WW231!!! Where are you????

l98ster · April 19, 2010, 11:54 AM

Hi everyone,

I am about at my wits end with trying to find W231. I have been looking for about 3 months, and cant find a single place that has it in stock. I am down to my last pound, and its going fast!!

Does anyone know of ANYPLACE that may have it???

-George

Lavid2002 · April 19, 2010, 11:57 AM

These guys have it local pick up only though
http://www.hitfactorshooting.com/pro...4?productId=22

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · April 19, 2010, 12:15 PM

Just in case you don't know, HP-38 is the same as Win 231.

Loader9 · April 19, 2010, 12:55 PM

Where do you live? I have a 3lb sealed can not doing anything as I don't use it. It would be a trade only face to face........if you live anywhere near San Antonio Texas or Laredo. I'll trade even up in weight for Unique or AA5, if that helps.

Nate1778 · April 19, 2010, 01:08 PM

They're re-labeling it as HP-38..........

Pathfinder45 · April 19, 2010, 07:34 PM

I've used both in .45 Colt. They meter through the powder measure identically, they shoot the same, they are the same. If I had both today I would mix them thoroughly to make one custom lot. Buy whichever is cheaper or available. It's an excellent powder that I no longer use because of so many choices that are also excellent. Still, if I found a killer deal at the gun show, I'd buy it and use it again. What are you using it for?

farmall · April 21, 2010, 10:56 PM

In MY basement!!

TXGunNut · April 21, 2010, 11:02 PM

Had the same issues finding IMR4350. Keep hunting!

jpdavis423 · April 22, 2010, 05:47 AM

FWIW: I got 8 lbs last week at Graf's. But - I had it on back order for 5 months.

Jeff

Fishslayer · April 22, 2010, 11:02 AM

If I was tryin' to find something I'd probly put up my location or somethin'.

Just sayin'...

hehe... found a # of it last week at Duncan's...

TimT · April 22, 2010, 10:48 PM

I just picked some up at Scheels.

TXGunNut · April 22, 2010, 11:01 PM

OP? Seems we might be better able to help if we knew where you are or often travel to.

l98ster · April 23, 2010, 12:05 AM

Im in Westchester County, NY. Willing to travel up to 3 hours for a large enough quantity (4-8 pounds)

Thanks...
-George

troy_mclure · April 23, 2010, 02:19 AM

seen it lots of places from ohio to louisiana.

gander mtn is the biggest place.

Yoosta B. Blue · April 23, 2010, 07:46 AM

I've also had somewhat of a difficult time finding 231. However, I've had no problem locating HP-38. On a quick trip to Arkansas for a funeral last week, I was fortunate to snag a lb. of 231 at a place north of Little Rock. Just keep looking... Seek and ye shall find.

Yoosta B. Blue

k9cougar · April 23, 2010, 11:50 PM

in Pierce county, wa. About a month ago you couldn't find decent semi auto powder anyway. Now I can find Power pistol, unique, universal, aa+5, aa+2, ect., but no dang 231, no HP 38. If you any of you Pierce County readers know of a place, please do tell.

Yoosta B. Blue · April 25, 2010, 01:49 PM

Loader9
stated

Quote:

Where do you live? I have a 3lb sealed can not doing anything as I don't use it. It would be a trade only face to face........if you live anywhere near San Antonio Texas or Laredo. I'll trade even up in weight for Unique or AA5, if that helps.

He's a long way from ya, way up there in New York. Since I am a San Antonio reloading enthusiast, I sent you a PM a few days ago... Thanks!

YBB

Peter M. Eick · May 1, 2010, 05:23 PM

Our local bass pro shops has a lot of HP38. I picked up a pound just to try out 231 (hp-38 in another name). Seems like decent stuff but nothing better then good old bullseye. They had a lot on the shelves last time I looked.

P5 Guy · May 1, 2010, 05:35 PM

$74 for four pounds. And they had a few one pound and another four pounder. One pounders were $25.

