Just bought a kahr cm9. Trigger question. Repost from kahr talk.

CARBiNOX · December 15, 2016, 12:06 PM

This is a repost from kahr talk. This forum is just way more active. Looking for more opinions.

Hi everyone! I'm new to the forum and proud owner of a new kahr cm9! Quick question, what's with the gritty ass trigger? I have yet to shoot it. It's super new and greasy. Is this normal for the trigger to have this much grit before break in?

Update:So just to fast forward. It seems to be the retainer spring rubbing on the bottom of the trigger bar. Should the break in period smooth out the trigger bar? Any kahr fans or anyone with a similar issus out there?

weblance · December 15, 2016, 12:18 PM

I have 4 Kahrs, CM9 CW9 CM45 CW45. All have smooth triggers. Follow the recommended break in, then see how thing are. I don't remember any of them being gritty when new.

railroader · December 15, 2016, 12:38 PM

My kahr CM9 trigger is smooth. Can you handle another Kahr at a gun store to check another trigger?

Cheapshooter · December 15, 2016, 12:42 PM

I never noticed any objectionable "gritty" feel to my Kahr CM 9 trigger. But then again, I don't obsess about how wonderful the trigger should feel on a gun intended for CCW.
I thought mine felt fine, shot accurately, and performed 100% reliably from the first round fired. Although as with any gun I might carry I did jot put it into service before a minimum of 100 trouble free rounds. In the case of my Kahr, I made it the factory recomended 200 rounds.

CARBiNOX · December 15, 2016, 01:14 PM

Reply from kahr:
Hello,

Thank you for purchasing a Kahr Arms/Auto Ordnance product. We are sorry you are experiencing this issue. This may abate with break-in but we do recommend you send this in for service. We can establish an RMA for you to return your firearm for service. Here is a link to our online RMA request form.

https://www.kahr.com/kahr-rma.asp

Thanks,

I guess I'll send it in.

SDF880 · December 15, 2016, 01:49 PM

6 Kahr's 380 to 45 here and never any trigger issues.

FITASC · December 15, 2016, 01:54 PM

MY CM9 has always been smooth and never has any issues, even during "break-in". That loooong trigger can take some getting used to if you are more familiar with 1911, S&W single action, etc.

unclenunzie · December 15, 2016, 03:34 PM

Before you send it in degrease the striker channel with polymer safe gun scrubber or similar. No lubricants in the striker channel on these guns. See if dry fire works better afterwards.

You mentioned retainer spring rubbing on the trigger bar. Do you mean the trigger bar spring (#14)? If so you can put a tiny dab of synthetic grease there. And also a tiny dab where the trigger bar and trigger are retained by the trigger spacer (#11).

In general the Kahr trigger pulls should be very smooth, non-gritty and non-stacking with a clean break. If you try the above and it still is poor I'd send it in.

CARBiNOX · December 30, 2016, 11:24 PM

Got my gun back, trigger is perfect. Kahr Gunsmith put a small mark on my polymer frame. I'm pretty pissed about it. Emailed and waiting on a response.

Chainsaw. · December 30, 2016, 11:49 PM

What kind of mark?

**JohnKSa** · December 31, 2016, 12:01 AM

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...small mark on my polymer frame.

Carry gun? Put a bigger mark over the small one yourself. Then forget about it. Carry guns aren't for show & tell and anyway it's going to get other marks if you're actually going to carry it.

CARBiNOX · December 31, 2016, 12:58 AM

@johnksa yea you're totally right side. I wouldn't mind it if I did the damage but it's from the manufacturer. I mean c'mon..

@chainsaw it's a small mar on the polymer frame near the take down notch. A normal person wouldn't mind it but I have Yankee Marshall level ocd. I'll try to post a pic. Get ready to laugh...

hollowpointt · December 31, 2016, 05:00 PM

I would not be happy either, but a couple free mags from Kahr would make me feel better.

t4terrific · December 31, 2016, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CARBiNOX

@johnksa yea you're totally right side. I wouldn't mind it if I did the damage but it's from the manufacturer. I mean c'mon..

@chainsaw it's a small mar on the polymer frame near the take down notch. A normal person wouldn't mind it but I have Yankee Marshall level ocd. I'll try to post a pic. Get ready to laugh...

After a year in a kydex pocket holster, you'll forget about the mark on the economically priced pocket pistol.

