264 Win Mag Sizing Troubles

quillgordo · June 29, 2010, 03:04 PM

I purchased a 1963 Browning Safari. I tried new brass, and after one firing, it's hard as hell to resize the case. Is my chamber oversize? Is this a consistent problem with this cartridge? Thanks

wncchester · June 29, 2010, 05:31 PM

" it's hard as hell to resize the case. Is my chamber oversize? Is this a consistent problem with this cartridge? "

No cartridge is consistently "hard" to resize but big ones require more force than small ones. No way do I believe there's anything wrong with that rifle unless it's been damaged. Even if the chamber is bulged it should be easy to resize the brass.

You're asking a lot of us but giving us little to go on. Is your ammo factory or reloads? The brand of your dies doesn't matter but would you tell us what press and case lube you're using? Have you had any cases get stuck in the die and you pulled the rim off?

Also tell us how you are defining "hard as hell to resize." I mean, will the cases not enter the die at all, or do they go halfway and stop, or do you get them almost all the way in and stop, or do you get them all the way in and out but the bullets won't go in or stay in, etc?

quillgordo · July 12, 2010, 03:43 PM

Thanks for the reply to my post.
I have a bag of new never shot, brass. I lubed the cases with one shot, and then tried to size them. They will go in, about to the shoulder, and then you almost can't use enough force to size them. What I did was use a, quick, forceful stroke to size them. And somewhere around 15 or so, I broke the link on my Lee sizer. I have the O or D model, that is stronger than the open model.
No way it should take that much force.
Thanks

g.willikers · July 12, 2010, 07:15 PM

This might be off base, but could it be the die and not the case?

WIL TERRY · July 13, 2010, 01:07 PM

I have never had a problem FL sizing the brass for either gun. The RCBS A2 along with RCBS loading dies work just fine, than you very much.

William T. Watts · July 13, 2010, 02:14 PM

One shot case lube and a broken Lee Press should tell you that you don't have the right tools for the job. Nothing works better than RCBS Case lube-2 nor a RCBS Rock Chucker reloading press. Additionally nothing works better than good quality reloading dies I.E. RCBS or Redding or Hornady etc. I do have Lee's crimp die but other than that I use only the above manufactures products for dies etc. I hesitate to post this but I don't think you have the right tools for what you want to do. William

saltydog452 · July 13, 2010, 04:37 PM

Back when the Earth was flat, I used STP on a stamp pad with my .264 brass.

Messy, but it worked then. I'd imagine it'd work now.

Clean your dies. Ether works. Don't smoke if you are even THINKING about Ether.

salty

Buzzard Bait · July 13, 2010, 08:06 PM

# 1 what are you using for lube? With the right lube you should be able to drive about any thing up that die.
# 2 what does the case look like when you get it sized? does it change in size more than it should? Have you miked any of the cases after sizing? I once had a die that was missmarked, like goes in a 264 and comes out 270 or something. The inside of the die could be rough from not being properly finished or rusted inside the die. I'm realy thinking about the lube though. Is it just difficult to enter the die or is it also hard to remove the case from the die?
bb

oneoldsap · July 13, 2010, 09:00 PM

Sounds to me like you need a different press , something with compound leverage !

June 29, 2010, 03:04 PM	#1
quillgordo Member Join Date: September 23, 2005 Posts: 41	264 Win Mag Sizing Troubles I purchased a 1963 Browning Safari. I tried new brass, and after one firing, it's hard as hell to resize the case. Is my chamber oversize? Is this a consistent problem with this cartridge? Thanks

June 29, 2010, 05:31 PM	#2
wncchester Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2002 Posts: 2,832	" it's hard as hell to resize the case. Is my chamber oversize? Is this a consistent problem with this cartridge? " No cartridge is consistently "hard" to resize but big ones require more force than small ones. No way do I believe there's anything wrong with that rifle unless it's been damaged. Even if the chamber is bulged it should be easy to resize the brass. You're asking a lot of us but giving us little to go on. Is your ammo factory or reloads? The brand of your dies doesn't matter but would you tell us what press and case lube you're using? Have you had any cases get stuck in the die and you pulled the rim off? Also tell us how you are defining "hard as hell to resize." I mean, will the cases not enter the die at all, or do they go halfway and stop, or do you get them almost all the way in and stop, or do you get them all the way in and out but the bullets won't go in or stay in, etc? Last edited by wncchester; June 29, 2010 at 05:37 PM.

July 12, 2010, 03:43 PM	#3
quillgordo Member Join Date: September 23, 2005 Posts: 41	Reply Thanks for the reply to my post. I have a bag of new never shot, brass. I lubed the cases with one shot, and then tried to size them. They will go in, about to the shoulder, and then you almost can't use enough force to size them. What I did was use a, quick, forceful stroke to size them. And somewhere around 15 or so, I broke the link on my Lee sizer. I have the O or D model, that is stronger than the open model. No way it should take that much force. Thanks

July 13, 2010, 01:07 PM	#5
WIL TERRY Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2000 Location: BLACK HILLS Posts: 1,322	I have owned two 264winmag rifles over the past 50 years. I have never had a problem FL sizing the brass for either gun. The RCBS A2 along with RCBS loading dies work just fine, than you very much.

July 13, 2010, 02:14 PM	#6
William T. Watts Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2010 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 1,074	one shot One shot case lube and a broken Lee Press should tell you that you don't have the right tools for the job. Nothing works better than RCBS Case lube-2 nor a RCBS Rock Chucker reloading press. Additionally nothing works better than good quality reloading dies I.E. RCBS or Redding or Hornady etc. I do have Lee's crimp die but other than that I use only the above manufactures products for dies etc. I hesitate to post this but I don't think you have the right tools for what you want to do. William

July 12, 2010, 07:15 PM	#4
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	This might be off base, but could it be the die and not the case?

July 13, 2010, 04:37 PM	#7
saltydog452 Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 2004 Posts: 516	Back when the Earth was flat, I used STP on a stamp pad with my .264 brass. Messy, but it worked then. I'd imagine it'd work now. Clean your dies. Ether works. Don't smoke if you are even THINKING about Ether. salty

July 13, 2010, 08:06 PM	#8
Buzzard Bait Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 502	something is wrong with this picture # 1 what are you using for lube? With the right lube you should be able to drive about any thing up that die. # 2 what does the case look like when you get it sized? does it change in size more than it should? Have you miked any of the cases after sizing? I once had a die that was missmarked, like goes in a 264 and comes out 270 or something. The inside of the die could be rough from not being properly finished or rusted inside the die. I'm realy thinking about the lube though. Is it just difficult to enter the die or is it also hard to remove the case from the die? bb

July 13, 2010, 09:00 PM	#9
oneoldsap Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2009 Location: I live in the foot of the Green Mountains of Vermont Posts: 1,602	Sounds to me like you need a different press , something with compound leverage !