55 gr FMJ pulldowns from FSReloading?

erikivy · March 22, 2012, 11:46 AM

https://fsreloading.com/product.php?...at=6963&page=1

Anyone have any experience with these? The price is right at only $68 per 1000, shipped.

Jbotto · March 22, 2012, 01:52 PM

You've got my interest in them, if they aren't steel cored!

Thanks for the link!

erikivy · March 22, 2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbotto

You've got my interest in them, if they aren't steel cored!

Thanks for the link!

You're welcome.

And pardon my ignorance, but what are the disadvantages of steel cores? Are they ok for just punching paper?

Wyoredman · March 22, 2012, 02:28 PM

Quit teasing! Just checked and they are SOLD OUT! Dangit.

Jbotto · March 22, 2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by erikivy
You're welcome. And pardon my ignorance, but what are the disadvantages of steel cores? Are they ok for just punching paper?
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The only reason I don't want steel cored bullets is that the manufacturer of my steel plate targets advises against using them on plates. If I was going to be shooting at paper, or other "soft" targets I wouldn't mind them. That's all.

erikivy · March 22, 2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyoredman

Quit teasing! Just checked and they are SOLD OUT! Dangit.

Did you read the fine print? They are *supposed* to be back in stock today. Maybe they are running a little behind or just haven't updated their inventory system yet.

That quantity of -2 is the two boxes I backordered this morning.

Jbotto, thanks for the tip. I have a 5-inch steel target, but can't hit it yet, so I'll take my chances.

Wyoredman · March 22, 2012, 05:06 PM

I figured that the On Hand -2 was you. I'm watching!

Jbotto · March 22, 2012, 05:07 PM

So you're the "-2" !!!! I'm not saying all plate targets mandate not shooting steel core, but my manufacturer told me that. So, I'll believe him!

With 2000 bullets on the way, you're bound to get some practice so that plate will be a cakewalk in no time!

CrustyFN · March 22, 2012, 05:29 PM

If the steel plates are normal steel then any 223 bullet will go through. I have some steel plates that I shot with some Hornady FMJBT bullets and they chipped the plates. these plates are AR-450 hardened steel.

If the plates were AR-500 hardened they should have been fine. Not sure what the bullets with the steel penetrator would do to these plates.

beex215 · March 22, 2012, 05:38 PM

nice prices

browninghunter86 · March 22, 2012, 11:24 PM

I think I may give these a try. just plinking ammo should be fine. did anyone determine if these ARE steel core or std fmj?

erikivy · March 23, 2012, 07:39 AM

We may never know. The web page now simply says "out of stock" with no ability to backorder and no projected date of availability. I'm going to shoot them an email and see if they have any more info.

erikivy · March 23, 2012, 10:02 AM

UPDATE: FSReloading says they expect the bullets in today or Monday. If you're interested, I'd visit the page from time to time. No idea how long they will last.

medalguy · March 24, 2012, 01:29 AM

Be careful guys. These look like some pulldowns I bought several years ago. They used some kind of racheting device to pull the bullets, and there were little nick marks all the way down the side of the bullets. They shot terrible. Look at the right side of ths pic and see if that doesn't look like the same marks going up the side of the bullet.

Keep in mind you can buy new Hornady bullets from Widener's for about 2 cents more:

H2267FB HORNADY BP 22 CAL 55GR FMJBT W/C BULLETS $459.59/6000 FREE S/H USPS IN STOCK

j357 · March 24, 2012, 01:44 AM

/\+1 My thoughts exactly on the marks in the picture. In the event a new reloader doesnt know what a 'pull down' is please google. Looks like there is a reason they are showing those marks in the picture, so you know they are removed from loaded ammunition, as opposed to being 'pulled' from old stock/discontinued product. They might be good for plinking, just be aware of what you are buying.

erikivy · March 24, 2012, 08:40 AM

Thanks for the tips, guys. At my skill level, they'll probably be fine. I've only been shooting for a couple months and can barely hit the broad side of a barn at this point.

whitedogone · March 24, 2012, 11:23 PM

Shows in stock for the 250 count

CrustyFN · March 25, 2012, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Be careful guys. These look like some pulldowns I bought several years ago. They used some kind of racheting device to pull the bullets, and there were little nick marks all the way down the side of the bullets. They shot terrible. Look at the right side of ths pic and see if that doesn't look like the same marks going up the side of the bullet.

Keep in mind you can buy new Hornady bullets from Widener's for about 2 cents more:

H2267FB HORNADY BP 22 CAL 55GR FMJBT W/C BULLETS $459.59/6000 FREE S/H USPS IN STOCK

Couldn't agree more. I can shoot sub MOA with the cheap Hornady bulk bullets and the pulled are closer to 2 MOA.

