Looking for help with part ID

MacGyver · December 5, 2009, 08:16 PM

Hey all,

Here's my situation. I picked up a used Rossi .357 a couple years back. Put about 200 rounds through it with no problems, then the cylinder started to bind and would not rotate. Determined the problem to be in the rear of the cylinder where the firing pin comes through the frame. I don't know what the part is called but it's just a small metal donut looking thing. Took the pistol back to the retailer, had it sent in to their repair facility. They milled a new part and sent it back to me. Took it home, inspected it, and had the new replacement part promptly fall through the barrel after cycling the cylinder a few times. I took it back to have it sent back in, subsequently deployed to Iraq for a second tour, and upon my return they still have not fixed my revolver citing that they can't find the part needed. I've given up on them, their customer service is horrible. What I am hoping you can help me with is identifying what the part I need is called and/or where I can find get a hold of one.

PetahW · December 5, 2009, 09:10 PM

Rossi refers to it as the Hammer Nose Bushing ....

You didn't mention which model you have, but Numrich Arms list one that fits several different models @ $4.70 (part # 22970)

http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...=9245&mySort=1

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MacGyver · December 6, 2009, 03:53 AM

Thanks very much for the info. I actually don't know what model it is, it's been so long since I've actually seen it. Hopefully that part fits my revolver. Thanks again.

MacGyver · December 8, 2009, 06:59 PM

Well I heard back from them and it turns out they fixed that problem, the real issue is that the gun needs a new firing pin, which is the part they have been unable to locate. Did a cursory web search and found a few sites that list it, but they are out of stock.

PetahW · December 8, 2009, 07:30 PM

That rots - There's a TON of people out there, calling themselves gunsmiths, when in reality all they are is parts replacers.

With the offending part in hand, it shouldn't be all that hard to make/dupe a new hammer nose (firing pin) from a piece of steel flat stock.

At least you'd have a CHANCE of putting it back into service, instead of using it as a paperweight.

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James K · December 8, 2009, 09:30 PM

The trouble is that those people who really are gunsmiths like to eat regularly, so they charge for their time at about the same rate as other professionals, like plumbers. That means some of those simple little parts will cost more than a cheap gun is worth.

I have had customers plead with me to fix their father's old gun, for sentimental reasons, cost no object. When I did so, and handed the customer the bill, he told me to keep the damned old piece of junk because it wasn't worth that. What happened to "heirloom" and "sentimental reasons"? They collided with money and money won. I was out my time, of course. Wonder why I sound cynical when I talk about repairing trash?

Jim

MacGyver · December 2, 2010, 06:02 PM

Finally decided to give up on the Rossi and pick up a new and better .357. Bought a Ruger GP100 last month. Should have bought it first. Oh well, lesson learned.

roaddog28 · December 2, 2010, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Finally decided to give up on the Rossi and pick up a new and better .357. Bought a Ruger GP100 last month. Should have bought it first. Oh well, lesson learned.

Wise decision!
Howard

8shot357 · December 3, 2010, 05:12 AM

MacGyver

I replaced my Rossi 461 with a Ruger SP101 also. I still have the Rossi factory replacement, but It's only loaded with light 147g wadcutters. I don't want to break it again. It seems like a nice gun, but once bitten twice shy.

Smart move.

December 5, 2009, 08:16 PM	#1
MacGyver Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 16	Looking for help with part ID Hey all, Here's my situation. I picked up a used Rossi .357 a couple years back. Put about 200 rounds through it with no problems, then the cylinder started to bind and would not rotate. Determined the problem to be in the rear of the cylinder where the firing pin comes through the frame. I don't know what the part is called but it's just a small metal donut looking thing. Took the pistol back to the retailer, had it sent in to their repair facility. They milled a new part and sent it back to me. Took it home, inspected it, and had the new replacement part promptly fall through the barrel after cycling the cylinder a few times. I took it back to have it sent back in, subsequently deployed to Iraq for a second tour, and upon my return they still have not fixed my revolver citing that they can't find the part needed. I've given up on them, their customer service is horrible. What I am hoping you can help me with is identifying what the part I need is called and/or where I can find get a hold of one.

December 5, 2009, 09:10 PM	#2
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	Rossi refers to it as the Hammer Nose Bushing .... You didn't mention which model you have, but Numrich Arms list one that fits several different models @ $4.70 (part # 22970) http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...=9245&mySort=1 . Last edited by PetahW; December 5, 2009 at 09:16 PM.

December 2, 2010, 06:02 PM	#7
MacGyver Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 16	Thanks all Finally decided to give up on the Rossi and pick up a new and better .357. Bought a Ruger GP100 last month. Should have bought it first. Oh well, lesson learned.

December 6, 2009, 03:53 AM	#3
MacGyver Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 16	Thanks very much for the info. I actually don't know what model it is, it's been so long since I've actually seen it. Hopefully that part fits my revolver. Thanks again.

December 8, 2009, 06:59 PM	#4
MacGyver Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 16	Well I heard back from them and it turns out they fixed that problem, the real issue is that the gun needs a new firing pin, which is the part they have been unable to locate. Did a cursory web search and found a few sites that list it, but they are out of stock.

December 8, 2009, 07:30 PM	#5
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	That rots - There's a TON of people out there, calling themselves gunsmiths, when in reality all they are is parts replacers. With the offending part in hand, it shouldn't be all that hard to make/dupe a new hammer nose (firing pin) from a piece of steel flat stock. At least you'd have a CHANCE of putting it back into service, instead of using it as a paperweight. .

December 8, 2009, 09:30 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The trouble is that those people who really are gunsmiths like to eat regularly, so they charge for their time at about the same rate as other professionals, like plumbers. That means some of those simple little parts will cost more than a cheap gun is worth. I have had customers plead with me to fix their father's old gun, for sentimental reasons, cost no object. When I did so, and handed the customer the bill, he told me to keep the damned old piece of junk because it wasn't worth that. What happened to "heirloom" and "sentimental reasons"? They collided with money and money won. I was out my time, of course. Wonder why I sound cynical when I talk about repairing trash? Jim

December 3, 2010, 05:12 AM	#9
8shot357 Junior member Join Date: September 7, 2010 Posts: 1,740	MacGyver I replaced my Rossi 461 with a Ruger SP101 also. I still have the Rossi factory replacement, but It's only loaded with light 147g wadcutters. I don't want to break it again. It seems like a nice gun, but once bitten twice shy. Smart move.