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Old January 22, 2009, 04:20 PM   #1
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New here, hi!

Just signed up, was promted by a search for info on the CVA 1861 colt navy 44. I got mine out and did a total teardown and cleanup. Feels like a new action . I was out of country for a few years and have lost my instructions. What is the proper ball size for this gun, anyone know? I got this kit when I first got married in the late 80's early 90's. Now I want to load up for my kids to shoot, I remeber the powder charge, but not the ball size, I thought it was .445.
I also have a .50 cal plains rifle kit that I assembled around the same time. It is a blast to shoot, and my son thinks it's the coolest out of my collection of different firearms. John
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Old January 22, 2009, 04:28 PM   #2
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Don't believe I've ever heard of an 1861 Colt Navy in .44 caliber. Perhaps an 1851 Navy? Or an 1861 Navy in .36 cal? Or an 1861 Army in .44?

At any rate, if it's truly a .44, there are three possibilities: .451, .454, or .457. I suggest trying the .454 first; if it leaves a full ring of lead upon loading, then stick with that.
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Old January 22, 2009, 04:39 PM   #3
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You nailed it on the head, as soon as I read the .454 listing I remebered that was it. I actually believe it was marketed as an 1860 Colt Navy .44. That kind of through me also. It looks like an 1860 Army .44 with the Navy scroll work on the cylinder. It was an unfinished kit and I finished it myself. I shaped the stock, and mixed cordovan and black shoe polish 80%/20% and rubbed it into the wood. Heated it with my heatgun, and buffed it to a high shine. Looks like a dark cherry red, and holds up great to the elements. The barrel I boiled until it would dry immediately when removed from the water and used a cold blue paste for about 5-7 coats. It is a deep blue/black with a polished shine. It is fun to shoot, and I only shoot moderate loads (25-28 grns) pyrodex. I have heard of people stretching the brass frames with hot loads, although I never have seen this personally.
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Old January 22, 2009, 04:42 PM   #4
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The 1860 Army has a naval scene on the cylinder.
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Old January 22, 2009, 04:57 PM   #5
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That could be, most of the "navy" revolvers I have seen have octagon barrels, but this one is round.
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Old January 22, 2009, 06:11 PM   #6
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My Scouts would agree with your son. They enjoy firing my Kentucky. But I am waiting for the time when they can come out to shoot the double barrel BP shotgun. Something tells me their hearts will change.

Enjoy and we are glad to add you to out ranks.
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Old January 22, 2009, 07:42 PM   #7
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Shoot a 1860 maself

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Old January 23, 2009, 04:25 AM   #8
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Hoss, you better be glad I'm not going to Big Bear or I'd steal those grips.
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Old January 23, 2009, 07:43 AM   #9
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If ya decide to go be sure'in drop off that 1860 of urin here
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Old January 23, 2009, 09:09 AM   #10
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I enjoy BP for several reasons, I like the historical aspect, I enjoy the large calibres, I love the big whit cloud that hangs in the air on a still morning, and who can deny the draw of the boom only created by the pyrotechnic discharge of BP!
I love the fact that I can shoot big bore for .22 $$$!
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Old January 23, 2009, 09:26 AM   #11
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Whacha want this old hunka junk for?

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Old January 23, 2009, 06:54 PM   #12
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I needs it
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Old January 24, 2009, 03:34 AM   #13
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I'll take Thumper for it.
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Old January 24, 2009, 10:08 AM   #14
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I'll take Thumper for it. 
Naw- i'd feel guilty screwin ya over
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Old January 24, 2009, 12:59 PM   #15
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Now that's funny.
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Old January 30, 2009, 09:39 AM   #16
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Just got some pics.
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Old January 30, 2009, 11:22 PM   #17
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Old January 31, 2009, 05:03 AM   #18
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Welcome and looks like you picked the right forum for some purdy nice Colt 1860 Army Revs.
Here's my favored 1860 it has been reborn to be wild for another 49 years.
1960 Belgium Centaure SN767

Here's a pair of them SN925 &SN767

Pietta 1861 Colt Navy .36

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Old January 31, 2009, 09:47 AM   #19
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Love the '60's

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Old January 31, 2009, 11:28 AM   #20
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Hey SG, looks like Wayne did a good job 767. I need to get a better bolt spring for mine, it's pretty weak.
You should think about doing a rust blue on that thing, I got lucky on mine, it's finish is still about 98% I just wish the springs had a little more tension in them. The hand spring is weak and the cylinder rattles a bit. I was going to put a ruger plunger in it but thought against modding it. I'll save that for the Italians.
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Old January 31, 2009, 07:24 PM   #21
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Hey SG, your 3rd pistol down in the pics
reminds me of that pistol in josey wales
when the movie first got under way.
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Old January 31, 2009, 09:33 PM   #22
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Thanks for the welcome, you all have some nice cap 'n' ball pistols there. I always wanted to get a steel framed pistol.
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