Beginer- please check this out

BoogieMan · May 15, 2012, 02:51 PM

I am looking into getting into reloading. I found a Craigslist deel and would like one of you guru's to check it out please.
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/spo/2990716500.html
I want to load 9 luger, 40 s&w and maybe get into 30-06. Will this allow me to do that. What should I look out for when if or when I go see it. Do presses loose acuracy with wear? Can I re-bush a press (im a machinist) to retore if needed? Does it seem like a good deel?

Wyoredman · May 15, 2012, 02:55 PM

That set up should do what you want. I would have the owner load a few rounds to show you how it is done and how the press works. Looks like a good deal to me.

jaguarxk120 · May 15, 2012, 02:57 PM

Check on ebay for whats there you may find a much better press for the same money or a little more.

If your a machinist, how do you fix a die cast part made of zymak.

Brian Pfleuger · May 15, 2012, 02:57 PM

I'd want to know what the unlisted "tools" and such are, specifically.

That's only a 3 hole turret too.

You can buy the 4-hole version of that press in a kit (I'd buy the Classic turret instead though) for $113. I'd have to be getting a lot of extras to pay $120 for it used.

The "heads" as he calls them (turrets actually) are only like $12 each.

I wouldn't be interested in that set up. I'd want the 4-hole and the CLASSIC turret.

BoogieMan · May 15, 2012, 03:52 PM

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If your a machinist, how do you fix a die cast part made of zymak

I havent ever checked out a press to know what they are made from. Zymak is probably just what they call there process, commonly known as die cast or potmetal. I would have thought that reloading presses were made of cast iron. Fix is a pretty general statement. Can usually re-bush a part without to much trouble. If your talking a broken linkage or something along those lines I would probably make a new part. Stripped thread maybe helicoil or sleeve and re-thread.

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That's only a 3 hole turret too.

You can buy the 4-hole version of that press in a kit (I'd buy the Classic turret instead though) for $113. I'd have to be getting a lot of extras to pay $120 for it used.

The "heads" as he calls them (turrets actually) are only like $12 each.

I wouldn't be interested in that set up. I'd want the 4-hole and the CLASSIC turret

Thats valuable information. I would rather buy new for $8 less than get someone elses problems. But it does seem to have a lot of extras. Brass, inertia puller, is the auto powder loader an add on or part of the setup.

jimkim · May 15, 2012, 04:18 PM

I used one for twenty years. It was the same model as the one from the ad. I gave it back to the original owner last year. Now it's gone full circle, and returned to the man that bought it thirty years ago. Not too bad for something that needs to be fixed. I use one of the new Classic Turret presses now. I suggest saving up and getting one. If you get that one, keep the linkage bolts tight, and never force anything. If it takes both hands and all your body weight to size something, then something's wrong. Back off and take a second look. Common sense goes a long way.

If you need parts for it, you can find them here. If the base is worn you can get a new one for $15.00. The newer model has more ribs cast into it so they're more rigid than the older ones. http://leeprecision.com/parts/reload...et-press-parts

BoogieMan · May 15, 2012, 04:59 PM

Now that I have read into it a little more, especially the sticky at the top meant for someone like me. I may want to go full swing right off the bat and look into a progressive like the hornady lock and load auto. With pistol cartridges do you have to prep them? I understand the spent primer has to come out first. But can I just put them in a tumbler after that then start loading? Or do I need to trim and chamfer them?
On a side note. Has anyone gone all out and put a air cylinder on a loader to make it totally automated? Im new to this, but at a glance it looks like you could set this up with a couple of valves and a cylinder then go to dinner and pick up your box of 500 or so rnds after dessert.

Brian Pfleuger · May 15, 2012, 05:07 PM

There's really no case prep for handgun cartridges. Most actually shrink rather than grow and will be long lost before they might crack/split.

The caution with starting progressive is that there are 4 or 5 things happening every time you pull the handle. If you aren't careful, ESPECIALLY if you have a stoppage, you can easily miss something potentially disastrous.

Personally, I always recommend starting with the Classic turret. It can safely and easily produce 200 or do handgun rounds an hour but you only have one item to watch at any time.

Once you are familiar with the process you can sell the turret and go progressive. You probably won't lose $50 on the resale.

May 15, 2012, 02:51 PM	#1
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	Beginer- please check this out I am looking into getting into reloading. I found a Craigslist deel and would like one of you guru's to check it out please. http://southjersey.craigslist.org/spo/2990716500.html I want to load 9 luger, 40 s&w and maybe get into 30-06. Will this allow me to do that. What should I look out for when if or when I go see it. Do presses loose acuracy with wear? Can I re-bush a press (im a machinist) to retore if needed? Does it seem like a good deel?

May 15, 2012, 02:55 PM	#2
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,373	That set up should do what you want. I would have the owner load a few rounds to show you how it is done and how the press works. Looks like a good deal to me. __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

May 15, 2012, 02:57 PM	#4
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,694	I'd want to know what the unlisted "tools" and such are, specifically. That's only a 3 hole turret too. You can buy the 4-hole version of that press in a kit (I'd buy the Classic turret instead though) for $113. I'd have to be getting a lot of extras to pay $120 for it used. The "heads" as he calls them (turrets actually) are only like $12 each. I wouldn't be interested in that set up. I'd want the 4-hole and the CLASSIC turret. __________________ https://ecommercearms.com I am the owner/operator! Ask me for custom prices! No sales tax outside CO!

May 15, 2012, 04:18 PM	#6
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2008 Location: middle GA Posts: 326	I used one for twenty years. It was the same model as the one from the ad. I gave it back to the original owner last year. Now it's gone full circle, and returned to the man that bought it thirty years ago. Not too bad for something that needs to be fixed. I use one of the new Classic Turret presses now. I suggest saving up and getting one. If you get that one, keep the linkage bolts tight, and never force anything. If it takes both hands and all your body weight to size something, then something's wrong. Back off and take a second look. Common sense goes a long way. If you need parts for it, you can find them here. If the base is worn you can get a new one for $15.00. The newer model has more ribs cast into it so they're more rigid than the older ones. http://leeprecision.com/parts/reload...et-press-parts __________________ Jan. 4, 2007 gasoline $2.10 gal....HMMM? Last edited by jimkim; May 15, 2012 at 04:25 PM.

May 15, 2012, 02:57 PM	#3
jaguarxk120 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,626	Check on ebay for whats there you may find a much better press for the same money or a little more. If your a machinist, how do you fix a die cast part made of zymak.

May 15, 2012, 04:59 PM	#7
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	Now that I have read into it a little more, especially the sticky at the top meant for someone like me. I may want to go full swing right off the bat and look into a progressive like the hornady lock and load auto. With pistol cartridges do you have to prep them? I understand the spent primer has to come out first. But can I just put them in a tumbler after that then start loading? Or do I need to trim and chamfer them? On a side note. Has anyone gone all out and put a air cylinder on a loader to make it totally automated? Im new to this, but at a glance it looks like you could set this up with a couple of valves and a cylinder then go to dinner and pick up your box of 500 or so rnds after dessert.

May 15, 2012, 05:07 PM	#8
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,694	There's really no case prep for handgun cartridges. Most actually shrink rather than grow and will be long lost before they might crack/split. The caution with starting progressive is that there are 4 or 5 things happening every time you pull the handle. If you aren't careful, ESPECIALLY if you have a stoppage, you can easily miss something potentially disastrous. Personally, I always recommend starting with the Classic turret. It can safely and easily produce 200 or do handgun rounds an hour but you only have one item to watch at any time. Once you are familiar with the process you can sell the turret and go progressive. You probably won't lose $50 on the resale.