Hornady Verus Dillon

THEWELSHM · July 11, 2015, 02:16 PM

They are like Smith versus Colt . The smith rotates one way Colt goes another.... Both are with their own tweaking issues as any engineered equipment will be. Either way great presses get into progressive My 02..

thewelshm

Nathan · July 11, 2015, 02:17 PM

Popcorn??

**Unclenick** · July 11, 2015, 02:50 PM

Well, some differences. More different Dillons to choose from, for one. General scuttlebutt says Dillon customer service is more determined to keep you happy. But both have their proponents.

Vance · July 11, 2015, 02:52 PM

I haven't had a problem with either companies customer service.

Jim243 · July 12, 2015, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Popcorn??

Is it buttered? I'll sit back and watch this too. (LOL)

Jim

1stmar · July 12, 2015, 06:00 AM

My 550b is 25 years old, no tweaking required.

Gunplummer · July 12, 2015, 06:30 AM

Not so much who you go with, but stick with one for compatibility.

higgite · July 12, 2015, 07:04 AM

Ladie-e-e-s and gentlemen! In the blue corner, weighing in at 35 lbs.,..................

LE-28 · July 12, 2015, 08:18 AM

I think this debate wore out quite a while ago. I haven't seen a good orange vs blue for quite a while and I'm glad of it.

I still say the first one you buy that works well for you is going to be your favorite.
In this case it's hard to lose.

Real Gun · July 12, 2015, 09:13 AM

It is no longer a two player game. The new line of more conventional design presses from RCBS are in the game, although a number of those interested are waiting to ensure that a good working case feeder will be available. There is a 5 or 7 station version. Bring money. RCBS was never price competitive.

**Unclenick** · July 12, 2015, 10:53 AM

And don't forget the other red. Lee has been making their progressives in one form or another for some time. But I've never heard of one that the owner didn't have to tweak fairly regularly. Their turret and single stage tools have got much more enthusiastic followings.

BigJimP · July 12, 2015, 03:08 PM

Yes, I agree....but:

a. Colt and S&W both made very good guns ( but I don't like the Colt - and much prefer the S&W ).

b. Hornaday and Dillon both make good equipment ...although I prefer the Dillon by a large margin...

1stmar · July 12, 2015, 04:07 PM

Unclenick when I first started reloading it was on a lee pro1000 that I got from midway for $99, pretty sure it included dies. It was so cheap I began buying 1 for each caliber. But as you said, constant tweaking. Mostly shell plate issues, if I recall there was a plastic screw under the shell plate that just never seemed right. Always felt like lee was so close to perfecting the balance between quality and price and for another $20 in parts they could have improved that design and really had a great low/mid volume progressive. Eventually got tired of messing with it and bought a Dillon. Been very happy since, but for the occasional times I reload some calibers, I would still buy a lee pro1000 if they worked out the kinks, just to avoid changing out parts.

Single-Sixer · July 14, 2015, 01:44 PM

Tough call. I don't need the capacity a progressive would give me, but if I did I'd probably only be able to decide by reloading some on each press.

jmorris · July 14, 2015, 02:12 PM

I have had both pre and post EZ Ject LNL's and still have at least one of every Dillon press.

Bongo Boy · July 14, 2015, 05:00 PM

Did I just witness a drive-by trolling incident?

WVMountaineer · July 14, 2015, 05:29 PM

My brother owns a Dillon. My best bud owns a Hornady. Both are great. Both are better than a Lee anything by miles. But, both are twice to three times the Loadmaster and, 3 to 5 times the Lee Pro 1000. For my uses, a Lee is great but, one day blue will adorn my bench. Lord Willing of course. God Bless

flashhole · July 17, 2015, 04:53 PM

Crappiest customer service on the planet or nirvana.

A no brainer to me.

Nathan · July 17, 2015, 05:42 PM

Flashole....Please clarify... I have had nothing but great support from Hornady.

Maybe Dillon is crappy??...but, I've Dillon is great too.

For me, it comes down to caliber change kits. I prefer Hornady's lack of caliber change kits.

Another Hornady benefit is that lnl QR die insert bushings ensure a perpendicular die mount. Dillon's die plate is loose causing less precise die alignment. Must be good enough as several comp shooters load Dillon.

flashhole · July 17, 2015, 06:43 PM

I've been burned by Hornady Customer Service 3 times over stupid piddly chit. I purged my bench of all things Hornady and will never buy any of their products again.

Maybe others have had better from them but I will continue to share my bad experience.

evtSmtx · July 18, 2015, 10:17 AM

I have a dillon 650 and a lee classic turret. like both. dillon's customer service can't be beaten although I did hear "Dillon Precision, this is Lee speaking. How can I help you?". Um, say your name again!

