Your Most Unorthodox Load? - Page 2

zxcvbob · July 4, 2010, 06:00 PM

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9mm, Full case of Pyrodex P, 115gr XTP
Shot fine, but wouldn't cycle the action. Very accurate, but also very dirty.

Might be worth trying again using 777 instead of Pyrodex. (still might not cycle, but at least it won't be quite so filthy.)

rogn · July 5, 2010, 05:29 PM

Peetzakilla- I plann on trying TB at some point, but right now Ive got a lot of the AL7 Imusing it in a bunch of applications, but the can refuses to go down.

Magnum Wheel Man · July 7, 2010, 08:35 AM

got a 17 K Hornet barrel for my Contender... any loads in that are "unique"

been doing some expiriements with a fast twist Hornet got both a 6" - 8 shot revolver & a Ruger 77 22 Hornet with 1 in 9" twist barrels... have been loading up to 68 grain bullets in the Hornet cases with good luck...

been loading 32 & 38 S&W cartridges with Trailboss & lead round balls for old black powder revolvers...

right now I've been loading "African safari hot" loads for my Guide gun in 45-70... loaded a box of 50 last night that used almost 1/3 of a pound of powder... quite a change from my 0.7 grains of Trailboss I load in my 32 S&W round ball loads

Old Grump · July 7, 2010, 12:37 PM

Not unorthodox but how many are loading for 25-20?

Load plastic shot shell cups in my 357 and 38s w/just a primer because I can't get the plastic bullets anywhere.

Tried an experiment of loading 45 ACP 230 gr hardball ammo backwards for HD loads. Couldn't hit paper at 25', tried 220 gr LSWC and that was much better.

Neighbors dog load when it wouldn't stop chasing our chickens. Dump the shot in a 10 gauge shell. Fill with dried feed corn and fill up case with melted bacon fat. Makes the rump of white dog turn mostly black, sends him home in a hurry with no lasting damage and he never came back to chase another chicken. Barrel smelled like popcorn and bacon. Easy to clean by running a cleaning rag down the barrel. Loved that smell combination.

troy_mclure · July 7, 2010, 02:35 PM

.44mag case full of pyrodex with a rainier 300gr bullet. fired this thru my 7.5" ruger sbh.

verry mild but suprisingly accurate at 25yd.

Crankylove · July 7, 2010, 08:59 PM

200 & 250 grain .358 diameter bullets (from my .358 Winchester) loaded in .38 Special cases with a charge of Trailboss.

BillCA · July 8, 2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Grump

Neighbors dog load when it wouldn't stop chasing our chickens. Dump the shot in a 10 gauge shell. Fill with dried feed corn and fill up case with melted bacon fat. Makes the rump of white dog turn mostly black, sends him home in a hurry with no lasting damage and he never came back to chase another chicken. Barrel smelled like popcorn and bacon. Easy to clean by running a cleaning rag down the barrel. Loved that smell combination.

LOL ! The smell of popcorn, bacon and gunpowder. Um-Ummm, good!

OG - try a 255gr LSWC sized to .452 with 9 grains of Blue Dot. You have to single-feed them but whatever you hit with that first shot will look like it was hit by an anvil.

Old Grump · July 8, 2010, 11:37 AM

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OG - try a 255gr LSWC sized to .452 with 9 grains of Blue Dot. You have to single-feed them but whatever you hit with that first shot will look like it was hit by an anvil.

I'll probably feel like I was hit by an anvil. My gun is a NM pistol put together by the boys at Fort Benning USAMU. Not sure I would do that to that old gun, its been in my hands since 1972 and I bought it from the original owner a Commander on the Navy pistol team.

My backwards bullet trick was also load the first one by hand and follow up with hardball because they wouldn't feed. I was also 35 years younger and was still doing stupid stuff after reading about somebody else trying it and claiming it was a good idea...it wasn't. I'm more conservative in my old age and I was old enough I should have know better back then but oh well.

qualfang · July 8, 2010, 11:36 PM

JHP copper shells filled with epoxy resin. 3345 fps from a 6" .357 Dan Wesson, 2400 fps from a 4" HK USP40- still had enough momentum to cycle the action properly, ludicrously low recoil.

