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Old April 26, 2006, 07:06 PM   #1
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remington gamemaster 760 in 270 win

I recently dug this pump action rifle out of my grandma's basement. I'm not familiar with the rifle or the cartridge. It appears to be in great shape; my question is should I build this into a serious hunting rifle or should I just let it be opting to concentrate on my other rifles?
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Old April 26, 2006, 07:51 PM   #2
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You are lucky, it is a good cal and a good gun.

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I would get some bullets and shoot it. It is a nice combo.

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Old April 26, 2006, 07:56 PM   #3
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270 win

The 270 Win is a great cartridge very flat shooting and easily capable of taking deer, elk, caribou. Also easy on kick.

can't say anything about the rifle.

What do you mean by build it into ?
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Old April 26, 2006, 07:58 PM   #4
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cool

If i understand it correctly 270 win is a necked down 30-06. what game would this round be appropriate for?
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Old April 26, 2006, 08:01 PM   #5
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sorry, did'nt really read the post

I mean mounting optics and investing the time. How does it compare to a 30-06?
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Old April 26, 2006, 08:01 PM   #6
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you can find out more at including when it was produced etc...

http://www.remington.com/library/his.../model_760.asp
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Old April 26, 2006, 08:10 PM   #7
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thank you for the info.
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Old April 27, 2006, 04:19 PM   #8
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Elk, Deer, Caribou can all easily be taken with a .270 probably anything in N or S america except Brown and Polar Bear, American Bison.
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Old April 27, 2006, 06:07 PM   #9
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The 760 is a good rifle, probably better than the 742 semi-auto. I think the barrel is free-floating on the pump, but not on the 742 "cousin".

The .270 Win. is a beautiful deer round that has better trajectory than a .30-06, but needs to be handloaded for best performance. Most of the standard factory loadings are mild, but that's because of the older semi-autos that are still around. They are still very potent, however.

The new reduced loads by Remington would be good for target practice or close range hunting, providing about the same energy as a .30-30.

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Old April 27, 2006, 07:00 PM   #10
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I recently dug this pump action rifle out of my grandma's basement. I'm not familiar with the rifle or the cartridge. It appears to be in great shape; my question is should I build this into a serious hunting rifle or should I just let it be opting to concentrate on my other rifles?
The 760 is a serious hunting rifle. The .270 is, well, its hard to believe you are not familar with the cartridge. This combo will take almost anything in North America, and do it in style.
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Old April 27, 2006, 08:41 PM   #11
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The .270 was born serious.

That Rem is a shoot and clean rifle. A good set of rings and glass and your ready to go. Black hills ammo might be worth a try IMO.
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Old April 27, 2006, 10:21 PM   #12
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mannlicher, please excuse my ignorance

The majority of my firearms expierience centers around millitary rounds. I am my unit's resident gun nut but unfortunatly I have not been out hunting many times. I will be moving back to NM soon and I want to get serious about the sport and would like to incorparate the rifles I already own (too many to list here) and since I have no direct expierience with this round I am seeking oppinions regarding its capabillities. Any advice is helpful, thank you.
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Old April 27, 2006, 10:25 PM   #13
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Time honored round. It didn't get that way from being lame. I've seen many deer killed with it and saw nothing lacking. The 760, you might find it as accurate as a typical bolt gun with that barrel weight. nice gun
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Old April 27, 2006, 11:10 PM   #14
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If i understand it correctly 270 win is a necked down 30-06. what game would this round be appropriate for?
That's correct... it is good for large deer and smaller game...
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You are lucky, it is a good cal and a good gun.
This is true... BUT the gun is primarily a short to medium range rifle...

And the cartridge is primarily for medium to long range.

A poor marriage...

The same rifle in a .30-06 or a .308 (30-06 short) would be an excellent bush gun that would still be very effective out to about 350 yards or so...

However, it will work very well for deer and similar game... and you will be pleased with the moderate recoil.
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Old April 28, 2006, 10:02 AM   #15
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This is true... BUT the gun is primarily a short to medium range rifle...

And the cartridge is primarily for medium to long range.

