223 hollowbase bullets

Fox84 · December 18, 2014, 04:16 PM

I have some 224 hollow base bullets that are not FMJ. It appears I'am looking at lead inside the 62 gr boatail bullet. It is sort of a slight hollow base bullet. The manufacturer says they are a drawn copper alloy lead core bullet. Would these be considerd plated bullets? How much reduced load?

MEATSAW · December 18, 2014, 04:44 PM

Classic full metal jacket. TMJ or total metal jacket covers the whole bullet including the base. I think its kinda become history but FMJ bullets used to be all like that. Now what we call FMJ is what used to be called TMJ. Kind of confusing.

Fox84 · December 18, 2014, 06:49 PM

I'am going to try them with 21.5 gr of Benchmark and see how they do.

Sport45 · December 19, 2014, 08:39 AM

How consistent are the bases? Below is a picture of three bullets out of the same bag of Winchester 55gr FMJ.

Accuracy wasn't phenomenal...

Fox84 · December 19, 2014, 12:15 PM

The ones I have are 62 gr from Bullet Heads in Ca. They look to be all identical. I chose 5 random pics and all weighed just under 63 grains. I'am loading 100 now and will see how they shoot tomorrow. They cost $95 for 1000.

Fox84 · December 28, 2014, 05:53 PM

These bullets are not for any type of precision shooting. Five inch groups at 50 yds. I shot 1/2 inch groups before and after with 69gr Sierra's with the same rifle on the same rest.

Metal god · December 29, 2014, 03:24 AM

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Five inch groups at 50 yds.

That is not good at all . If you can I'd send them back . I've done some AR load development at 50yds using a 5moa red dot and shot 1" groups using Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT bullets . Although I did have a few charges that grouped in the 3 to 4 inch range . Was that just one charge or was that the best you could get those bullets to group trying many different charges ??

Fox84 · December 29, 2014, 06:28 PM

I shot them with 21.5 and 22 gr of benchmark with same results. I surely need to try some other loads. My AK's shoot better with no rest and irons. I own 1000 of these 62 gr Bulletheads. I may email the company or their best load data.

lokidansk · December 31, 2014, 11:20 AM

I've had a 4 gr swing in bullet weight with those same winchester 55s, yup from mid 53gr to mid 56gr out of the same bag. I wont buy any more of them.

Metal god · December 31, 2014, 02:36 PM

OP :

I did not see what sight you are using - irons , dot , scope ??? I stopped using the irons and dot when doing load development . I only use a scope and always at 100yds now . I use a scope because it allows me to really lock in on the bulls , At 100yds because the farther you shoot the more reliable the results as far as what you and your rifle can do . I have a dedicated scope on a single piece mount I can just switch from rifle to rifle .( AR platforms ) all bolt guns have there own sights/scope .

T. O'Heir · December 31, 2014, 03:21 PM

Plated bullets use cast bullet data, but I don't think you have plated .223. Who made 'em?

Fox84 · December 31, 2014, 06:52 PM

They were shot with a bench rest and a Leupold 3x9 AR 223 scope at 50 yds.

I will shoot the rest of the 1000 in a SBR at 25 yds with a Eotech for fun.

Fox84 · December 31, 2014, 06:58 PM

The company's name is Bulletheads in Ca,

December 18, 2014, 04:16 PM	#1
Fox84 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: Chester Va Posts: 360	223 hollowbase bullets I have some 224 hollow base bullets that are not FMJ. It appears I'am looking at lead inside the 62 gr boatail bullet. It is sort of a slight hollow base bullet. The manufacturer says they are a drawn copper alloy lead core bullet. Would these be considerd plated bullets? How much reduced load? Last edited by Fox84; December 18, 2014 at 04:21 PM.

December 19, 2014, 08:39 AM	#4
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	How consistent are the bases? Below is a picture of three bullets out of the same bag of Winchester 55gr FMJ. Accuracy wasn't phenomenal... __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

December 31, 2014, 02:36 PM	#10
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 7,135	OP : I did not see what sight you are using - irons , dot , scope ??? I stopped using the irons and dot when doing load development . I only use a scope and always at 100yds now . I use a scope because it allows me to really lock in on the bulls , At 100yds because the farther you shoot the more reliable the results as far as what you and your rifle can do . I have a dedicated scope on a single piece mount I can just switch from rifle to rifle .( AR platforms ) all bolt guns have there own sights/scope . __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again . Last edited by Metal god; December 31, 2014 at 11:20 PM.

December 18, 2014, 04:44 PM	#2
MEATSAW Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Location: Burnet, TX Posts: 727	Classic full metal jacket. TMJ or total metal jacket covers the whole bullet including the base. I think its kinda become history but FMJ bullets used to be all like that. Now what we call FMJ is what used to be called TMJ. Kind of confusing.

December 18, 2014, 06:49 PM	#3
Fox84 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: Chester Va Posts: 360	I'am going to try them with 21.5 gr of Benchmark and see how they do.

December 19, 2014, 12:15 PM	#5
Fox84 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: Chester Va Posts: 360	The ones I have are 62 gr from Bullet Heads in Ca. They look to be all identical. I chose 5 random pics and all weighed just under 63 grains. I'am loading 100 now and will see how they shoot tomorrow. They cost $95 for 1000.

December 28, 2014, 05:53 PM	#6
Fox84 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: Chester Va Posts: 360	These bullets are not for any type of precision shooting. Five inch groups at 50 yds. I shot 1/2 inch groups before and after with 69gr Sierra's with the same rifle on the same rest.

December 29, 2014, 06:28 PM	#8
Fox84 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: Chester Va Posts: 360	I shot them with 21.5 and 22 gr of benchmark with same results. I surely need to try some other loads. My AK's shoot better with no rest and irons. I own 1000 of these 62 gr Bulletheads. I may email the company or their best load data.

December 31, 2014, 11:20 AM	#9
lokidansk Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2013 Location: Chesterfield VA, USA Posts: 105	I've had a 4 gr swing in bullet weight with those same winchester 55s, yup from mid 53gr to mid 56gr out of the same bag. I wont buy any more of them.

December 31, 2014, 03:21 PM	#11
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Plated bullets use cast bullet data, but I don't think you have plated .223. Who made 'em?

December 31, 2014, 06:52 PM	#12
Fox84 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: Chester Va Posts: 360	They were shot with a bench rest and a Leupold 3x9 AR 223 scope at 50 yds. I will shoot the rest of the 1000 in a SBR at 25 yds with a Eotech for fun.

December 31, 2014, 06:58 PM	#13
Fox84 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: Chester Va Posts: 360	The company's name is Bulletheads in Ca,