RCBS hand primer

p3ordie · January 31, 2002, 02:32 PM

Hello folks,
I purchased a RCBS hand primer about two weeks ago, I'm trying to load .40S&W. The priming rod seems to be to long, the primers wont fall into place because the primer rod is sticking up to high. I called RCBS and they sent a new one but I still have the same problem, any suggestions?

Thanks,
Mark

sricciardelli · January 31, 2002, 03:19 PM

Are you using a shellholder?

Is it an RCBS shellholder?

p3ordie · January 31, 2002, 04:01 PM

Yes,
I think it is #27.

jjmorgan64 · January 31, 2002, 05:35 PM

If the long flat guide bar, from the base to the handle is bent this can also block the primers from entering. I've done this more than once.

that would also explain why the new rod didn't help

Good Luck JM

p3ordie · January 31, 2002, 07:40 PM

I've attached a link to a pic showing the primer rod. Does everybody else's look like this?
http://www.orionpcb.com/RCBS.jpg

Thanks

Tol · January 31, 2002, 08:20 PM

I am a little unsure what you are asking so forgive me if I give an answer that has no bearing on your question.

I was having a similar problem and I discovered that I was not letting the handle all the way out. The result was that the primers were not able to slip through the slot that is cut into the safety gate assembly (curved piece of steel running between the tops of each piece.

Good luck, Tol

**Mal H** · January 31, 2002, 08:41 PM

Well that is an interesting problem, VP-66. If the handle is indeed pulled out all the way as Tol suggested, you might check this:

Remove the actuator assembly by rotating the handle fully open (curved gate piece not installed) and slide it out of the handle sideways. Remove the piston and see if there is a concave indentation on both ends of it. The amount that the primer rod is sticking out is about the right amount if one of the indentations was not machined into the plunger.

Let us know what you find. I'd be happy to measure the various parts to see what, if anything, is too long.

p3ordie · January 31, 2002, 10:26 PM

I made sure the handle was all the way back when I took the pic. I removed the piston and it is concave on both ends - I tried the piston in both directions and the primer rod was still sticking up too high, I also pushed down on the rod to make sure it was as far down as it can go. I really appreciate all the suggestions! If I can't figure this out I hope the store will take it back, I'll buy another one.

Thanks,
Mark

**Mal H** · January 31, 2002, 10:36 PM

No need to buy another one, RCBS backs all their stuff 100%. You might want to see if the store will exchange it or call back or email RCBS and let them know it is something other than the rod and you need a whole new tool. You might want to reference this thread so they can see what you're talking about.

Curiouser and curiouser! (I wish I could eyeball it in person to see what's wrong.)

MADISON · January 31, 2002, 11:46 PM

I had a problem with my "RCBS Auto Priming Tool", bench mounted Part # 09460. The stem would not go all the way down most of the time. I had to call them twice before they sent me what corrected the problem. CALL THEM AGAIN!!!
MADISON

**Mal H** · February 1, 2002, 02:39 AM

Although they're not the same tool, you bring up a very good point MADISON.

VP, check to see if the priming rod starts moving up the instant you start closing the handle or is there some hesitation and then it starts moving. If there is hesitation, then something is binding the rod and it isn't seated in the concave top of the piston. May be a burr inside the tube or some trash in there. Take a drill of the same size as the rod or slightly smaller and see if you can force it through with the piston and spring removed. If there is no hesitation, then I still dunno.

popbang · February 1, 2002, 10:03 AM

this may sound of the wall, but ihad a problem similar to yours. make sure that your primer tray isn't pushed in too far as it will interfere with your rod. Fred

Tol · February 1, 2002, 10:16 PM

It just occured to me that your primer rod might not be the correct length. I measured mine (which works fine) and it is 1.827". You may want to hit yours with some calipers just to make sure.

Good luck Brother

p3ordie · February 2, 2002, 10:32 AM

Well I just measured the primer rod and it is 1.8685", and I also measured the one RCBS just sent me and its the same! also as soon as I start to squeeze the handle the rod starts raising, no slop in the linkage, is this right? I suppose I could grind .040" off the rod but I'm going to take it back instead, doesn't RCBS have a newer hand model out? Thanks everyone for all the help!

Mark

**Mal H** · February 2, 2002, 12:01 PM

Tol, I think you've found the problem. I measured my priming rod and it is also 1.868". The .04" difference is almost exactly the amount that appears to be sticking out in the picture. Sounds like RCBS might have two different designs and supplied the wrong rod - twice.

I purchased my RCBS tool about 5 years ago. Tol, how old is yours?

p3ordie · February 2, 2002, 02:03 PM

I purchased mine about 2 weeks ago.

