Your most robust rifle

DanThaMan · July 11, 2009, 12:21 AM

I'm just interested to see what you all say.

All of you who seem to despise hypotheticals, just leave your negative two cents out.

If you found yourself in a highly unforgivable environment, extremely harsh conditions, and you needed a rifle to survive (needs to work every time), which rifle would you tell the magic genie you want from your safe?

Semi-autos are always risky, even the new ones.

Bolt actions are up for some real thought on this one, although their downfalls are apparent (capacity, rate of fire).

essohbe · July 11, 2009, 12:29 AM

I trust my AK pretty much, for it being semi-auto.

Thinking more along the lines of "sniper" then a bolt-action rifle can be more reliable under the circumstances you proposed but maybe I'd grab a breech-loader shotgun over a rifle if it was an option.

Composer_1777 · July 11, 2009, 12:29 AM

first i would pick a .308, then i would prefer my FNAR , an M1a or a bolt action kimber.

Bolts can get pretty quick; i've seen footage of crazy fast Germans shooting Kar's

dmxx99 · July 11, 2009, 12:31 AM

My M70ab2 since its the most combat worthy gun I own.

Scorch · July 11, 2009, 12:33 AM

I would take a Mauser 98 or a Ruger 77 in a medium caliber like 308. They are the toughest rifles out there. No little "springy-thingies" to break, feed every time no matter what. If I had to choose a semi, it would likely be a FAL.

nimbleVagrant · July 11, 2009, 12:44 AM

Yugo m47.

Stiofan · July 11, 2009, 12:52 AM

Marlin 1895G .45-70 lever action. Guns like it survived harsher conditions than I'm ever likely to put it through so it'd be my choice.

wyobohunter · July 11, 2009, 12:54 AM

-Tuned action
-Cleaned up trigger
-Wild West bear proof ejector
-Pachmeyer decelerator pad
-XS ghost ring sights

Lightweight, handy as hell, accurate, reliable and with my 405 gr Cast Performance bullets and a sizeable charge of H4198... Kabooom! plenty of power.

Dallas Jack · July 11, 2009, 02:41 AM

I would grab my Remington 721 in .270 Winchester.
Dallas Jack

HiBC · July 11, 2009, 02:57 AM

What is my target and circumstance?It is always a bit situational.

Purely "robust" by my definition,someplace between my Rem Rolling block and my Mex Mauser .257,with an honorable mention to my Super Blackhawk.

And,yeah,I have experience with Garands,M-14's,M1 Carbines,FAL's,and black rifles
And,if we are talking about some imagined battle,I would choose something other than a Rolling block.But,the rolling block is robust.So is my Hawken.

armoredman · July 11, 2009, 04:44 AM

VZ-58, rugged reliable rifle. If stuck with bolt, Enfield No4Mk1*, with the bandolier I keep around.

Moloch · July 11, 2009, 08:02 AM

My Mauser 98K, I could not imagine what I would have to do to break this gun-. Rock solid bolt with three locking lugs, almost no moving parts, every part is ridiculously strong and totally over-engineered. This specimen survived the eastern front with no damage, I could not imagine harder conditions for a weapon.

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I would take a Mauser 98 or a Ruger 77 in a medium caliber like 308. They are the toughest rifles out there. No little "springy-thingies" to break, feed every time no matter what

+1 If its going to be REALLY rough take a mauser-style bolt action.

A very close second would be the Mosin Nagant m44.-

sc928porsche · July 11, 2009, 08:08 AM

I will stick with my ruger m77r in 300wm. Works good close in and far away on just about anything you could run across.

MosinM38 · July 11, 2009, 08:11 AM

I'd grab dad's Remington 600 Mohawk in .223, with an ANCIENT Bushnell scope.

Always disliked Bushnell scopes, but that scope and rifle have been BEATEN TO DEATH. A constant pickup gun, it's seen hard use, the scope has had a crack in it for 3 years, and the thing saw a LOT of use when it was got.