I forget the specifics, but a 3/4" dia dowel rod trimmed to about .725" diameter, muzzle loaded into 12ga 870 loaded with a shell that had the rifled slug removed. In case of vampires, of course. :-) do NOT use on resiliant targets- the wood bounces, and it's moving at bullet velocities- and has no directional stability.

.22cb shorts, with most of the lead trimmed off the nose- you'd think lighter weight would mean more velocity, but it was tyhe opposite. Came to figure out there was not enough backpressure to burn the powder completely. about 350-450 fps with maybe 10gr of lead. Sounded about as loud as a pellet gun of similar ballistics.

sc928porsche · July 9, 2010, 01:12 AM

I load 45-120 with H-4895. Just make sure that your replica is built to handle it.

dlb435 · July 10, 2010, 02:52 PM

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7.9 gr. of HS7 (no longer available) 115 gr RN bullet in 9mm Luger for use in an UZI. Chrono'd at 1550 fps. with 16" barrel.

TXGunNut · July 10, 2010, 05:10 PM

Hmmm...I have a pound of HS-7, was wondering what it was good for. Had an HK 94 about the time that powder was made.

Clark · July 11, 2010, 02:52 AM

30-30 brass in a 303 Savage with the bullet seated backwards.
The Sav99 lever, when pulled back, chambers the round by pushing the shoulder back.

TX Nimrod · July 11, 2010, 11:24 PM

IHMSA BB load in .30 Carbine 10" T/C barrel:

165 SIL RCBS cast bullet
16.5 grains Reloder 7, F205M
1500 fps, 99% effective on BB rams.

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troy_mclure · July 12, 2010, 02:53 AM

this is a good thread.

now that i have .457 round balls im going to make me a few 2 and 3 ball .45/70 loads.

Clone · July 12, 2010, 01:42 PM

peetzakilla,

Mine is a bit like yours. I have been loading 7.62x39 with 8gr of Trail Boss using Berry's .311 110gr plated bullet. Cheap plinking, accurate, easy to work with (dispenses well in my RCBS loadmaster, and is easy to clean up), and reliable(fills the case, burns completely). I love it.

noylj · July 16, 2010, 01:35 PM

Don't think many others have tried these:

.38 Super
Hornady Cowboy 140g swaged L-RNFP
231 3.5gn or Silhouette 5.1gn
CCI 500
COL 1.262

9x19
L-RNFP zinc-washer base 132gn
Red Dot 3.5gn or Silhouette 4.0gn
WSP
COL 1.039

zxcvbob · July 18, 2010, 01:19 AM

I just fired up the progressive press tonight for the first time in months. (haven't been reloading much lately, and using the SS press when I did.) I forgot how long it takes to set it up. Anyway,

I just loaded a box of 50 to see how they shoot before I do up a whole bunch of 'em:

Winchester .38 Special brass
Wolf SP primer
5.5 grains Titegroup (I'm trying to use up the last of it)
148 grain DEWC loaded @ 1.36" overall length

I crimped them just over the top lube band. These will not chamber in a .38 Special but they chamber just fine in a .357 Magnum. Not sure if they are long enough to feed properly in a Marlin 1894C but I think they should be OK.

If these work like I expect, I'll switch to a slower powder like WSF or AA#7 for more power when I run out of TG. Or if I like this power level, I'll switch to Promo or Bullseye instead.

They look like little sledgehammers.

Wleoff · July 18, 2010, 09:12 AM

When I was a kid, we use to load rock salt in 12 gauge rounds. Great for strays of any species. I use to load paper wrapped 43 Spanish rounds for an old Argentina Remington Rolling Block.

Eb1 · July 18, 2010, 11:24 AM

Most accurate load you will find for the Marlin 30-30 336W. Well in my gun.