Mark

January 31, 2002, 02:32 PM	#1
p3ordie Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: SE WI Posts: 49	RCBS hand primer Hello folks, I purchased a RCBS hand primer about two weeks ago, I'm trying to load .40S&W. The priming rod seems to be to long, the primers wont fall into place because the primer rod is sticking up to high. I called RCBS and they sent a new one but I still have the same problem, any suggestions? Thanks, Mark

January 31, 2002, 05:35 PM	#4
jjmorgan64 Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2001 Posts: 519	are you sure the saftey gate isn't bent? If the long flat guide bar, from the base to the handle is bent this can also block the primers from entering. I've done this more than once. that would also explain why the new rod didn't help Good Luck JM

January 31, 2002, 11:46 PM	#10
MADISON Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2000 Location: Roanoke, Virginia Posts: 2,678	RCBS priming I had a problem with my "RCBS Auto Priming Tool", bench mounted Part # 09460. The stem would not go all the way down most of the time. I had to call them twice before they sent me what corrected the problem. CALL THEM AGAIN!!! MADISON

January 31, 2002, 03:19 PM	#2
sricciardelli Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: Montana Posts: 489	Are you using a shellholder? Is it an RCBS shellholder?

January 31, 2002, 04:01 PM	#3
p3ordie Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: SE WI Posts: 49	Yes, I think it is #27.

January 31, 2002, 07:40 PM	#5
p3ordie Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: SE WI Posts: 49	I've attached a link to a pic showing the primer rod. Does everybody else's look like this? http://www.orionpcb.com/RCBS.jpg Thanks

January 31, 2002, 08:20 PM	#6
Tol Member Join Date: November 21, 2001 Posts: 92	I am a little unsure what you are asking so forgive me if I give an answer that has no bearing on your question. I was having a similar problem and I discovered that I was not letting the handle all the way out. The result was that the primers were not able to slip through the slot that is cut into the safety gate assembly (curved piece of steel running between the tops of each piece. Good luck, Tol

January 31, 2002, 08:41 PM	#7
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 17,066	Well that is an interesting problem, VP-66. If the handle is indeed pulled out all the way as Tol suggested, you might check this: Remove the actuator assembly by rotating the handle fully open (curved gate piece not installed) and slide it out of the handle sideways. Remove the piston and see if there is a concave indentation on both ends of it. The amount that the primer rod is sticking out is about the right amount if one of the indentations was not machined into the plunger. Let us know what you find. I'd be happy to measure the various parts to see what, if anything, is too long.

January 31, 2002, 10:26 PM	#8
p3ordie Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: SE WI Posts: 49	I made sure the handle was all the way back when I took the pic. I removed the piston and it is concave on both ends - I tried the piston in both directions and the primer rod was still sticking up too high, I also pushed down on the rod to make sure it was as far down as it can go. I really appreciate all the suggestions! If I can't figure this out I hope the store will take it back, I'll buy another one. Thanks, Mark

January 31, 2002, 10:36 PM	#9
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 17,066	No need to buy another one, RCBS backs all their stuff 100%. You might want to see if the store will exchange it or call back or email RCBS and let them know it is something other than the rod and you need a whole new tool. You might want to reference this thread so they can see what you're talking about. Curiouser and curiouser! (I wish I could eyeball it in person to see what's wrong.)

February 1, 2002, 02:39 AM	#11
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 17,066	Although they're not the same tool, you bring up a very good point MADISON. VP, check to see if the priming rod starts moving up the instant you start closing the handle or is there some hesitation and then it starts moving. If there is hesitation, then something is binding the rod and it isn't seated in the concave top of the piston. May be a burr inside the tube or some trash in there. Take a drill of the same size as the rod or slightly smaller and see if you can force it through with the piston and spring removed. If there is no hesitation, then I still dunno.

February 1, 2002, 10:03 AM	#12
popbang Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2001 Location: out yonder Posts: 148	this may sound of the wall, but ihad a problem similar to yours. make sure that your primer tray isn't pushed in too far as it will interfere with your rod. Fred

February 1, 2002, 10:16 PM	#13
Tol Member Join Date: November 21, 2001 Posts: 92	It just occured to me that your primer rod might not be the correct length. I measured mine (which works fine) and it is 1.827". You may want to hit yours with some calipers just to make sure. Good luck Brother

February 2, 2002, 10:32 AM	#14
p3ordie Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: SE WI Posts: 49	Well I just measured the primer rod and it is 1.8685", and I also measured the one RCBS just sent me and its the same! also as soon as I start to squeeze the handle the rod starts raising, no slop in the linkage, is this right? I suppose I could grind .040" off the rod but I'm going to take it back instead, doesn't RCBS have a newer hand model out? Thanks everyone for all the help! Mark

February 2, 2002, 12:01 PM	#15
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 17,066	Tol, I think you've found the problem. I measured my priming rod and it is also 1.868". The .04" difference is almost exactly the amount that appears to be sticking out in the picture. Sounds like RCBS might have two different designs and supplied the wrong rod - twice. I purchased my RCBS tool about 5 years ago. Tol, how old is yours?

February 2, 2002, 02:03 PM	#16
p3ordie Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: SE WI Posts: 49	I purchased mine about 2 weeks ago. Mark