July 11, 2015, 02:16 PM	#1
THEWELSHM Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2015 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 238	Hornady Verus Dillon They are like Smith versus Colt . The smith rotates one way Colt goes another.... Both are with their own tweaking issues as any engineered equipment will be. Either way great presses get into progressive My 02.. thewelshm

July 11, 2015, 02:50 PM	#3
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,735	Well, some differences. More different Dillons to choose from, for one. General scuttlebutt says Dillon customer service is more determined to keep you happy. But both have their proponents. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

July 12, 2015, 10:53 AM	#11
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,735	And don't forget the other red. Lee has been making their progressives in one form or another for some time. But I've never heard of one that the owner didn't have to tweak fairly regularly. Their turret and single stage tools have got much more enthusiastic followings. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

July 14, 2015, 05:00 PM	#16
Bongo Boy Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: Colo Spgs CO Posts: 517	Did I just witness a drive-by trolling incident? Last edited by Bongo Boy; July 14, 2015 at 05:06 PM.

July 17, 2015, 04:53 PM	#18
flashhole Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2005 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 2,000	Crappiest customer service on the planet or nirvana. A no brainer to me. __________________ ,,, stupidity comes to some people very easily. 8/22/2017 my wife in a discussion about Liberals. Are you ready for civil war?

July 11, 2015, 02:17 PM	#2
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,820	Popcorn??

July 11, 2015, 02:52 PM	#4
Vance Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2011 Location: North Bend, OR Posts: 743	I haven't had a problem with either companies customer service.

July 12, 2015, 06:00 AM	#6
1stmar Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,378	My 550b is 25 years old, no tweaking required.

July 12, 2015, 06:30 AM	#7
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	Not so much who you go with, but stick with one for compatibility.

July 12, 2015, 07:04 AM	#8
higgite Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2010 Posts: 1,028	Ladie-e-e-s and gentlemen! In the blue corner, weighing in at 35 lbs.,..................

July 12, 2015, 08:18 AM	#9
LE-28 Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 759	I think this debate wore out quite a while ago. I haven't seen a good orange vs blue for quite a while and I'm glad of it. I still say the first one you buy that works well for you is going to be your favorite. In this case it's hard to lose.

July 12, 2015, 09:13 AM	#10
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	It is no longer a two player game. The new line of more conventional design presses from RCBS are in the game, although a number of those interested are waiting to ensure that a good working case feeder will be available. There is a 5 or 7 station version. Bring money. RCBS was never price competitive.

July 12, 2015, 03:08 PM	#12
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Yes, I agree....but: a. Colt and S&W both made very good guns ( but I don't like the Colt - and much prefer the S&W ). b. Hornaday and Dillon both make good equipment ...although I prefer the Dillon by a large margin...

July 12, 2015, 04:07 PM	#13
1stmar Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,378	Unclenick when I first started reloading it was on a lee pro1000 that I got from midway for $99, pretty sure it included dies. It was so cheap I began buying 1 for each caliber. But as you said, constant tweaking. Mostly shell plate issues, if I recall there was a plastic screw under the shell plate that just never seemed right. Always felt like lee was so close to perfecting the balance between quality and price and for another $20 in parts they could have improved that design and really had a great low/mid volume progressive. Eventually got tired of messing with it and bought a Dillon. Been very happy since, but for the occasional times I reload some calibers, I would still buy a lee pro1000 if they worked out the kinks, just to avoid changing out parts.

July 14, 2015, 01:44 PM	#14
Single-Sixer Member Join Date: June 17, 2015 Posts: 26	Tough call. I don't need the capacity a progressive would give me, but if I did I'd probably only be able to decide by reloading some on each press.

July 14, 2015, 02:12 PM	#15
jmorris Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2006 Posts: 3,078	I have had both pre and post EZ Ject LNL's and still have at least one of every Dillon press.

July 14, 2015, 05:29 PM	#17
WVMountaineer Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2015 Posts: 330	My brother owns a Dillon. My best bud owns a Hornady. Both are great. Both are better than a Lee anything by miles. But, both are twice to three times the Loadmaster and, 3 to 5 times the Lee Pro 1000. For my uses, a Lee is great but, one day blue will adorn my bench. Lord Willing of course. God Bless

July 17, 2015, 05:42 PM	#19
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,820	Flashole....Please clarify... I have had nothing but great support from Hornady. Maybe Dillon is crappy??...but, I've Dillon is great too. For me, it comes down to caliber change kits. I prefer Hornady's lack of caliber change kits. Another Hornady benefit is that lnl QR die insert bushings ensure a perpendicular die mount. Dillon's die plate is loose causing less precise die alignment. Must be good enough as several comp shooters load Dillon.

July 17, 2015, 06:43 PM	#20
flashhole Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2005 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 2,000	I've been burned by Hornady Customer Service 3 times over stupid piddly chit. I purged my bench of all things Hornady and will never buy any of their products again. Maybe others have had better from them but I will continue to share my bad experience. __________________ ,,, stupidity comes to some people very easily. 8/22/2017 my wife in a discussion about Liberals. Are you ready for civil war?

July 18, 2015, 10:17 AM	#21
evtSmtx Member Join Date: June 10, 2015 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 62	I have a dillon 650 and a lee classic turret. like both. dillon's customer service can't be beaten although I did hear "Dillon Precision, this is Lee speaking. How can I help you?". Um, say your name again!