H110 or IMR4227

LOLBELL · October 8, 2010, 03:39 PM

Which do you prefer for the 44mag and why? I have not loaded any heavy loads for this caliber yet. I would like to work up a load for whitetail hunting using Hornady 240gr XTP's. To date all I have loaded for the 44 is some light plinking loads. I will be shooting these in a Super Blackhawk Hunter Bisley.

Sevens · October 8, 2010, 07:00 PM

I have IMR-4227 on hand but I don't have any H110.

For .44 Mag, I would personally choose neither. I would skip IMR-4227 because you really won't get the velocity from it that you can get from magnum pistol powders. But sure, it'll work if you have it.

I would skip H110 because it's not a flexible powder and it cannot be safely reduced. Also, I prefer to not need any magnum primers in my cache, and H110 tends to work better with them.

With that said, if you don't need reduced loads and you don't mind a magnum primer or have them on hand, you'd be hard pressed to beat H110.

Me? I'd likely use Alliant 2400. Not as much speed as H110, but more flexible.

Jim243 · October 8, 2010, 07:21 PM

What Sevens said. I don't do 44 mag, but for 357 mag you get excelent results with 2400 powder.

Jim

LOLBELL · October 8, 2010, 08:38 PM

At my local gun shop I am pretty much limited to IMR or Hodgdon powders. I may need to take a road trip to a near by shop and get some 2400 to try.

m&p45acp10+1 · October 8, 2010, 08:40 PM

I have no experince with .44 mag. I do load for .41 mag. I have used H-110, Alliant 2400, IMR 4227, and Acurate #9. My prefed powder is the AA#9. It is more flexable with loads. I can use it with jacketed, plated, and my home cast lead (non gas checked). It gives good consistant results, meters well, and is very clean.
For flat out big boom, bright flash, and scorching velocity H-110 is at the top. Acurate #9 will come close in velocity, with less flash, and is cleaner.

GP100man · October 8, 2010, 08:48 PM

H-110 for bullets under 250 grs. , too spiky for the heavies in 44 or too narrow a window it`ll work in.

IMR 4227 is alot easier to work with pressure wise with the heavies & 4227 is`nt as snappy with recoil either .

4227 won`t give top FPS , but a good solid performer !!!

slammedsi · October 8, 2010, 09:50 PM

I'm loving my 300gr jhp over 20grs of h110. Makes for a GREAT pig rounds.but you better hang on. Feels similar to riding that big bronc out of the gates.

Desert Dog · October 8, 2010, 10:35 PM

I am a big fan of hodgdon Lil'Gun for my heavier loads in .45 Colt.

AlaskaMike · October 8, 2010, 10:36 PM

One of my favorite powders is H110 (actually I have it in W296 form). Not being able to use it in reduced loads is irrelevant for me because I'll use Power Pistol or 231 for my reduced loads. While I like 2400 and IMR-4227, H110/296 is my go-to powder for full power .44 mag loads, hands down.

GP100man, I'm surprised that you've found it spiky with heavier bullets. I've had great success using it with 300+ grain cast and jacketed bullets, both in my revolvers and my Rossi 92 carbine.

As much as I like H110/296, I do also like IMR-4227 very much. While you don't get the velocity with it that you do with the other slow burners, it is awesome in the accuracy department.

TXGunNut · October 8, 2010, 11:02 PM

2400 and 44 mag? A match made in...brass (and steel). H110/WW296 sounds good too but I haven't tried it, probably will soon.

GP100man · October 9, 2010, 12:19 AM

Alaska Mike

I loaded the lee 310 rnfp up in .2gr increments to a point that muzzle blast & recoil was twice as ferocious as the load .2grs. lower & the brass was stiky in the cyl .

Over the week end I`ll see ifin I can dig up the notes on that loading .

Wish I had a chronograph back then !!!!!

October 8, 2010, 03:39 PM	#1
LOLBELL Senior Member Join Date: March 4, 2010 Location: Fayette AL Posts: 227	H110 or IMR4227 Which do you prefer for the 44mag and why? I have not loaded any heavy loads for this caliber yet. I would like to work up a load for whitetail hunting using Hornady 240gr XTP's. To date all I have loaded for the 44 is some light plinking loads. I will be shooting these in a Super Blackhawk Hunter Bisley. __________________ Don't squat with your spurs on!!

