TC white mountain carbine

mrbig381 · November 18, 2008, 01:49 PM

Hi all, I'm new to black powder rifles and was wondering what kind of loads does everyone use in theirs. I just picked up this carbine for $100 and it has never been fired. Been searching but info is limited. If I remove the wedge does it come apart like my 1851 colt does? Does it have a breech plug to aid in cleaning? any info will be appreciated.

Hoss Fly · November 18, 2008, 08:49 PM

Still have one ( sold but not shipped )
Yes, just remove the wedge & the barrel comes rite off

Very cool little rifles & loads of fun to shoot - I just got a Lymans Great Plans Rifle in 54cal so i sold the TC to a freind for a Christmas present for his son

I only shoot RB's so i can't give ya any loads cause the twist in them really are made fer the modern boolits 'n sabots & such

Nuther (main) reason i got the GPR with the 32" barrell with a 1:60 twist

Have fun----

Hawg · November 18, 2008, 09:45 PM

I think the twist on those is 1:28 or therabouts. Too fast for round balls. Maxi Balls, Lee Reals or any of the other conicals with 80-90 grs. of powder should work pretty good. May have to play with powder charges to get it to shoot it's best.

mykeal · November 18, 2008, 10:06 PM

The twist on my .54 WMC is 1 in 48", a compromise that shoots either prbs or conicals. However, with the 21" barrel you can't take advantage of the conical's range superiority, so it's really a prb gun.

I shoot 80 gr ffg real black, .530 rb with 0.018" patch.

The gun has a hooked breach and the barrel is easily removed for cleaning once the wedge is removed - just lift from the muzzle end. The breach plug is not removable.

jbrown · November 18, 2008, 11:30 PM

My white mountain carbine shot very well with patched rb using 30 gr of fffg goex blackpowder .
I took my first 2 deer with blackpowder with it,using 80 grains of fffg and a hornandy xtp 240 gr 44cal sabot.Powerful enough for woods hunting and not alot of recoil.If I remember correctly,it chrono'ed about 1500 fps,but it has been a few years.

mrbig381 · November 19, 2008, 05:06 AM

Thanks guys for all the quick responses.

Hawg · November 19, 2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

The twist on my .54 WMC is 1 in 48",

You learn something every day.

When Hoss got his I did some checking around and I thought all the WMC's were fast twist.

mykeal · November 19, 2008, 09:09 AM

When I can free up some time to get back into the workshop I'll double check that, but I usually test the twist a number of times to be sure of my result. I recall being a bit surprised at 1 in 48 as I thought it was supposed to be faster. Maybe I didn't retest this one.

Hoss Fly · November 19, 2008, 07:27 PM

Mine was I THINK 1 in 28

I know it was faster but can't check it now--its gone

I'll just have to make do with this'un ------

jbrown · November 19, 2008, 09:17 PM

I was thinking mine was 1-28 or 1-38 twist.

November 18, 2008, 01:49 PM	#1
mrbig381 Junior Member Join Date: November 18, 2008 Location: southern MD Posts: 10	TC white mountain carbine Hi all, I'm new to black powder rifles and was wondering what kind of loads does everyone use in theirs. I just picked up this carbine for $100 and it has never been fired. Been searching but info is limited. If I remove the wedge does it come apart like my 1851 colt does? Does it have a breech plug to aid in cleaning? any info will be appreciated.

November 19, 2008, 07:27 PM	#9
Hoss Fly Junior member Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: East Texas Posts: 849	Mine was I THINK 1 in 28 I know it was faster but can't check it now--its gone I'll just have to make do with this'un ------ Last edited by Hoss Fly; November 19, 2008 at 07:29 PM. Reason: fergot pics

November 18, 2008, 08:49 PM	#2
Hoss Fly Junior member Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: East Texas Posts: 849	Still have one ( sold but not shipped ) Yes, just remove the wedge & the barrel comes rite off Very cool little rifles & loads of fun to shoot - I just got a Lymans Great Plans Rifle in 54cal so i sold the TC to a freind for a Christmas present for his son I only shoot RB's so i can't give ya any loads cause the twist in them really are made fer the modern boolits 'n sabots & such Nuther (main) reason i got the GPR with the 32" barrell with a 1:60 twist Have fun----

November 18, 2008, 09:45 PM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,378	I think the twist on those is 1:28 or therabouts. Too fast for round balls. Maxi Balls, Lee Reals or any of the other conicals with 80-90 grs. of powder should work pretty good. May have to play with powder charges to get it to shoot it's best.

November 18, 2008, 10:06 PM	#4
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	The twist on my .54 WMC is 1 in 48", a compromise that shoots either prbs or conicals. However, with the 21" barrel you can't take advantage of the conical's range superiority, so it's really a prb gun. I shoot 80 gr ffg real black, .530 rb with 0.018" patch. The gun has a hooked breach and the barrel is easily removed for cleaning once the wedge is removed - just lift from the muzzle end. The breach plug is not removable.

November 18, 2008, 11:30 PM	#5
jbrown Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2006 Location: minnesota Posts: 215	My white mountain carbine shot very well with patched rb using 30 gr of fffg goex blackpowder . I took my first 2 deer with blackpowder with it,using 80 grains of fffg and a hornandy xtp 240 gr 44cal sabot.Powerful enough for woods hunting and not alot of recoil.If I remember correctly,it chrono'ed about 1500 fps,but it has been a few years.

November 19, 2008, 05:06 AM	#6
mrbig381 Junior Member Join Date: November 18, 2008 Location: southern MD Posts: 10	Thanks guys for all the quick responses.

November 19, 2008, 09:09 AM	#8
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	When I can free up some time to get back into the workshop I'll double check that, but I usually test the twist a number of times to be sure of my result. I recall being a bit surprised at 1 in 48 as I thought it was supposed to be faster. Maybe I didn't retest this one.

November 19, 2008, 09:17 PM	#10
jbrown Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2006 Location: minnesota Posts: 215	I was thinking mine was 1-28 or 1-38 twist.