Let me try again, Chiappa

TinyDee · March 28, 2010, 08:53 AM

The last post was "has anyone tried the Chiappa?" and nothing but a reply that said it was the wrong gun, delete. I just looked on google and it is there, the Rhino in fact which is the one I was asking about. Again, does anyone have one, shot one or know anything? It is the Chiappa Rhino a very interesting looking pistol.

stevieboy · March 28, 2010, 12:25 PM

I don't know whether it is commercially available yet. Several of the gun mags have had brief articles about it. Apparently, it was exhibited for the first time back in January at the SHOT show. It's an "upside down" revolver meaning that the bullet is fired from the bottom of the cylinder rather than the top. Supposedly, that arrangement creates a gun/shooting arm axis that is better aligned, improving accuracy. We'll see. I've seen photos of the gun. It's a bit ungainly looking but, on the other hand, Glocks sure ain't pretty and that's never stopped folks from buying them.

DAnjet500 · March 28, 2010, 12:32 PM

Never handled or shot one but here's a pic and a link.

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/55

Hoss Fly · March 28, 2010, 12:38 PM

If i dont say it i might bust so------
Thats the ugliest gun i've ever seen :barf:

Sorry but i feel better now

Casimer · March 28, 2010, 12:48 PM

I've been keeping an eye out for them, but haven't ever seen or handled one. Chiappas doesn't seem to have many distributors.

They were apparently designed by the designer of the Mateba. From what I understand, the frame is an aluminum alloy, and the cylinder and barrel are steel. But I'm not sure of whether the alloy frame is used for the models w/ longer barrels.

Also that's not a hammer spur at the rear of the frame, it's a cocking arm. The hammer is fully internal.

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg228-e.htm

Standing Wolf · March 28, 2010, 12:49 PM

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The new Chiappa Rhino has revolutionized the revolver with a patented design that tames the prehistoric characteristic that most revolvers possess. For starters, the appearance is like no other revolver you have ever seen. Typically a revolver fires from the top most chamber which is aligned with the barrel. The new Chiappa Rhino barrel is aligned with the bottom most chamber which is the key component to Rhino’s tame characteristics. Due to the lower position of the barrel, the Rhino’s appearance is abstract from any other revolver design.

The gun gives the word "ugly" a bad name, and the marketing message, "abstract from any other revolver design," is off in space somewhere.

That said™, I have a hunch firing the lowest rather than highest round in the cylinder might help reduce muzzle flip. That's not the dumbest idea I've ever heard of; the execution is another story.

The gun looks like the Mateba after somebody went to work on it with a hack saw and a Dremel tool. Maybe it's a misgenation between a Mateba and a Charter Arms revolver.

All that said™, I have a hunch this one's going to end up being a collector's item. Remember the AutoMag? Interesting ideas that flop in the market have a way of turning out to be good investments in due time.

rjrivero · March 28, 2010, 01:11 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I think the gun has a great design concept. I'd like to handle it, shoot it, and check out the trigger and firing mechanism. The idea of a low barrel is intriguing and I think there may be something to this design. I would like to try it for myself before passing judgment based on looks alone.

I have often found that some designs just grow on you. I don't mind having an ugly gun, not all of the guns in the safe are nice to look at.

David the Gnome · March 28, 2010, 01:16 PM

I'd like to have one just to have such a unique gun in my collection.

**Tom Servo** · March 28, 2010, 01:17 PM

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Thats the ugliest gun i've ever seen

Not, it's not the ugliest:

At least it's got wood grips.

...and, the webbing of my hand is directly behind the chamber during ignition.

Ouch.

FrankenMauser · March 28, 2010, 02:41 PM

I would buy one, just to have another oddball (provided the fit, finish, and feel were good). However, the MSRP is going to be just under $800 for the 2" version. ...A bit high for me...