October 8, 2010, 07:00 PM	#2
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,775	I have IMR-4227 on hand but I don't have any H110. For .44 Mag, I would personally choose neither. I would skip IMR-4227 because you really won't get the velocity from it that you can get from magnum pistol powders. But sure, it'll work if you have it. I would skip H110 because it's not a flexible powder and it cannot be safely reduced. Also, I prefer to not need any magnum primers in my cache, and H110 tends to work better with them. With that said, if you don't need reduced loads and you don't mind a magnum primer or have them on hand, you'd be hard pressed to beat H110. Me? I'd likely use Alliant 2400. Not as much speed as H110, but more flexible. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

October 8, 2010, 08:38 PM	#4
LOLBELL Senior Member Join Date: March 4, 2010 Location: Fayette AL Posts: 227	At my local gun shop I am pretty much limited to IMR or Hodgdon powders. I may need to take a road trip to a near by shop and get some 2400 to try. __________________ Don't squat with your spurs on!!

October 8, 2010, 08:40 PM	#5
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,947	I have no experince with .44 mag. I do load for .41 mag. I have used H-110, Alliant 2400, IMR 4227, and Acurate #9. My prefed powder is the AA#9. It is more flexable with loads. I can use it with jacketed, plated, and my home cast lead (non gas checked). It gives good consistant results, meters well, and is very clean. For flat out big boom, bright flash, and scorching velocity H-110 is at the top. Acurate #9 will come close in velocity, with less flash, and is cleaner. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

October 8, 2010, 10:35 PM	#8
Desert Dog Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 1999 Location: Deep East Texas Posts: 474	I am a big fan of hodgdon Lil'Gun for my heavier loads in .45 Colt. __________________ Yes, in fact I do have a 454... in more ways than one. "No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority" - Thomas Jefferson

October 8, 2010, 07:21 PM	#3
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	What Sevens said. I don't do 44 mag, but for 357 mag you get excelent results with 2400 powder. Jim

October 8, 2010, 08:48 PM	#6
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	H-110 for bullets under 250 grs. , too spiky for the heavies in 44 or too narrow a window it`ll work in. IMR 4227 is alot easier to work with pressure wise with the heavies & 4227 is`nt as snappy with recoil either . 4227 won`t give top FPS , but a good solid performer !!!

October 8, 2010, 09:50 PM	#7
slammedsi Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2010 Location: Vernon Texas Posts: 474	I'm loving my 300gr jhp over 20grs of h110. Makes for a GREAT pig rounds.but you better hang on. Feels similar to riding that big bronc out of the gates.

October 8, 2010, 10:36 PM	#9
AlaskaMike Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Posts: 947	One of my favorite powders is H110 (actually I have it in W296 form). Not being able to use it in reduced loads is irrelevant for me because I'll use Power Pistol or 231 for my reduced loads. While I like 2400 and IMR-4227, H110/296 is my go-to powder for full power .44 mag loads, hands down. GP100man, I'm surprised that you've found it spiky with heavier bullets. I've had great success using it with 300+ grain cast and jacketed bullets, both in my revolvers and my Rossi 92 carbine. As much as I like H110/296, I do also like IMR-4227 very much. While you don't get the velocity with it that you do with the other slow burners, it is awesome in the accuracy department.

October 8, 2010, 11:02 PM	#10
TXGunNut Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: If you have to ask... Posts: 2,860	2400 and 44 mag? A match made in...brass (and steel). H110/WW296 sounds good too but I haven't tried it, probably will soon.

October 9, 2010, 12:19 AM	#11
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	Alaska Mike I loaded the lee 310 rnfp up in .2gr increments to a point that muzzle blast & recoil was twice as ferocious as the load .2grs. lower & the brass was stiky in the cyl . Over the week end I`ll see ifin I can dig up the notes on that loading . Wish I had a chronograph back then !!!!!