2
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Euroarms made some good revolvers back in the day. $100.00 for an ufired one with the box is a steal.

March 16, 2016, 08:34 PM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,376	Euroarms is good. Go for it.

March 16, 2016, 08:48 PM	#4
Gavlan Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2015 Posts: 108	For $100 watch for cops, they arrest thieves. I have 51 navy made in 1971 still going strong.

March 17, 2016, 01:30 AM	#6
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	I have a steel Euro Remington .36 from '89. Chambers do not align precisely with the bore, but I had the forcing cone opened up very slightly & it's an accurate shooter. Gunsmith commented the barrel was harder steel than he was used to in repros. Has Address Sam'l Colt stamped on the barrel. Denis

March 17, 2016, 02:16 AM	#8
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Yup. Euro. Denis

March 29, 2016, 07:40 PM	#9
detroiter711 Member Join Date: February 3, 2016 Posts: 21	So I picked it up last week. Overall, condition is good, but I think it has definitely been shot before. There is a bit of over travel on two specific chambers which leaves me concerned. Can this be corrected?

March 30, 2016, 03:52 PM	#13
detroiter711 Member Join Date: February 3, 2016 Posts: 21	I am thinking that the bolt is not fully engaging the cylinder stops

March 30, 2016, 09:48 PM	#14
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	I thought it was quite funny to see that "Colt" on the Remington barrel. The Italian replica industry can be....strange. Denis