Oh.. and the company is hoping for all models to be on the market around May 2010. You may be seeing one fairly soon. (With the 2" being the only version with an MSRP, I'd say it will be the first to hit the display cases - very soon.)

robhof · March 28, 2010, 02:51 PM

I would also wonder about the flame around the forcing cone being much closer to the trigger finger; the frame blocks the pad part, but that still leaves the rest of the finger exposed to very hot gases???

THplanes · March 28, 2010, 02:54 PM

Have you ever seen what happens to the top strap of a revolver when someone has a kaboom. I know no one here would ever have that happen. But I like my fingers where they are. This is not a new idea and there's a reason no one makes them, law suite lottery.

darkgael · March 29, 2010, 05:58 AM

Copy of my response to the other thread -

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Rhino
I'd like to get my hands on both the snubbie and the four inch barrel (looks like).
I'm wondering whether putting the barrel low and pretty much inline with the bones of the forearm (and not terribly far away from the "pointer" finger) makes the gun more "pointable". In theory and practice, it should.
The concept of the lowered barrel is not new - the Mateba comes to mind as does the Olympic style Free Pistol - both have barrels inline with the arm as does the Rhino. (the FP goes farther, of course, with wrap arounds that make the gun almost an extension of the hand).
Pete

Agree - Beauty is in the eye of....
I like its looks.
Pete

Giorgio · March 29, 2010, 08:29 AM

Please, read this

http://translate.google.it/translate...01&sl=it&tl=en

girvin02 · March 29, 2010, 09:33 AM

Shooting a .357 magnum...

No hearing protection...

No eye protection...

Smoking a cigar.

Giorgio · March 29, 2010, 09:35 AM

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Shooting a .357 magnum...

No hearing protection...

No eye protection...

Smoking a cigar.

Italians...

johnwilliamson062 · March 29, 2010, 11:14 AM

Also from the other thread

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Holy crap they are from Dayton, Ohio(at least US offices). I wonder if they have any manufacturing in Dayton. Maybe I can get a tour.

That revolver looks nice. Their 1911-22 might also be interesting as a plinker.

Giorgio told me the office in Dayton is only their import arm. Maybe I can head down there and ask a few questions.

Hoss Fly · March 29, 2010, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Shooting a .357 magnum...

No hearing protection...

No eye protection...

Smoking a cigar.

Wheres the BEER

Maromero · March 29, 2010, 11:33 AM

no hearing protection indoors!

Vilhelm · March 29, 2010, 11:36 AM

probably a glass of the local sangiovese just off camera

Giorgio · March 29, 2010, 11:36 AM

johnwilliamson062, it seems an interesting weapon. Did you read the link I put here? With forum comments below, of course.

B. Lahey · March 29, 2010, 11:40 AM

He's wearing hearing protection, they are flesh-colored earplugs.

No eye protection, though, unless they have started making protective contact lenses.

Giorgio · March 29, 2010, 11:40 AM

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probably a glass of the local sangiovese just off camera

Right!
Anyway... the guy probably isn't shooting, just posing. But I wouldn't bet.

Vilhelm · March 29, 2010, 11:48 AM

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the guy probably isn't shooting, just posing

Italian guy? I would bet just the opposite. Too macho not to pop a few caps and then give a 45 minute speech about the design and the experience, using a lot of hand gestures.

Giorgio · March 29, 2010, 01:11 PM

We are not so. It's a stereotype.
During and after WWII there were many Americans here, for years. So, now we are all tall, beautiful, blonde hair with blue eyes. Smaller and darker ones are all gone to U.S.A.

March 28, 2010, 08:53 AM	#1
TinyDee Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 351	Let me try again, Chiappa The last post was "has anyone tried the Chiappa?" and nothing but a reply that said it was the wrong gun, delete. I just looked on google and it is there, the Rhino in fact which is the one I was asking about. Again, does anyone have one, shot one or know anything? It is the Chiappa Rhino a very interesting looking pistol.

