need to find firing pin for

Avizpls · July 16, 2005, 09:37 PM

Hello,

I need some help finding a firing pin for a WesternField M854 22LR rifle. Montgomery Ward is also a marking on it.

I had broken one some years ago, machined a new one myself from tool steel, and broke it in short while.

Anyone that can help?

Thanks

Oh, and PS: if you know where i can get the adjuster that goes under the rear sight, that would be good too.

Thanks

CaptainRazor · July 16, 2005, 09:45 PM

First I would try here:
Gun Parts Corp

After that, I really don't know what to tell you, other than you'll have to fashion your own again.

Avizpls · July 16, 2005, 10:05 PM

The problem is, I no longer have a template

the tip of this one broke off. and even if i CAN make one again, out of what? Tool Steel obviously didnt work out all that well

Dfariswheel · July 17, 2005, 12:07 AM

My cross references don't show a Western Field Model 853.

However, most of these rifles were actually made by Mossberg, and even though there are MANY different model numbers, most are basically the same general gun.

I do show the Western Field Models 850 855 as being the Mossberg 853.

What I'd suggest is contacting Gun Parts Corporation with all the markings and the serial numbers that you can find on the rifle.

I'm sure Gun Parts can supply a new firing pin, and a new rear sight elevator will be no problem at all.

If you go to the Gun Parts web site at look at the Mossberg 853, possibly you can ID it as your rifle.

mtnboomer · July 17, 2005, 01:22 AM

My reference shows the WF 850 & 853 as the Mossberg 353 and the WF852 as the Mossberg 341.

mete · July 17, 2005, 07:51 AM

If the one you made broke, I would assume it didn't have the right dimensions or it was not heat treated properly.Tool steel [drill rod] would be the proper choice of material.

Avizpls · July 17, 2005, 06:38 PM

The firing pin i needs APPEARS to be the same as the one for the mossberg 353
http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...uctSKU=429870B

The difference i see between that one and my gun is that mine has fifteen rounds dropped into the stock, and then pushed forward by a rod of sorts. Im sure you know what i mean.

Thanks tho. I am going to order this as i am pretty sure its what i need.

Onebgg · July 19, 2007, 07:06 PM

Was the part the one you needed? I have a need of the same firing pin for the exact same rifle?

James K · July 19, 2007, 09:54 PM

The Gun Parts Corp. catalog (which I recommend you get) has a note on those Mossberg 353 firing pins, indicating that there are two very similar ones. They are flat, so not easily made out of drill rod, but sawing one out of flat tool steel should work OK, just don't harden it too much. GPC shows them at about $12 so it might not be worth it to make one. Whether you make or buy, pay attention to fitting the front part of the firing pin (the firing pin stop) so that the firing pin doesn't contact the breech face if the gun is dry fired.

Jim

Onebgg · July 20, 2007, 02:40 PM

Thank You, of my collection of rifles the M854 is one of my favorite plinker's. If you miss with this rifle, YOU missed! A friend of mine is making one for now, but I'll order one too, just in case.

Gary

George R · July 21, 2007, 01:54 PM

For you Mossberg owners, I'd recommend you go to www.havlinsales.com. This is a H/W team who know more about Mossbergs than OF himself. They also run the Mossberg Collectors Assn. A fp from them is more $ ($18), but everything Mossberg they sell will fit.

July 16, 2005, 09:37 PM	#1
Avizpls Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2004 Posts: 774	need to find firing pin for Hello, I need some help finding a firing pin for a WesternField M854 22LR rifle. Montgomery Ward is also a marking on it. I had broken one some years ago, machined a new one myself from tool steel, and broke it in short while. Anyone that can help? Thanks Oh, and PS: if you know where i can get the adjuster that goes under the rear sight, that would be good too. Thanks

July 19, 2007, 07:06 PM	#8
Onebgg Junior Member Join Date: July 19, 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2	Montgomery Ward M854 Was the part the one you needed? I have a need of the same firing pin for the exact same rifle?

July 20, 2007, 02:40 PM	#10
Onebgg Junior Member Join Date: July 19, 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2	Montgomey Ward M854 Thank You, of my collection of rifles the M854 is one of my favorite plinker's. If you miss with this rifle, YOU missed! A friend of mine is making one for now, but I'll order one too, just in case. Gary

July 21, 2007, 01:54 PM	#11
George R Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 151	Mossberg For you Mossberg owners, I'd recommend you go to www.havlinsales.com. This is a H/W team who know more about Mossbergs than OF himself. They also run the Mossberg Collectors Assn. A fp from them is more $ ($18), but everything Mossberg they sell will fit.

July 16, 2005, 09:45 PM	#2
CaptainRazor Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2005 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 302	First I would try here: Gun Parts Corp After that, I really don't know what to tell you, other than you'll have to fashion your own again.

July 16, 2005, 10:05 PM	#3
Avizpls Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2004 Posts: 774	The problem is, I no longer have a template the tip of this one broke off. and even if i CAN make one again, out of what? Tool Steel obviously didnt work out all that well

July 17, 2005, 12:07 AM	#4
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,559	My cross references don't show a Western Field Model 853. However, most of these rifles were actually made by Mossberg, and even though there are MANY different model numbers, most are basically the same general gun. I do show the Western Field Models 850 855 as being the Mossberg 853. What I'd suggest is contacting Gun Parts Corporation with all the markings and the serial numbers that you can find on the rifle. I'm sure Gun Parts can supply a new firing pin, and a new rear sight elevator will be no problem at all. If you go to the Gun Parts web site at look at the Mossberg 853, possibly you can ID it as your rifle.

July 17, 2005, 01:22 AM	#5
mtnboomer Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Location: Oklahoma by birth. America by the grace of God. Posts: 635	My reference shows the WF 850 & 853 as the Mossberg 353 and the WF852 as the Mossberg 341.

July 17, 2005, 07:51 AM	#6
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	If the one you made broke, I would assume it didn't have the right dimensions or it was not heat treated properly.Tool steel [drill rod] would be the proper choice of material.

July 17, 2005, 06:38 PM	#7
Avizpls Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2004 Posts: 774	The firing pin i needs APPEARS to be the same as the one for the mossberg 353 http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...uctSKU=429870B The difference i see between that one and my gun is that mine has fifteen rounds dropped into the stock, and then pushed forward by a rod of sorts. Im sure you know what i mean. Thanks tho. I am going to order this as i am pretty sure its what i need.

July 19, 2007, 09:54 PM	#9
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The Gun Parts Corp. catalog (which I recommend you get) has a note on those Mossberg 353 firing pins, indicating that there are two very similar ones. They are flat, so not easily made out of drill rod, but sawing one out of flat tool steel should work OK, just don't harden it too much. GPC shows them at about $12 so it might not be worth it to make one. Whether you make or buy, pay attention to fitting the front part of the firing pin (the firing pin stop) so that the firing pin doesn't contact the breech face if the gun is dry fired. Jim