A poor marriage...
Disagree, my 7600's all shot around moa with reloads. As good or better than most bolt guns. So how does that exclude it from being used in the same manner as a bolt gun?
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Old April 28, 2006, 01:56 PM   #16
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I'm wondering if your 760 is an older version (fifties era) or a "newer" model. If it's the earlier rifle it likely has a lower drop on the stock and is configured more for iron sights than for scopes. You can use a scope on the older models but the stock to cheek "weld" won't be as comfortable or as efficient.
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Old April 28, 2006, 02:43 PM   #17
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Id go for the peep rear with a big orfice.

Fast handling and a killer in my hands. I have one in an 06.

The 270 with hand loading is a great round. Even now they make some factory stuff that is very good.

Ten round mags are good also, but if hunting. I would stay with the factory Mag. Be a great gun around the house, for dispatching anything.

You have found a jewel in the bottom of the bag, cherish it, and remember where you got it.
Keep it always clean and thank your lucky stars you have it.
I would put it on my list to never let go.

Go to the range and sight it in at 50 yds 6 oclock hold and punching about 2 inchs high. Shoot there until well ventilated and a good group.

With out moving the sights see were it hits at 100 and 200 yds. shoot a few hundred rounds out of it(not all the same day ) and you won't be sorry you did. l'd learn to shoot from the hip like a shot gun. rack um, and load it and shoot.

130 grain or 125 or 150 good shooter. You can get it heavier but why? Depends on the game you are after.

Make sure you have a recoil pad on it. If not try one of the slip on's if you are a bigger guy like me you will need the extra distance for fast shooting. If not you might have to have a good recoil pad put on by someone qualified.

Fit it like you would a shotgun to you. Not like a rifle. Important!
This is a pump rifle/shotgun application and for good iron sights (peep big hole in it) what I am saying, it is the best for this particular gun.

Most peeps have a smaller one you can screw into it (rear) for other more accurate work. But a four inch group at 200yds is all you need and this gun will do it.

Believe me I know what I am talking about. After all this practice and not moving the sight. Go to the 300yd line and see what it can do, that is what the 270 is all about. Unless you experience this yourself you would not believe. So do it.

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Old April 28, 2006, 03:24 PM   #18
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760 pump

The Remington 760 pump is a good rifle, not a great one. Pump rifles have never sold well in this country, odd, when you consider pump shotguns sell better than just about anything else.

You say rifle, this would have a 22" barrel in .270 Winchester. Remington also made a carbine with an 18.5" barrel, most of those were in .30-06 or .308.

As far as the rifle being short to medium range, that depends on how good the shooter is. Be advised, that these guns are made for hunting. As they heat up, groups often get large(er), and point of impact can shift. It is not a bolt action, and should not be expected to perform like one. But the rifle will deliver all the accuracy you need to take deer size game at any range you are good enough to hit. Likely even better.

The downside to the .270 is there are not a great variety of factory loads. 130gr (deer) and 150gr (everything heavier) are all one usually finds.

Jack O'Conner, a well respected writer for Field and Stream for decades was in love with the .270, and considered it the best round for virtually everything short of dangerous game.

the downside of your Model 760 is 1) trigger pull may not be as good as you want (individual preference), stock fit, and the fact that, if you are a handloader, the rifle is not up to the absolute top end loads that a bolt gun can handle. This is not a question of strength, but of extraction (camming) power, inherent in the designs of the rifles. Keep the chamber clean, don't go heavier than factory ammunition (not needed anyway), and everything will be fine.

The Model 760 was generally available in two grades, ADL and BDL. BDLs were the "deluxe" and had white line spacers, contrasting grip cap (forend too, I think), and if I remember right, basketweave checkering.

Peep sight, scope, or just the factory open sight, is up to you, and the kind of shooting you expect to do.