ANd it still manages 3/4" groups

It's one gun that has never been re-sighted in except for ammo changes, and if I take it, I KNOW it will fire.

ksstargazer · July 11, 2009, 09:17 AM

Finnish M39 mosin nagant. I would pack an extra extractor for a spare part. That is the only part that I would be concerned with. I would have the same concern for any bolt rifle.

flight954 · July 11, 2009, 09:32 AM

My trusty SOCOM16

700REM · July 11, 2009, 09:39 AM

700 Remington .270

dk148 · July 11, 2009, 09:39 AM

Galil ARM15.

Doc Intrepid · July 11, 2009, 09:45 AM

Galil .308

Its more robust than I am...not risky at all.

Inspector3711 · July 11, 2009, 09:53 AM

Out of what I own, I would probably choose my Remington 700 LVSF. It's chambered in .223 so I can carry plenty of ammo and that ammo is common. It's stainless with a composite stock and it weighs about 6.5 lbs without the scope. I can easily print 3/4" groups with it even though it has a sporter weight barrel. I plan on buying an SKS eventually which would then most likely be my choice.

ISP 5353 · July 11, 2009, 09:57 AM

Rem. 700 in .308.

skydiver3346 · July 11, 2009, 09:59 AM

My older version M-14 (short Tanker version) in .308 which has NEVER jammed no matter type of ammo or dirty it was. Hard hitting, accurate and fast cycling (which is a combo that is hard to beat).

Tikirocker · July 11, 2009, 10:03 AM

The Enfield was built to chamber in dirty, muddy, wet conditions and keep ticking ... the SMLE in any variation is about as bomb proof as it comes and has proven itself over two world wars, Korea and plenty small wars in between.

So ... No1 MkIII, No4 Mk1 or No5 ... take your pick.

Tiki.

fisherman66 · July 11, 2009, 10:45 AM

My most robust rifle would be a Mauser 98.

MLeake · July 11, 2009, 10:57 AM

Some semi-autos are more rugged than others, and I like .30-06 for most of North America.

Of course, rugged = heavy...

July 11, 2009, 12:21 AM	#1
DanThaMan Junior member Join Date: February 28, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 153	Your most robust rifle I'm just interested to see what you all say. All of you who seem to despise hypotheticals, just leave your negative two cents out. If you found yourself in a highly unforgivable environment, extremely harsh conditions, and you needed a rifle to survive (needs to work every time), which rifle would you tell the magic genie you want from your safe? Semi-autos are always risky, even the new ones. Bolt actions are up for some real thought on this one, although their downfalls are apparent (capacity, rate of fire).

July 11, 2009, 12:33 AM	#5
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,249	I would take a Mauser 98 or a Ruger 77 in a medium caliber like 308. They are the toughest rifles out there. No little "springy-thingies" to break, feed every time no matter what. If I had to choose a semi, it would likely be a FAL. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

July 11, 2009, 12:54 AM	#8
wyobohunter Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2008 Location: Back in Wyoming Posts: 1,125	My Marlin 1895 GS 45-70 Gov. -Tuned action -Cleaned up trigger -Wild West bear proof ejector -Pachmeyer decelerator pad -XS ghost ring sights Lightweight, handy as hell, accurate, reliable and with my 405 gr Cast Performance bullets and a sizeable charge of H4198... Kabooom! plenty of power.

July 11, 2009, 09:59 AM	#22
skydiver3346 Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,222	Dependable semi auto: My older version M-14 (short Tanker version) in .308 which has NEVER jammed no matter type of ammo or dirty it was. Hard hitting, accurate and fast cycling (which is a combo that is hard to beat).

July 11, 2009, 10:45 AM	#24
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,712	My most robust rifle would be a Mauser 98. __________________ la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!

July 11, 2009, 12:29 AM	#2
essohbe Junior member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 817	I trust my AK pretty much, for it being semi-auto. Thinking more along the lines of "sniper" then a bolt-action rifle can be more reliable under the circumstances you proposed but maybe I'd grab a breech-loader shotgun over a rifle if it was an option.