Non published loading.

Rem brass
CCI Primer
125 grain Sierra HP
24.5 grain VV N120
2.45 OAL
Lee Crimp

5 fps speard out of 20, and with a scoped gun. All will go into a nickle at less @100. I shot this load with a receiver sightk, and still get an inch or under. Sight in a 50 or 75 yards. Makes one heck of a woods gun without the noise. You get complete penetration even length wise on a decent size doe at 60 yards. I have never seen such a good 30-30 round that did not kick at all, and is pretty darn quite. That just flat out kills and shoots straign as an arrow..

July 7, 2010, 08:35 AM	#28
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	Little, medium & big... got a 17 K Hornet barrel for my Contender... any loads in that are "unique" been doing some expiriements with a fast twist Hornet got both a 6" - 8 shot revolver & a Ruger 77 22 Hornet with 1 in 9" twist barrels... have been loading up to 68 grain bullets in the Hornet cases with good luck... been loading 32 & 38 S&W cartridges with Trailboss & lead round balls for old black powder revolvers... right now I've been loading "African safari hot" loads for my Guide gun in 45-70... loaded a box of 50 last night that used almost 1/3 of a pound of powder... quite a change from my 0.7 grains of Trailboss I load in my 32 S&W round ball loads

July 7, 2010, 12:37 PM	#29
Old Grump Member in memoriam Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in Posts: 3,144	Not unorthodox but how many are loading for 25-20? Load plastic shot shell cups in my 357 and 38s w/just a primer because I can't get the plastic bullets anywhere. Tried an experiment of loading 45 ACP 230 gr hardball ammo backwards for HD loads. Couldn't hit paper at 25', tried 220 gr LSWC and that was much better. Neighbors dog load when it wouldn't stop chasing our chickens. Dump the shot in a 10 gauge shell. Fill with dried feed corn and fill up case with melted bacon fat. Makes the rump of white dog turn mostly black, sends him home in a hurry with no lasting damage and he never came back to chase another chicken. Barrel smelled like popcorn and bacon. Easy to clean by running a cleaning rag down the barrel. Loved that smell combination. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

July 7, 2010, 08:59 PM	#31
Crankylove Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2008 Location: 4B ID Posts: 1,770	200 & 250 grain .358 diameter bullets (from my .358 Winchester) loaded in .38 Special cases with a charge of Trailboss. __________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776

July 8, 2010, 11:36 PM	#34
qualfang Member Join Date: June 28, 2010 Location: Chicago-ish Posts: 57	bizarre loads JHP copper shells filled with epoxy resin. 3345 fps from a 6" .357 Dan Wesson, 2400 fps from a 4" HK USP40- still had enough momentum to cycle the action properly, ludicrously low recoil. I forget the specifics, but a 3/4" dia dowel rod trimmed to about .725" diameter, muzzle loaded into 12ga 870 loaded with a shell that had the rifled slug removed. In case of vampires, of course. :-) do NOT use on resiliant targets- the wood bounces, and it's moving at bullet velocities- and has no directional stability. .22cb shorts, with most of the lead trimmed off the nose- you'd think lighter weight would mean more velocity, but it was tyhe opposite. Came to figure out there was not enough backpressure to burn the powder completely. about 350-450 fps with maybe 10gr of lead. Sounded about as loud as a pellet gun of similar ballistics.

July 16, 2010, 01:35 PM	#42
noylj Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2007 Location: Between CA and NM Posts: 860	My "Unique" Loads Don't think many others have tried these: .38 Super Hornady Cowboy 140g swaged L-RNFP 231 3.5gn or Silhouette 5.1gn CCI 500 COL 1.262 9x19 L-RNFP zinc-washer base 132gn Red Dot 3.5gn or Silhouette 4.0gn WSP COL 1.039

July 5, 2010, 05:29 PM	#27
rogn Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 2005 Posts: 203	Peetzakilla- I plann on trying TB at some point, but right now Ive got a lot of the AL7 Imusing it in a bunch of applications, but the can refuses to go down.