Good luck with your heirloom.
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Old April 28, 2006, 06:10 PM   #19
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760 is a great old timer, and .270 will be very adequate for North American game. With a good scope you can get some distance shots. I've made 230yd+ 1shot stops on deer and antelope. Important to get low rings for a good line up on the barrel. I have the steel butt pad on my 30-06 and recoil is not noticeable. But mostly its a short to medium range gun where most shots on game are made anyways. Don't let it go. Shoot that thang!
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Old April 28, 2006, 06:33 PM   #20
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a serious hunting rifle
depends on if your a serious hunter or not.
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Old April 28, 2006, 07:12 PM   #21
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44 AMP: Although O'Conner wrote a few articles for Field & Stream, for decades he was the firearms editor for Outdoor Life.
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Old April 28, 2006, 08:06 PM   #22
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Huntress an 06 with a steel butt plate?

You are wearing some protection I would have to say.
The 760 is not like a semi auto it is like a bolt and a light one to boot.
They kick. The design of the shot gun is very prevelent in this gun it was taken from a shotgun design, so that is why.

The 270 is not going to kick as much because of the lighter rounds. But they Kick. Not noticable. OK, So much for your input. http://www.flurl.com/featured/Recoil_25279.html

I was shooting at a range a while back and there were a couple of guys who are great shooter's and like the 6.5 Swede for their shooting due to the lack of recoil.

The guy said to me is that an 06 I said? Yea.
He said they just kick to hard to be fun. I agreed but with the recoil pad and the shooting jacket it was a help. You shoot it much, the 760 because of it being light, it kicks. the 9 pound garand Kicks and it is a semiauto.
One of the reasons people go to the smaller calibers/loads and bigger recoil pads.

Sorry Huntress, I just had to mention my thoughts on your thought.
Off hand it is not so bad but lock your self up in a prone or on a benchrest and it will wear you down.

Now for more rants.

I had a 5 pound or there abouts 06. It hurt, sold it for a heavier one, nice bull barrel. Sold it for a 308 don't have it either. I am tired of bolts. When I go into a gun shop any more it is bolts or semi autos but I do think he has a gem of a gun, and anyone saying different is Ignorant in my opinion.

Geez.

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Old April 28, 2006, 08:10 PM   #23
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You don't see many .270 Win. Pumps or Semis because those actions are primarily woods guns where fast second shots are sometimes needed. The .270 is a long-distance rifleman's dream. Flat shooting, minimal recoil, great retained velocity, devastating expansion with the 130 grain bullets.

That doesn't mean that the caliber is slouch in the woods. It's not. It can handle itself pretty well, but not quite as well as the .30-06, due to the heavier bullet weights available.

Reloads to be used in a pump should fit a bit loose, so they don't cause the rifle to fail to lock up. If it failed to lock up, the loaded round may not extract well. Not a good thing with a deer. A very bad thing with more dangerous game.

Factory ammo is the way to go when hunting with a pump rifle.

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This is not a question of strength, but of extraction (camming) power, inherent in the designs of the rifles
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Reloads to be used in a pump should fit a bit loose, so they don't cause the rifle to fail to lock up. If it failed to lock up, the loaded round may not extract well. Not a good thing with a deer. A very bad thing with more dangerous game.
The very reason Remington screwed up the 280. They reduced the pressure to alleviate extraction problems. A 280 loaded to bolt pressures is one heck of a round.


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Disagree, but you do need to use a small base die set and stay off high pressure loads.
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The .280 Rem (7mm Express) is probably the best combination of trajectory and energy in a standard cartridge, when handloaded. Unfortunately, the .270 Win and 30-06 were more established with the hunting fraternity and the factory loading just didn't offer enough pizzaz to steal their thunder.

The 7mm Rem Mag attracted hunters who wanted a bit more power, even though there isn't much difference between the .280 Rem and the magnum when it's handloaded for bolt guns.

A friend of mine, a handloader who shot deer at fairly long range, saw the .280 Rem as a good round in the 70s. He used it for about 4 years and when I asked him about it a few years later, he'd switched to the 7mm Mag. and never looked back.

I stuck with the .30-06 for many years, until I found the need to use a lighter round for turkey shoots, but still a deer caliber. I tried the .270 Win liked it so much with both the 90 grain Sierra HP and 130 grain Nosler loads that I gave the 30-06 to my son. Deer can't seem to tell the difference between them.

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