DocAitch · May 1, 2010, 07:58 PM

If I can't find W231/HP38, I use Clays which may be even better in the same calibers-.45ACP, .357 Mag(plinking loads), 38 Spec, 9mm Lug, 9mmMak.
DocAitch

zippy13 · May 1, 2010, 08:42 PM

Does this explain the situation…
From the Winchester Powder site:
"In March 2006, Hodgdon® Powder Company and Winchester Ammunition announced that Winchester branded reloading powders would be licensed to Hodgdon. Winchester Smokeless Propellants, the choice of loading professionals, are available to the handloader to duplicate the factory performance of loads from handgun to rifle and shotgun."

I just downloaded Hodedon's most recent Basic Reloading Manual, and from what I've seen, they list identical data for W 231 and HP-38. I suspect W 231 is hard to find because Hodgdon's marketing department is replacing it on stores' shelves with HP-38.

DaveTrig · May 3, 2010, 03:09 PM

Might be a dumb question, but have you tried Hoffman's or Cabela's in CT?

Also, Natchez currently has 4lb 231 listed as In Stock on their site. http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...0.231%20Powder

aerod1 · May 4, 2010, 10:17 PM

[QUOTE][Just in case you don't know, HP-38 is the same as Win 231/QUOTE]

There are other powders that are similar also. Is there a chart that would show powders that are the same?
Thanks

nygma · May 5, 2010, 08:13 PM

Here are the ones that I know of.

WW231 = HP38
WW296 = H110
WW760 = H414
WW540 (discontinued) = HS6

April 19, 2010, 11:54 AM	#1
l98ster Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2010 Location: Hopewell Junction, NY Posts: 454	WW231!!! Where are you???? Hi everyone, I am about at my wits end with trying to find W231. I have been looking for about 3 months, and cant find a single place that has it in stock. I am down to my last pound, and its going fast!! Does anyone know of ANYPLACE that may have it??? -George

April 19, 2010, 12:15 PM	#3
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	Just in case you don't know, HP-38 is the same as Win 231. __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

April 19, 2010, 01:08 PM	#5
Nate1778 Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Louisville Ky Posts: 312	They're re-labeling it as HP-38.......... __________________ "And finally, the Baby Bear looked and he said, "Somebody's sleeping in my bed, and the bastard's still there!" But Goldylocks had a Remington semi-automatic, with a scope and a hair-trigger!"

April 19, 2010, 07:34 PM	#6
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	W-231/HP-38 I've used both in .45 Colt. They meter through the powder measure identically, they shoot the same, they are the same. If I had both today I would mix them thoroughly to make one custom lot. Buy whichever is cheaper or available. It's an excellent powder that I no longer use because of so many choices that are also excellent. Still, if I found a killer deal at the gun show, I'd buy it and use it again. What are you using it for?

April 23, 2010, 11:50 PM	#16
k9cougar Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Posts: 74	can't find it here in Pierce county, wa. About a month ago you couldn't find decent semi auto powder anyway. Now I can find Power pistol, unique, universal, aa+5, aa+2, ect., but no dang 231, no HP 38. If you any of you Pierce County readers know of a place, please do tell.

April 19, 2010, 11:57 AM	#2
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	These guys have it local pick up only though http://www.hitfactorshooting.com/pro...4?productId=22

April 19, 2010, 12:55 PM	#4
Loader9 Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2008 Posts: 949	Where do you live? I have a 3lb sealed can not doing anything as I don't use it. It would be a trade only face to face........if you live anywhere near San Antonio Texas or Laredo. I'll trade even up in weight for Unique or AA5, if that helps.

April 21, 2010, 10:56 PM	#7
farmall Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2004 Location: Beatrice Nebraska Posts: 613	In MY basement!!

April 21, 2010, 11:02 PM	#8
TXGunNut Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: If you have to ask... Posts: 2,860	Had the same issues finding IMR4350. Keep hunting!