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Thanks for the tips, guys. At my skill level, they'll probably be fine. I've only been shooting for a couple months and can barely hit the broad side of a barn at this point.

You might be surprised how much your skill level improves with a decent bullet.

erikivy · March 31, 2012, 12:41 PM

In case anyone is wondering, this is a side-by-side comparison of my Hornady 55 gr FMJBT (on the left)and the pulldowns from FSReloading (right). The pulldowns have a vertical line on them about .25 inches long and centered on the cannelure.

I know these aren't as good as the Hornadys, but they will give me practice in both reloading and shooting. Thanks for everyone's input.

Sport45 · March 31, 2012, 11:55 PM

They'll be fine for what you are wanting to do. The worst thing about FMJ bullets is the inconsistent base. Look at the bases of the bullets in the picture above. You'll see it doesn't matter if they are brand spanking new Hornady's or the pulled surplus bullets. You aren't getting a consistent base either way.

That's why even cheap HPBT bullets are better for accuracy.

243winxb · April 1, 2012, 10:00 AM

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I am using pulled bullets that are a "little" out of round. they run .218 to .230 I have come to the conclusion that the $54.50 per 1000 55 grain FMJBT pulled bullets from Top Brass were not all that good of a deal and are to blame.

Cheap is not always a good thing.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/36...ll_kinda_.html

lpspinner · April 1, 2012, 11:18 PM

Any feedback on performance?

erikivy · April 2, 2012, 08:59 AM

I just loaded up 200 of them last night and hope to sneak out to the range today at lunch time. I should note that I'm new to shooting, so my observations are probably not going to be worth much.

Powderman · April 2, 2012, 09:17 AM

Here are a few questions for you...and please do NOT take this as a slam...

1. Do your bullets look like the FIRST photo, or the SECOND photo, with the bullets kinda piled up?

2. IF your bullets look EXACTLY like the FIRST photo, DID YOU WEIGH THE BULLETS BEFORE YOU LOADED THEM?

3. If you did NOT weigh the bullets, did you use data for the 55 grain bullets?

If this is the case, DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, FIRE THOSE ROUNDS. THE ROUND THAT IS PICTURED IN THE FIRST PICTURE IS A 62 GRAIN BULLET. LOADING THOSE BULLETS WITH DATA FOR THE 55 GRAIN BULLET WILL RESULT IN DRASTIC OVERPRESSURE, AND WILL PROBABLY DESTROY YOUR RIFLE AND POSSIBLY CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY.

If you have loaded those long bullets with the wrong data, pull them ALL and start again.

And...forgive me if you have taken those precautions already. I noted the part where you said that you were a new shooter.

erikivy · April 2, 2012, 09:21 AM

Powderman, no I didn't weigh them. I will do so before firing any of the rounds I made last night. When I run home to pick up my gear at lunch, I'll throw one on the scale to make sure what I have.

Thanks for the heads up. No slam taken, by the way. You might have saved a hand or face with that post.

March 22, 2012, 11:46 AM	#1
erikivy Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Location: Central VA - 22903 Posts: 84	55 gr FMJ pulldowns from FSReloading? https://fsreloading.com/product.php?...at=6963&page=1 Anyone have any experience with these? The price is right at only $68 per 1000, shipped.

March 22, 2012, 02:28 PM	#4
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,373	Quit teasing! Just checked and they are SOLD OUT! Dangit. __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

March 22, 2012, 05:06 PM	#7
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,373	I figured that the On Hand -2 was you. I'm watching! __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

March 31, 2012, 11:55 PM	#20
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	They'll be fine for what you are wanting to do. The worst thing about FMJ bullets is the inconsistent base. Look at the bases of the bullets in the picture above. You'll see it doesn't matter if they are brand spanking new Hornady's or the pulled surplus bullets. You aren't getting a consistent base either way. That's why even cheap HPBT bullets are better for accuracy. __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

April 2, 2012, 09:17 AM	#24
Powderman Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 2,166	Here are a few questions for you...and please do NOT take this as a slam... 1. Do your bullets look like the FIRST photo, or the SECOND photo, with the bullets kinda piled up? 2. IF your bullets look EXACTLY like the FIRST photo, DID YOU WEIGH THE BULLETS BEFORE YOU LOADED THEM? 3. If you did NOT weigh the bullets, did you use data for the 55 grain bullets? If this is the case, DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, FIRE THOSE ROUNDS. THE ROUND THAT IS PICTURED IN THE FIRST PICTURE IS A 62 GRAIN BULLET. LOADING THOSE BULLETS WITH DATA FOR THE 55 GRAIN BULLET WILL RESULT IN DRASTIC OVERPRESSURE, AND WILL PROBABLY DESTROY YOUR RIFLE AND POSSIBLY CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY. If you have loaded those long bullets with the wrong data, pull them ALL and start again. And...forgive me if you have taken those precautions already. I noted the part where you said that you were a new shooter. __________________ Hiding in plain sight...

