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Old May 3, 2010, 03:45 PM   #1
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How Many Of You Weigh New Powder Cans?

I have an old habit of weighing a can of powder as soon as I get it home. It all started several years ago when I was shooting a lot of BP and the guy I purchased from was known for his accuracy in dispensing the powder.

Here's the thing. In less than six months I've run across 2 Hodgdon powder purchases that have weighed less than 1 pound. One of them was a can of IMR 8208 XBR, and the other was a can of H335. Both of these cans should have weighed out around 17 or 18 ounces with the cap and can, but the IMR 8208 came out at 10 ounces & the H335 came out at 12 ounces.

I'm beginning to wonder if this is not a common thing and no one else is catching it because they aren't weighing their powder.

Your thoughts?
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Old May 3, 2010, 04:03 PM   #2
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I have never weighed my cans of powder. But I think I might just start.
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Old May 3, 2010, 04:04 PM   #3
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I think I may start also....

What did Hodgdon/IMR have to say say about it?
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Old May 3, 2010, 04:07 PM   #4
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Wow,
I have never weighed any whole cans. You have got me curious now. I will have to find a scale that can handle of whole can of powder.

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Old May 3, 2010, 04:27 PM   #5
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I use a postal scale to weigh mine. A standard kitchen scale will do as well.

I called them this morning to talk to them about it, and was in line for 30 minutes. I never got to speak to anyone before I had to leave, so I hung up. I plan on calling them back.

I do know that on some of their powders it states different weights on the cans. 'Clays' is an example of this. However, all of the rifle powders I have ever owned from Hodgdon say 16 ounces or 1 pound on the can. That's what the powder inside should weigh. Then you add another ounce or two for the can and cap.
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Old May 3, 2010, 05:30 PM   #6
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I weigh 8 pound jugs of powder when I get them. I'm not worried about being shorted, I just want to know the gross weight, so I can tell how much powder I have left.

Were the seals in tact on your powder canisters? Are you sure your scale is accurate?
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Old May 3, 2010, 07:41 PM   #7
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Yes, all of the powder cans were sealed, and it's a certified postal scale. I take it to the post office once a year to have it recertified by them.
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Old May 3, 2010, 07:50 PM   #8
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Never weighed a can of powder, but I always check to make sure there are 10 trays of primers in a box when I buy them.
Bought a box once and when I got home, there was only 7 trays in it.
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Old May 3, 2010, 07:53 PM   #9
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I've never thought to do it. I will now though. Thanks.
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Old May 3, 2010, 10:06 PM   #10
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I don't use either of those powders, so I have to ask if there is supposed to be 16oz in the cans? I know some of the less dense powders come in standard size jugs but hold less weight of powder. I think I have some that say 14oz on the label and the Trail Boss may be as little as 9oz.
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Old May 3, 2010, 10:17 PM   #11
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once again, I will be ahead of the power curve when I start this called reloading!

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Old May 3, 2010, 10:38 PM   #12
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I don't use either of those powders, so I have to ask if there is supposed to be 16oz in the cans?
ALmost all Hodgdon Rifle Powders are 16 oz. / 1 pound containers. As I stated earlier .... Clays is a shotgun powder I know for a fact that does not contain 16 oz. because it states it on the can.
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Old May 4, 2010, 01:33 AM   #13
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dang river that sux. let us know what they say about it. prolly just a mistake at the factory, i hope they make it right.
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Old May 4, 2010, 03:25 AM   #14
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I've never pre-weighed new powder, but jepp2's reasoning makes total sense to me. I've got some unopened containers that will have their gross weight marked on them before I break the seals.
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Old May 4, 2010, 11:01 AM   #15
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Never thought of doing it before now. Hopefully it's only a rare screw-up.
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Old May 4, 2010, 12:35 PM   #16
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prolly just a mistake at the factory
My money would be on a 5-finger discount by a customer or employee at the store. A container that much underweight would have been rejected by the QC programmed into the line at the plant.
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Old May 4, 2010, 12:39 PM   #17
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My money would be on a 5-finger discount by a customer or employee at the store. A container that much underweight would have been rejected by the QC programmed into the line at the plant.
I think that's a strong possibility. I opened a bottle of Benchmark and dumped some into an RCBS 1500. I put the factory seal back on the bottle because it pealed off completely unharmed and tightened the lid. When I opened the bottle to empty the 1500, the factory seal was FAR better stuck that it had originally been and would not come off without damaging it.

I have noticed on all my powder bottles that the factory seal can be removed and replaced without damage unless the lid is screwed down very tight.
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Old May 4, 2010, 01:04 PM   #18
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Old May 4, 2010, 01:08 PM   #19
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peetzakilla,
I suspect the "factory seal" may be more of an additional gasket than a security device on some powder containers. Like you, I've got some that are like new on well used containers.
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Old May 4, 2010, 01:48 PM   #20
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Not so tamper proof seals.

I will have to agree that the tamper proof seal isn't tamper proof. It can be removed without damage in many instances. I'm gonna be checking weight also.
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Old May 4, 2010, 08:54 PM   #21
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Not so tamper proof seals.
I agree. I have seals in some of my lids that I know I've opened and closed at least 30 times. They are still fine.
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Old May 5, 2010, 01:57 AM   #22
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Someone gave me some jugs two weeks ago, and I weighed them, because they were not full.

The original owner died.

There is a pound of H335 and two pounds of Bullseye left in there.
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Old May 6, 2010, 02:40 PM   #23
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Just bought a pound of Unique at Gander Mtn. today. Put it on my scale and it came out 1bl. 2.4 oz.

I'm weighing all the powder that I have to buy now.
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