April 22, 2010, 05:47 AM	#9
jpdavis423 Member Join Date: September 22, 2007 Posts: 52	FWIW: I got 8 lbs last week at Graf's. But - I had it on back order for 5 months. Jeff

April 22, 2010, 11:02 AM	#10
Fishslayer Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2010 Location: San Diego, PRK Posts: 182	If I was tryin' to find something I'd probly put up my location or somethin'. Just sayin'... hehe... found a # of it last week at Duncan's...

April 22, 2010, 10:48 PM	#11
TimT Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 147	I just picked some up at Scheels.

April 22, 2010, 11:01 PM	#12
TXGunNut Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: If you have to ask... Posts: 2,860	OP? Seems we might be better able to help if we knew where you are or often travel to.

April 23, 2010, 12:05 AM	#13
l98ster Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2010 Location: Hopewell Junction, NY Posts: 454	Im in Westchester County, NY. Willing to travel up to 3 hours for a large enough quantity (4-8 pounds) Thanks... -George

April 23, 2010, 02:19 AM	#14
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	seen it lots of places from ohio to louisiana. gander mtn is the biggest place.

April 23, 2010, 07:46 AM	#15
Yoosta B. Blue Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2008 Location: Just a tad NE of the Alamo... Posts: 252	I've also had somewhat of a difficult time finding 231. However, I've had no problem locating HP-38. On a quick trip to Arkansas for a funeral last week, I was fortunate to snag a lb. of 231 at a place north of Little Rock. Just keep looking... Seek and ye shall find. Yoosta B. Blue

May 1, 2010, 05:23 PM	#18
Peter M. Eick Senior Member Join Date: August 4, 1999 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,991	Our local bass pro shops has a lot of HP38. I picked up a pound just to try out 231 (hp-38 in another name). Seems like decent stuff but nothing better then good old bullseye. They had a lot on the shelves last time I looked.

May 1, 2010, 05:35 PM	#19
P5 Guy Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,804	Lakeland Gun Show $74 for four pounds. And they had a few one pound and another four pounder. One pounders were $25.

May 1, 2010, 07:58 PM	#20
DocAitch Member Join Date: March 16, 2010 Location: North of Baltimore Posts: 60	W231 If I can't find W231/HP38, I use Clays which may be even better in the same calibers-.45ACP, .357 Mag(plinking loads), 38 Spec, 9mm Lug, 9mmMak. DocAitch

May 1, 2010, 08:42 PM	#21
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Does this explain the situation… From the Winchester Powder site: "In March 2006, Hodgdon® Powder Company and Winchester Ammunition announced that Winchester branded reloading powders would be licensed to Hodgdon. Winchester Smokeless Propellants, the choice of loading professionals, are available to the handloader to duplicate the factory performance of loads from handgun to rifle and shotgun." I just downloaded Hodedon's most recent Basic Reloading Manual, and from what I've seen, they list identical data for W 231 and HP-38. I suspect W 231 is hard to find because Hodgdon's marketing department is replacing it on stores' shelves with HP-38.

May 3, 2010, 03:09 PM	#22
DaveTrig Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Putnam County, NY Posts: 96	Might be a dumb question, but have you tried Hoffman's or Cabela's in CT? Also, Natchez currently has 4lb 231 listed as In Stock on their site. http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...0.231%20Powder

May 4, 2010, 10:17 PM	#23
aerod1 Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Garland Texas U.S.A. Posts: 734	[QUOTE][Just in case you don't know, HP-38 is the same as Win 231/QUOTE] There are other powders that are similar also. Is there a chart that would show powders that are the same? Thanks

May 5, 2010, 08:13 PM	#24
nygma Junior Member Join Date: October 28, 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 10	Here are the ones that I know of. WW231 = HP38 WW296 = H110 WW760 = H414 WW540 (discontinued) = HS6