45 ACP reloads

Donald Clifton · December 3, 2007, 01:25 PM

I have went from 200gr rn to 185 swc, I'm using 231 powder and I'm having problems with extraction. I have tried 5gr and 5.5 gr of 231 and still have the problem. The data sheet shows 5.0 for starting loads and 5.9 for max load. I have gone to the lighter spring and still have the same problem. I'm shooting a S&W 945-1.
Please help

Don

RickB · December 3, 2007, 03:39 PM

What sort of extraction problems are you having?

Donald Clifton · December 3, 2007, 04:08 PM

I get the stove pipe effect. case caught in between slide and barrel. I don't have this problem with 200 gr rn.
Thanks
Don

**Mal H** · December 3, 2007, 06:06 PM

What type of 185 gr SWC are you using? Lead, jacketed, plated?

My manuals show 5.5 gr as a good starting point for WW231. Depending on the type of bullet, you can go higher than the 5.9 max you indicated.

Stove piping, in general, is caused by insufficient recoil for the installed spring. There are two ways to help your problem: use more powder as I mentioned above or install a slightly weaker recoil spring. Usually the powder method is more desirable.

Try 5.7 grains and keep upping it by .1 grains until you either fix the problem or reach a max pressure range. Personally, I would go no higher than 7.0 grains if using jacketed bullets and 6.5 grains if using lead or plated.

Donald Clifton · December 3, 2007, 07:40 PM

I have the light spring in now. I'm using rainner 185gr swc. I have loaded some at 5.9gr 231 and will try at range tomorrow.
Thanks for the help
Don

Donald Clifton · December 4, 2007, 01:42 PM

after reloading at 5.9gr 231 my problem is gone.
Thanks for all everyones help
Don

joneb · December 6, 2007, 01:44 AM

I load Nosler 185gr JHP with 6.2-6.5 of W-231 at 1.210" COAL, in my 1911 with VG results. Start low and work up.

December 3, 2007, 01:25 PM	#1
Donald Clifton Member Join Date: November 14, 2007 Location: Port Orange, Fl Posts: 28	45 ACP reloads I have went from 200gr rn to 185 swc, I'm using 231 powder and I'm having problems with extraction. I have tried 5gr and 5.5 gr of 231 and still have the problem. The data sheet shows 5.0 for starting loads and 5.9 for max load. I have gone to the lighter spring and still have the same problem. I'm shooting a S&W 945-1. Please help Don

December 3, 2007, 04:08 PM	#3
Donald Clifton Member Join Date: November 14, 2007 Location: Port Orange, Fl Posts: 28	45 ACP reloads I get the stove pipe effect. case caught in between slide and barrel. I don't have this problem with 200 gr rn. Thanks Don

December 3, 2007, 07:40 PM	#5
Donald Clifton Member Join Date: November 14, 2007 Location: Port Orange, Fl Posts: 28	45 ACP reloads I have the light spring in now. I'm using rainner 185gr swc. I have loaded some at 5.9gr 231 and will try at range tomorrow. Thanks for the help Don

December 4, 2007, 01:42 PM	#6
Donald Clifton Member Join Date: November 14, 2007 Location: Port Orange, Fl Posts: 28	45 ACP reloads after reloading at 5.9gr 231 my problem is gone. Thanks for all everyones help Don

December 3, 2007, 03:39 PM	#2
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,559	What sort of extraction problems are you having?

December 3, 2007, 06:06 PM	#4
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 17,066	What type of 185 gr SWC are you using? Lead, jacketed, plated? My manuals show 5.5 gr as a good starting point for WW231. Depending on the type of bullet, you can go higher than the 5.9 max you indicated. Stove piping, in general, is caused by insufficient recoil for the installed spring. There are two ways to help your problem: use more powder as I mentioned above or install a slightly weaker recoil spring. Usually the powder method is more desirable. Try 5.7 grains and keep upping it by .1 grains until you either fix the problem or reach a max pressure range. Personally, I would go no higher than 7.0 grains if using jacketed bullets and 6.5 grains if using lead or plated.

December 6, 2007, 01:44 AM	#7
joneb Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Location: Central , OR Posts: 1,888	I load Nosler 185gr JHP with 6.2-6.5 of W-231 at 1.210" COAL, in my 1911 with VG results. Start low and work up.