Dealer warehouse,38 super top end kits??

RoyP · May 24, 2004, 06:33 AM

I noticed these kits listed on thier website.Has anyone seen one of these?They don't have a picture of it on their site.Anyone know what brand the the slide and barrel are?Any info would be great thanks.
http://www.gunparts.citymax.com/cata...099/662667.htm

Labuyo · May 24, 2004, 05:34 PM

Them, being a distributor for RIA, I would say Armscor.

1911WB · May 24, 2004, 10:32 PM

Don't think you'll be able to use a .45 frame to build your .38 S if that's what u had in mind.

RoyP · May 25, 2004, 05:50 AM

As far as I know the frames are the same.The only difference being if its cut for a ramped barrel or not.I used to have one that had a 9mm top end and a 45 top end that I used on the same frame .The only thing I had to do was switch out the ejector when I changed it over.

Labuyo · May 25, 2004, 05:04 PM

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Don't think you'll be able to use a .45 frame to build your .38 S if that's what u had in mind.

It can be done! My frame used to be for .45 ACP. Then I converted it to 9mm doing what RoyP said.

Archie · May 25, 2004, 06:22 PM

Frames are the same.

Ejectors, mounted on the frame, are different.
Super 38 and 9x19 are the same, 45 Awfulmatic is different, and fits into the slide differently.

[bitter rant]Can't buy a frame only in PDSR California. @#$%^& liberals![/bitter rant]

1911WB · May 25, 2004, 06:38 PM

If I understood Archie correctly, he is making the point I tried to make earlier. Lots of knowledgeable 1911 people have told me over the years that the feed ramp on a .45 frame is different from that on a .38 S or 9mm- IOW not just the ejectors are different.

10mm · May 27, 2004, 05:08 PM

Getting a 9mm to work on a .45 frame and vice versa is really a matter of luck. The .45 frames have a deeper, longer feed ramp on the frame whereas the 9mm is shorter & shallower. The Colt Delta Elites also have a slightly different feed ramp. A 9mm feed ramp frame can be cut & shaped to match .45 dimensions but the opposite is generally not true wihtout welding.

May 24, 2004, 06:33 AM	#1
RoyP Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: corning,new york Posts: 217	Dealer warehouse,38 super top end kits?? I noticed these kits listed on thier website.Has anyone seen one of these?They don't have a picture of it on their site.Anyone know what brand the the slide and barrel are?Any info would be great thanks. http://www.gunparts.citymax.com/cata...099/662667.htm

May 24, 2004, 10:32 PM	#3
1911WB Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: Central CO Posts: 30	.38 S top end Don't think you'll be able to use a .45 frame to build your .38 S if that's what u had in mind.

May 25, 2004, 06:22 PM	#6
Archie Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2000 Location: Hastings, Nebrasksa - the Hear Posts: 2,209	Conversions..... Frames are the same. Ejectors, mounted on the frame, are different. Super 38 and 9x19 are the same, 45 Awfulmatic is different, and fits into the slide differently. [bitter rant]Can't buy a frame only in PDSR California. @#$%^& liberals![/bitter rant]

May 25, 2004, 06:38 PM	#7
1911WB Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: Central CO Posts: 30	Differences in ramps If I understood Archie correctly, he is making the point I tried to make earlier. Lots of knowledgeable 1911 people have told me over the years that the feed ramp on a .45 frame is different from that on a .38 S or 9mm- IOW not just the ejectors are different.

May 24, 2004, 05:34 PM	#2
Labuyo Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: somewhere in occupied Il. Posts: 223	Them, being a distributor for RIA, I would say Armscor.

May 25, 2004, 05:50 AM	#4
RoyP Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: corning,new york Posts: 217	As far as I know the frames are the same.The only difference being if its cut for a ramped barrel or not.I used to have one that had a 9mm top end and a 45 top end that I used on the same frame .The only thing I had to do was switch out the ejector when I changed it over.

May 27, 2004, 05:08 PM	#8
10mm Member Join Date: November 26, 2000 Posts: 67	Getting a 9mm to work on a .45 frame and vice versa is really a matter of luck. The .45 frames have a deeper, longer feed ramp on the frame whereas the 9mm is shorter & shallower. The Colt Delta Elites also have a slightly different feed ramp. A 9mm feed ramp frame can be cut & shaped to match .45 dimensions but the opposite is generally not true wihtout welding.