My PM9 was $800 back in '09, and the rose was off the "pretty little pocket pistol" bloom after a year, with the holster scuffs on the frame and the stainless slide.

CARBiNOX · January 2, 2017, 04:35 PM

Yea I know the honeymoon period will wear off soon. Worst case scenario I'll take some free mags. I highly doubt they'll replace the frame lmao!

wild cat mccane · January 2, 2017, 04:59 PM

I bet you don't mean this mark, but Kahrs have a mark in the grip by the muzzle...

If not that, yeah, I would politely point it out and ape after.

CARBiNOX · January 2, 2017, 06:24 PM

Oh yeah totally dude. I told the rep" I appreciate the fast turnaround time for my trigger. But I would like to know what are we going to do about that damage?"

CARBiNOX · January 3, 2017, 02:37 PM

Kahr called me. Apologized for the damage and are sending out a free 7rd mag. You know what..I can live with that. They didn't fight me on the issue they just got it done. I like that. Customer service is A1 steak sauce!

**JohnKSa** · January 3, 2017, 07:26 PM

Those mags are expensive. If I could have them make several marks like that on my Kahr and give me a mag for each one I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

railroader · January 4, 2017, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Kahr called me. Apologized for the damage and are sending out a free 7rd mag. You know what..I can live with that. They didn't fight me on the issue they just got it done. I like that. Customer service is A1 steak sauce!

Glad you got your gun running and the free mag is nice. I carry mine almost everyday. It's light and thin.

GeoJelly · January 6, 2017, 02:48 PM

I have been watching this thread and finally picked up a CM9 yesterday. It has a lot more grip to hang onto compared to my CW-380 - but still carries very well in a hoodie jacket pocket. The slide is easier to rack than the CW-380 also. To keep this post on topic, the trigger isn't as smooth as my .380, but I haven't had it out to shoot it yet. There are a couple of small casting blems on the frame – and the slide has a couple of stains, sort of, in the bead blasting. All said - for $359 I am very happy!

mete · January 6, 2017, 03:10 PM

Now the new headquarters is open ,a gun store [more than just Kahr stuff] and soon to be a manufacturing operation too. Boss seems to be interesting guy .
A working gun will wear , get scratched etc .Take good care of it !!

CARBiNOX · January 6, 2017, 10:34 PM

@geojelly i recommend this ebay seller for a great pocket holster.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kahr-PM40-CM...YAAMXQrhdTR2Dm

just picked this one up in carbon holstex. its so sick!

ive purchased his pocket holsters for my cm9, glock 43, and sig p938. he makes excellent holsters for 25$ versus Alabama for 40$.

p.s. can someone explain to me how to quote text? lol thanks.

December 15, 2016, 01:54 PM	#7
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,641	MY CM9 has always been smooth and never has any issues, even during "break-in". That loooong trigger can take some getting used to if you are more familiar with 1911, S&W single action, etc. __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

December 15, 2016, 03:34 PM	#8
unclenunzie Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2016 Location: Texas. Posts: 143	Before you send it in degrease the striker channel with polymer safe gun scrubber or similar. No lubricants in the striker channel on these guns. See if dry fire works better afterwards. You mentioned retainer spring rubbing on the trigger bar. Do you mean the trigger bar spring (#14)? If so you can put a tiny dab of synthetic grease there. And also a tiny dab where the trigger bar and trigger are retained by the trigger spacer (#11). In general the Kahr trigger pulls should be very smooth, non-gritty and non-stacking with a clean break. If you try the above and it still is poor I'd send it in. __________________ I reject your reality and substitute my own! this space for rent

December 30, 2016, 11:24 PM	#9
CARBiNOX Junior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Posts: 11	Got my gun back, trigger is perfect. Kahr Gunsmith put a small mark on my polymer frame. I'm pretty pissed about it. Emailed and waiting on a response. Last edited by CARBiNOX; December 30, 2016 at 11:33 PM.

December 30, 2016, 11:49 PM	#10
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	What kind of mark? __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

December 31, 2016, 05:00 PM	#13
hollowpointt Member Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 44	mark on frame I would not be happy either, but a couple free mags from Kahr would make me feel better.

