Ceska Zbrojovka-Narodni Podnik Strakonice

cnegley3rd · January 31, 2016, 12:03 PM

Made in Czechoslovakia, 6.35 is circled, 48 is also stamped. Does anybody know anything about this old pistol my mother in law gave us? Has serial #89830. Mainly, what ammo does it shoot? Thanks for helping.

James K · January 31, 2016, 12:10 PM

6.35mm is the European equivalent of what we call .25 ACP, and that is the ammunition it fires. We cannot tell more without a good picture, since that company made several guns of that caliber.

Jim

highpower3006 · January 31, 2016, 12:10 PM

Not much of a description. You really need to post pictures.

Kind of like: I have a car made by GM with a V8. What is it?

CaptainO · January 31, 2016, 09:04 PM

I believe that they ae correct. What you have is a .25 ACP pistol. Of CZ manufacture. It comes from the Czech Republic and should be of decent quality.

If it is in good condition it should shoot modern .25 ACP ammunition (of USA manufacture). Generally speaking, US .25 ACP (from the major manufacturers is a bit on the anemic side). This is done because the "litigation factor" is nor to be dismissed. (Meaning that if a pistol is too frail, and it ruptures, the first thing blamed is the ammunition).

If a gunsmith declares it safe to shoot, go purchase some factory .25 ACP and enjoy your handgun.

gyvel · January 31, 2016, 09:46 PM

If it's DA only, it's most likely a CZ45 (or possibly, though unlikely, a CZ36).

If not DA, it could also be a "Z" which was the renamed Czech "Duo," a small gun similar to an FN/Browning 1906. Those are your most likely suspects.

"48" is the year it was submitted for proof testing and is most likely the year of manufacture as well.

Post some photos: Left side, right side, and closeup of slide markings.

gyvel · January 31, 2016, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Kind of like: I have a car made by GM with a V8. What is it?

A rust bucket with a bad ignition switch.

gyvel · January 31, 2016, 09:57 PM

FWIW, that particular gun is still made as the "CZ 92," but is not able to be imported into the U.S.

Limnophile · January 31, 2016, 10:27 PM

All firearms production at CZ-Strakonice was halted in 1955 and consolidared at CZ-Uhersky Brod. Thus, the OP is correct in saying the pistol is of Czechoslovak manufacture, because the Czech Republic did not exist until 1993.

Being a .25 Auto of Czechoslovakian manufacture before 1956, it could be a CZ 22, a CZ 36, a CZ DUO, or a CZ 45. This article may help you determine which it is: http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/2CZ25s/2cz25s.html.

CZ-UB currently makes the CZ 92, which is unavailable because it does not have enogh ATF points to be imported. CZ Custom was talking about building some here, but I never saw that they did.

gyvel · January 31, 2016, 10:45 PM

Anything is possible, but the probability of it being a CZ22 are low; I have only seen photos of the CZ22, which was apparently also known as the "Fox."

(Not to be confused with the Nickl designed CZ22 which was a .380.)

As an afterthought, being marked "Narodni Podnik" which is (more or less) "People's Factory," the likelihood is that it is a CZ45, since only that gun and the "Z" were produced in any quantities after the Communist takeover.

The "Z" however was not marked "Ceska Zbrojovka-Narodni Podnik Strakonice" as far I have been able to determine.

January 31, 2016, 12:03 PM	#1
cnegley3rd Junior Member Join Date: January 16, 2016 Posts: 1	Ceska Zbrojovka-Narodni Podnik Strakonice Made in Czechoslovakia, 6.35 is circled, 48 is also stamped. Does anybody know anything about this old pistol my mother in law gave us? Has serial #89830. Mainly, what ammo does it shoot? Thanks for helping.

January 31, 2016, 09:46 PM	#5
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	If it's DA only, it's most likely a CZ45 (or possibly, though unlikely, a CZ36). If not DA, it could also be a "Z" which was the renamed Czech "Duo," a small gun similar to an FN/Browning 1906. Those are your most likely suspects. "48" is the year it was submitted for proof testing and is most likely the year of manufacture as well. Post some photos: Left side, right side, and closeup of slide markings. Last edited by gyvel; January 31, 2016 at 09:58 PM.

January 31, 2016, 10:45 PM	#9
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Anything is possible, but the probability of it being a CZ22 are low; I have only seen photos of the CZ22, which was apparently also known as the "Fox." (Not to be confused with the Nickl designed CZ22 which was a .380.) As an afterthought, being marked "Narodni Podnik" which is (more or less) "People's Factory," the likelihood is that it is a CZ45, since only that gun and the "Z" were produced in any quantities after the Communist takeover. The "Z" however was not marked "Ceska Zbrojovka-Narodni Podnik Strakonice" as far I have been able to determine. Last edited by gyvel; January 31, 2016 at 11:08 PM.

January 31, 2016, 12:10 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	6.35mm is the European equivalent of what we call .25 ACP, and that is the ammunition it fires. We cannot tell more without a good picture, since that company made several guns of that caliber. Jim

January 31, 2016, 12:10 PM	#3
highpower3006 Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Location: Savannah TN Posts: 1,221	Not much of a description. You really need to post pictures. Kind of like: I have a car made by GM with a V8. What is it?

January 31, 2016, 09:04 PM	#4
CaptainO Junior member Join Date: February 27, 2015 Posts: 489	I believe that they ae correct. What you have is a .25 ACP pistol. Of CZ manufacture. It comes from the Czech Republic and should be of decent quality. If it is in good condition it should shoot modern .25 ACP ammunition (of USA manufacture). Generally speaking, US .25 ACP (from the major manufacturers is a bit on the anemic side). This is done because the "litigation factor" is nor to be dismissed. (Meaning that if a pistol is too frail, and it ruptures, the first thing blamed is the ammunition). If a gunsmith declares it safe to shoot, go purchase some factory .25 ACP and enjoy your handgun.

January 31, 2016, 09:57 PM	#7
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	FWIW, that particular gun is still made as the "CZ 92," but is not able to be imported into the U.S.

January 31, 2016, 10:27 PM	#8
Limnophile Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2015 Location: Issaquah, Washington Posts: 1,033	All firearms production at CZ-Strakonice was halted in 1955 and consolidared at CZ-Uhersky Brod. Thus, the OP is correct in saying the pistol is of Czechoslovak manufacture, because the Czech Republic did not exist until 1993. Being a .25 Auto of Czechoslovakian manufacture before 1956, it could be a CZ 22, a CZ 36, a CZ DUO, or a CZ 45. This article may help you determine which it is: http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/2CZ25s/2cz25s.html. CZ-UB currently makes the CZ 92, which is unavailable because it does not have enogh ATF points to be imported. CZ Custom was talking about building some here, but I never saw that they did.