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Old October 19, 2007, 02:21 PM   #1
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the best 9mm brass?

which company makes the best 9mm brass?? my loads are going to be fairly warm.should I get the +p brass.what do you guys use for hot 9mm loads??I have some starline brass should I just stick with it?its for my glock17L.
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Old October 19, 2007, 03:04 PM   #2
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I prefer Remington +P brass over the others. You'll know the difference as soon as you run it thru the carbide die.
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Old October 19, 2007, 06:27 PM   #3
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Best Brass??

For me the best 9mm brass is the FREE brass, that I gather at the range.
Most of it is Win White Box brass.
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Old October 19, 2007, 06:45 PM   #4
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oh! heck yea!! I agree with( free brass!)
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Old October 19, 2007, 07:23 PM   #5
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9x19 Brass

Winchester is my prefered brand, as well as Remington.
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Old October 19, 2007, 08:59 PM   #6
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Starline is as good as any handgun brass made today. The others may have a better known name, but not a better product. Try it.
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Old October 19, 2007, 09:24 PM   #7
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About 25 years ago I bought 1,000 pieces of IVI (Quebec Canada mfr'd) military brass. Cut out the crimps and reloaded them uncounted times since then. I use them for all my HOT loads which are often well over published max loads. They don't bulge, they don't split, the headstamps are still visible. My best estimate is at least 15 and maybe as many as 20 reloads.

Now those were some strong cases.

If you want some real tough cases look for some Israeli Army Subgun brass. It is loaded to +P+ pressures (or more according to some). That brass should beat the commercial brass that was designed for SAAMI pressures.
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Old October 19, 2007, 09:32 PM   #8
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A bit off topic I have some TZZ .45 brass headstamp 86 which is from the Israeli Army. Best brass I have ever had, could not tell you how many times it has been reloaded. The brass has a reddish color to it.
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Old October 19, 2007, 09:33 PM   #9
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Starline is my preferred brass so far. You can buy it direct too if you don't need nickel plated and it is priced well.


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Old October 20, 2007, 09:18 AM   #10
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The best brass for me is the range brass I get for free, one of the benefits of being a RO at a public range. Never noticed any difference in 9mm brass among the commercial American makers, with exceptions below.

If you have to buy brass, Starline is highly recommended. I buy Starline in 454 Cas, 45 Schofield and 32 H&R.

After at least 100,000 9mm reloads, I developed some preferences. I sort the range brass and throw out:

A-Merc - garbage, everything is wrong with it.
MAL (Malaysian Military) - flash hole is undersized
S&B - wrong primer pocket size
PPU (Yugo Prvi Partisan) - wrong primer pocket size
FC - Federal brass made for the military - tight crimp on the primer, needs extra work. Not worth it.

In addition to American commercial brass, I keep:
Israeli Military marked IMI or TZZ, excellent brass
DM44 - World War II military brass, I am not sure who made it. I was given several thousand empties many years ago, they have been excellent.
European commercial brass from Norma and Geco.
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PMP from South Africa, good stuff. After that, Winchester.
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Old October 20, 2007, 07:15 PM   #12
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you can tell from the pressure required to resize in a single stage press which brass is tougher. downside is the necks will split sooner than softer stuff but I seem to get better groups with the tough stuff. PMP, Hornady, Remington, IMI, Starline are my favs.
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Old October 23, 2007, 04:56 AM   #13
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I use Remington just because I have some of it. If I were to buy pistol brass tomorrow I would buy Starline.
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