December 15, 2016, 12:06 PM	#1
CARBiNOX Junior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Posts: 11	Just bought a kahr cm9. Trigger question. Repost from kahr talk. This is a repost from kahr talk. This forum is just way more active. Looking for more opinions. Hi everyone! I'm new to the forum and proud owner of a new kahr cm9! Quick question, what's with the gritty ass trigger? I have yet to shoot it. It's super new and greasy. Is this normal for the trigger to have this much grit before break in? Update:So just to fast forward. It seems to be the retainer spring rubbing on the bottom of the trigger bar. Should the break in period smooth out the trigger bar? Any kahr fans or anyone with a similar issus out there?

December 15, 2016, 12:18 PM	#2
weblance Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Posts: 1,229	I have 4 Kahrs, CM9 CW9 CM45 CW45. All have smooth triggers. Follow the recommended break in, then see how thing are. I don't remember any of them being gritty when new.

December 15, 2016, 12:38 PM	#3
railroader Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2000 Location: Tucson Arizona Posts: 1,756	My kahr CM9 trigger is smooth. Can you handle another Kahr at a gun store to check another trigger?

December 15, 2016, 12:42 PM	#4
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	I never noticed any objectionable "gritty" feel to my Kahr CM 9 trigger. But then again, I don't obsess about how wonderful the trigger should feel on a gun intended for CCW. I thought mine felt fine, shot accurately, and performed 100% reliably from the first round fired. Although as with any gun I might carry I did jot put it into service before a minimum of 100 trouble free rounds. In the case of my Kahr, I made it the factory recomended 200 rounds.

December 15, 2016, 01:14 PM	#5
CARBiNOX Junior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Posts: 11	Reply from kahr: Hello, Thank you for purchasing a Kahr Arms/Auto Ordnance product. We are sorry you are experiencing this issue. This may abate with break-in but we do recommend you send this in for service. We can establish an RMA for you to return your firearm for service. Here is a link to our online RMA request form. https://www.kahr.com/kahr-rma.asp Thanks, I guess I'll send it in.

December 15, 2016, 01:49 PM	#6
SDF880 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2009 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 390	6 Kahr's 380 to 45 here and never any trigger issues.

January 2, 2017, 04:35 PM	#15
CARBiNOX Junior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Posts: 11	Yea I know the honeymoon period will wear off soon. Worst case scenario I'll take some free mags. I highly doubt they'll replace the frame lmao!

January 2, 2017, 04:59 PM	#16
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,855	I bet you don't mean this mark, but Kahrs have a mark in the grip by the muzzle... If not that, yeah, I would politely point it out and ape after.

January 2, 2017, 06:24 PM	#17
CARBiNOX Junior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Posts: 11	Oh yeah totally dude. I told the rep" I appreciate the fast turnaround time for my trigger. But I would like to know what are we going to do about that damage?"

January 3, 2017, 02:37 PM	#18
CARBiNOX Junior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Posts: 11	Kahr called me. Apologized for the damage and are sending out a free 7rd mag. You know what..I can live with that. They didn't fight me on the issue they just got it done. I like that. Customer service is A1 steak sauce!

January 3, 2017, 07:26 PM	#19
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 25,563	Those mags are expensive. If I could have them make several marks like that on my Kahr and give me a mag for each one I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

January 6, 2017, 02:48 PM	#21
GeoJelly Senior Member Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 112	I have been watching this thread and finally picked up a CM9 yesterday. It has a lot more grip to hang onto compared to my CW-380 - but still carries very well in a hoodie jacket pocket. The slide is easier to rack than the CW-380 also. To keep this post on topic, the trigger isn't as smooth as my .380, but I haven't had it out to shoot it yet. There are a couple of small casting blems on the frame – and the slide has a couple of stains, sort of, in the bead blasting. All said - for $359 I am very happy!

January 6, 2017, 03:10 PM	#22
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Now the new headquarters is open ,a gun store [more than just Kahr stuff] and soon to be a manufacturing operation too. Boss seems to be interesting guy . A working gun will wear , get scratched etc .Take good care of it !!

January 6, 2017, 10:34 PM	#23
CARBiNOX Junior Member Join Date: July 12, 2016 Posts: 11	@geojelly i recommend this ebay seller for a great pocket holster. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kahr-PM40-CM...YAAMXQrhdTR2Dm just picked this one up in carbon holstex. its so sick! ive purchased his pocket holsters for my cm9, glock 43, and sig p938. he makes excellent holsters for 25$ versus Alabama for 40$. p.s. can someone explain to me how to quote text? lol thanks.