July 7, 2010, 02:35 PM	#30
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	.44mag case full of pyrodex with a rainier 300gr bullet. fired this thru my 7.5" ruger sbh. verry mild but suprisingly accurate at 25yd.

July 9, 2010, 01:12 AM	#35
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,433	I load 45-120 with H-4895. Just make sure that your replica is built to handle it.

July 10, 2010, 02:52 PM	#36
dlb435 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2009 Posts: 654	CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information. 7.9 gr. of HS7 (no longer available) 115 gr RN bullet in 9mm Luger for use in an UZI. Chrono'd at 1550 fps. with 16" barrel.

July 10, 2010, 05:10 PM	#37
TXGunNut Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: If you have to ask... Posts: 2,860	Hmmm...I have a pound of HS-7, was wondering what it was good for. Had an HK 94 about the time that powder was made.

July 11, 2010, 02:52 AM	#38
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	30-30 brass in a 303 Savage with the bullet seated backwards. The Sav99 lever, when pulled back, chambers the round by pushing the shoulder back.

July 11, 2010, 11:24 PM	#39
TX Nimrod Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2009 Location: Zona Posts: 432	IHMSA BB load in .30 Carbine 10" T/C barrel: 165 SIL RCBS cast bullet 16.5 grains Reloder 7, F205M 1500 fps, 99% effective on BB rams. CAUTION: The above post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information. .

July 12, 2010, 02:53 AM	#40
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	this is a good thread. now that i have .457 round balls im going to make me a few 2 and 3 ball .45/70 loads.

July 12, 2010, 01:42 PM	#41
Clone Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Posts: 234	peetzakilla, Mine is a bit like yours. I have been loading 7.62x39 with 8gr of Trail Boss using Berry's .311 110gr plated bullet. Cheap plinking, accurate, easy to work with (dispenses well in my RCBS loadmaster, and is easy to clean up), and reliable(fills the case, burns completely). I love it.

July 18, 2010, 01:19 AM	#43
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 4,720	I just fired up the progressive press tonight for the first time in months. (haven't been reloading much lately, and using the SS press when I did.) I forgot how long it takes to set it up. Anyway, I just loaded a box of 50 to see how they shoot before I do up a whole bunch of 'em: Winchester .38 Special brass Wolf SP primer 5.5 grains Titegroup (I'm trying to use up the last of it) 148 grain DEWC loaded @ 1.36" overall length I crimped them just over the top lube band. These will not chamber in a .38 Special but they chamber just fine in a .357 Magnum. Not sure if they are long enough to feed properly in a Marlin 1894C but I think they should be OK. If these work like I expect, I'll switch to a slower powder like WSF or AA#7 for more power when I run out of TG. Or if I like this power level, I'll switch to Promo or Bullseye instead. They look like little sledgehammers. __________________ "Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire!" —Lucille Bluth

July 18, 2010, 09:12 AM	#44
Wleoff Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2008 Location: North AL Posts: 380	When I was a kid, we use to load rock salt in 12 gauge rounds. Great for strays of any species. I use to load paper wrapped 43 Spanish rounds for an old Argentina Remington Rolling Block.

July 18, 2010, 11:24 AM	#45
Eb1 Junior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Posts: 6	Most accurate load you will find for the Marlin 30-30 336W. Well in my gun. Non published loading. Rem brass CCI Primer 125 grain Sierra HP 24.5 grain VV N120 2.45 OAL Lee Crimp 5 fps speard out of 20, and with a scoped gun. All will go into a nickle at less @100. I shot this load with a receiver sightk, and still get an inch or under. Sight in a 50 or 75 yards. Makes one heck of a woods gun without the noise. You get complete penetration even length wise on a decent size doe at 60 yards. I have never seen such a good 30-30 round that did not kick at all, and is pretty darn quite. That just flat out kills and shoots straign as an arrow..