March 28, 2010, 02:41 PM	#10
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,770	I would buy one, just to have another oddball (provided the fit, finish, and feel were good). However, the MSRP is going to be just under $800 for the 2" version. ...A bit high for me... Oh.. and the company is hoping for all models to be on the market around May 2010. You may be seeing one fairly soon. (With the 2" being the only version with an MSRP, I'd say it will be the first to hit the display cases - very soon.) __________________ -Unwilling Range Officer -Unwilling Match Designer -NRL22/PRS22/PRO -Something about broccoli and carrots

March 28, 2010, 02:51 PM	#11
robhof Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2007 Posts: 712	robhof I would also wonder about the flame around the forcing cone being much closer to the trigger finger; the frame blocks the pad part, but that still leaves the rest of the finger exposed to very hot gases???

March 28, 2010, 12:25 PM	#2
stevieboy Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2008 Posts: 1,695	I don't know whether it is commercially available yet. Several of the gun mags have had brief articles about it. Apparently, it was exhibited for the first time back in January at the SHOT show. It's an "upside down" revolver meaning that the bullet is fired from the bottom of the cylinder rather than the top. Supposedly, that arrangement creates a gun/shooting arm axis that is better aligned, improving accuracy. We'll see. I've seen photos of the gun. It's a bit ungainly looking but, on the other hand, Glocks sure ain't pretty and that's never stopped folks from buying them.

March 28, 2010, 12:32 PM	#3
DAnjet500 Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2008 Posts: 144	Never handled or shot one but here's a pic and a link. http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/55

March 28, 2010, 12:38 PM	#4
Hoss Fly Junior member Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: East Texas Posts: 849	If i dont say it i might bust so------ Thats the ugliest gun i've ever seen :barf: Sorry but i feel better now

March 28, 2010, 12:48 PM	#5
Casimer Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2007 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 1,918	I've been keeping an eye out for them, but haven't ever seen or handled one. Chiappas doesn't seem to have many distributors. They were apparently designed by the designer of the Mateba. From what I understand, the frame is an aluminum alloy, and the cylinder and barrel are steel. But I'm not sure of whether the alloy frame is used for the models w/ longer barrels. Also that's not a hammer spur at the rear of the frame, it's a cocking arm. The hammer is fully internal. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg228-e.htm

March 28, 2010, 01:11 PM	#7
rjrivero Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 1,399	Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think the gun has a great design concept. I'd like to handle it, shoot it, and check out the trigger and firing mechanism. The idea of a low barrel is intriguing and I think there may be something to this design. I would like to try it for myself before passing judgment based on looks alone. I have often found that some designs just grow on you. I don't mind having an ugly gun, not all of the guns in the safe are nice to look at.

March 28, 2010, 01:16 PM	#8
David the Gnome Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,092	I'd like to have one just to have such a unique gun in my collection.

March 28, 2010, 02:54 PM	#12
THplanes Member Join Date: March 22, 2010 Posts: 58	Have you ever seen what happens to the top strap of a revolver when someone has a kaboom. I know no one here would ever have that happen. But I like my fingers where they are. This is not a new idea and there's a reason no one makes them, law suite lottery.

March 29, 2010, 08:29 AM	#14
Giorgio Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 152	Please, read this http://translate.google.it/translate...01&sl=it&tl=en

March 29, 2010, 09:33 AM	#15
girvin02 Member Join Date: November 25, 2009 Posts: 32	Shooting a .357 magnum... No hearing protection... No eye protection... Smoking a cigar.

March 29, 2010, 11:33 AM	#19
Maromero Junior member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Outside the continental U Posts: 752	no hearing protection indoors!

March 29, 2010, 11:36 AM	#20
Vilhelm Junior member Join Date: June 29, 2009 Posts: 80	probably a glass of the local sangiovese just off camera

March 29, 2010, 11:40 AM	#22
B. Lahey Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,857	He's wearing hearing protection, they are flesh-colored earplugs. No eye protection, though, unless they have started making protective contact lenses.

March 29, 2010, 01:11 PM	#25
Giorgio Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 152	We are not so. It's a stereotype. During and after WWII there were many Americans here, for years. So, now we are all tall, beautiful, blonde hair with blue eyes. Smaller and darker ones are all gone to U.S.A.