March 22, 2012, 01:52 PM	#2
Jbotto Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2010 Location: MN Posts: 437	You've got my interest in them, if they aren't steel cored! Thanks for the link!

March 22, 2012, 05:07 PM	#8
Jbotto Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2010 Location: MN Posts: 437	So you're the "-2" !!!! I'm not saying all plate targets mandate not shooting steel core, but my manufacturer told me that. So, I'll believe him! With 2000 bullets on the way, you're bound to get some practice so that plate will be a cakewalk in no time!

March 22, 2012, 05:29 PM	#9
CrustyFN Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 2,258	If the steel plates are normal steel then any 223 bullet will go through. I have some steel plates that I shot with some Hornady FMJBT bullets and they chipped the plates. these plates are AR-450 hardened steel. If the plates were AR-500 hardened they should have been fine. Not sure what the bullets with the steel penetrator would do to these plates.

March 22, 2012, 05:38 PM	#10
beex215 Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2010 Posts: 317	nice prices

March 22, 2012, 11:24 PM	#11
browninghunter86 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2011 Posts: 524	I think I may give these a try. just plinking ammo should be fine. did anyone determine if these ARE steel core or std fmj?

March 23, 2012, 07:39 AM	#12
erikivy Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Location: Central VA - 22903 Posts: 84	We may never know. The web page now simply says "out of stock" with no ability to backorder and no projected date of availability. I'm going to shoot them an email and see if they have any more info.

March 23, 2012, 10:02 AM	#13
erikivy Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Location: Central VA - 22903 Posts: 84	UPDATE: FSReloading says they expect the bullets in today or Monday. If you're interested, I'd visit the page from time to time. No idea how long they will last.

March 24, 2012, 01:29 AM	#14
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,033	Be careful guys. These look like some pulldowns I bought several years ago. They used some kind of racheting device to pull the bullets, and there were little nick marks all the way down the side of the bullets. They shot terrible. Look at the right side of ths pic and see if that doesn't look like the same marks going up the side of the bullet. Keep in mind you can buy new Hornady bullets from Widener's for about 2 cents more: H2267FB HORNADY BP 22 CAL 55GR FMJBT W/C BULLETS $459.59/6000 FREE S/H USPS IN STOCK

March 24, 2012, 01:44 AM	#15
j357 Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2009 Location: Liberty Twp, OH Posts: 283	/\+1 My thoughts exactly on the marks in the picture. In the event a new reloader doesnt know what a 'pull down' is please google. Looks like there is a reason they are showing those marks in the picture, so you know they are removed from loaded ammunition, as opposed to being 'pulled' from old stock/discontinued product. They might be good for plinking, just be aware of what you are buying.

March 24, 2012, 08:40 AM	#16
erikivy Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Location: Central VA - 22903 Posts: 84	Thanks for the tips, guys. At my skill level, they'll probably be fine. I've only been shooting for a couple months and can barely hit the broad side of a barn at this point.

March 24, 2012, 11:23 PM	#17
whitedogone Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2010 Posts: 100	Shows in stock for the 250 count

March 31, 2012, 12:41 PM	#19
erikivy Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Location: Central VA - 22903 Posts: 84	In case anyone is wondering, this is a side-by-side comparison of my Hornady 55 gr FMJBT (on the left)and the pulldowns from FSReloading (right). The pulldowns have a vertical line on them about .25 inches long and centered on the cannelure. I know these aren't as good as the Hornadys, but they will give me practice in both reloading and shooting. Thanks for everyone's input.

April 1, 2012, 11:18 PM	#22
lpspinner Junior Member Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 7	Any feedback on performance?

April 2, 2012, 08:59 AM	#23
erikivy Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Location: Central VA - 22903 Posts: 84	I just loaded up 200 of them last night and hope to sneak out to the range today at lunch time. I should note that I'm new to shooting, so my observations are probably not going to be worth much.

April 2, 2012, 09:21 AM	#25
erikivy Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Location: Central VA - 22903 Posts: 84	Powderman, no I didn't weigh them. I will do so before firing any of the rounds I made last night. When I run home to pick up my gear at lunch, I'll throw one on the scale to make sure what I have. Thanks for the heads up. No slam taken, by the way. You might have saved a hand or face with that post.