July 11, 2009, 12:29 AM	#3
Composer_1777 Junior member Join Date: June 30, 2009 Location: New Orleans, La Posts: 242	first i would pick a .308, then i would prefer my FNAR , an M1a or a bolt action kimber. Bolts can get pretty quick; i've seen footage of crazy fast Germans shooting Kar's

July 11, 2009, 12:31 AM	#4
dmxx99 Junior member Join Date: July 22, 2007 Location: Somewhere in FL Posts: 169	My M70ab2 since its the most combat worthy gun I own.

July 11, 2009, 12:44 AM	#6
nimbleVagrant Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2008 Posts: 367	Yugo m47.

July 11, 2009, 12:52 AM	#7
Stiofan Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2006 Location: Panhandle, Idaho Posts: 714	Marlin 1895G .45-70 lever action. Guns like it survived harsher conditions than I'm ever likely to put it through so it'd be my choice.

July 11, 2009, 02:41 AM	#9
Dallas Jack Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 386	I would grab my Remington 721 in .270 Winchester. Dallas Jack

July 11, 2009, 02:57 AM	#10
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,350	What is my target and circumstance?It is always a bit situational. Purely "robust" by my definition,someplace between my Rem Rolling block and my Mex Mauser .257,with an honorable mention to my Super Blackhawk. And,yeah,I have experience with Garands,M-14's,M1 Carbines,FAL's,and black rifles And,if we are talking about some imagined battle,I would choose something other than a Rolling block.But,the rolling block is robust.So is my Hawken.

July 11, 2009, 04:44 AM	#11
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,479	VZ-58, rugged reliable rifle. If stuck with bolt, Enfield No4Mk1*, with the bandolier I keep around.

July 11, 2009, 08:08 AM	#13
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,433	I will stick with my ruger m77r in 300wm. Works good close in and far away on just about anything you could run across.

July 11, 2009, 08:11 AM	#14
MosinM38 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2007 Posts: 1,030	I'd grab dad's Remington 600 Mohawk in .223, with an ANCIENT Bushnell scope. Always disliked Bushnell scopes, but that scope and rifle have been BEATEN TO DEATH. A constant pickup gun, it's seen hard use, the scope has had a crack in it for 3 years, and the thing saw a LOT of use when it was got. ANd it still manages 3/4" groups It's one gun that has never been re-sighted in except for ammo changes, and if I take it, I KNOW it will fire.

July 11, 2009, 09:17 AM	#15
ksstargazer Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2004 Location: Flint Hills of Kansas Posts: 316	Finnish M39 mosin nagant. I would pack an extra extractor for a spare part. That is the only part that I would be concerned with. I would have the same concern for any bolt rifle.

July 11, 2009, 09:32 AM	#16
flight954 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 933	My trusty SOCOM16

July 11, 2009, 09:39 AM	#17
700REM Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Location: Tx Posts: 32	700 Remington .270

July 11, 2009, 09:39 AM	#18
dk148 Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: VA Posts: 38	Galil ARM15.

July 11, 2009, 09:45 AM	#19
Doc Intrepid Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,035	Galil .308 Its more robust than I am...not risky at all.

July 11, 2009, 09:53 AM	#20
Inspector3711 Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2008 Location: Puget Sound Washington Posts: 1,553	Out of what I own, I would probably choose my Remington 700 LVSF. It's chambered in .223 so I can carry plenty of ammo and that ammo is common. It's stainless with a composite stock and it weighs about 6.5 lbs without the scope. I can easily print 3/4" groups with it even though it has a sporter weight barrel. I plan on buying an SKS eventually which would then most likely be my choice.

July 11, 2009, 09:57 AM	#21
ISP 5353 Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 134	Rem. 700 in .308.

July 11, 2009, 10:03 AM	#23
Tikirocker Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2007 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 909	The Enfield was built to chamber in dirty, muddy, wet conditions and keep ticking ... the SMLE in any variation is about as bomb proof as it comes and has proven itself over two world wars, Korea and plenty small wars in between. So ... No1 MkIII, No4 Mk1 or No5 ... take your pick. Tiki.

July 11, 2009, 10:57 AM	#25
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	M1 Garand Some semi-autos are more rugged than others, and I like .30-06 for most of North America. Of course, rugged = heavy...