High Prices Of Supplies

BIGR · July 12, 2007, 08:23 PM

I simply must have been asleep for the last year or so, because I can't believe some of the prices on the reloading supplies. I stocked up years ago and have not bought anything lately, but it seems primers have doubled. I suppose we can blame the war over seas for the increase.

castnblast · July 12, 2007, 09:59 PM

I haven't noticed the primers, just picked some up yesterday. they may have gone up a tad, but bullets are up 2.00-3.00 per hundred depending on the brand from this time last year...

Linear Thinker · July 12, 2007, 10:51 PM

Wholesale prices on primers have gone up 40-50% over the last year, at all the major distributors (RSR, Ashland, Jerry's).
Bullets, about 30%.
Powder prices are about same.
I cannot correlate it to anything else other than the sandbox action.
LT

**Unclenick** · July 13, 2007, 02:11 PM

Military orders for ammunition are up about 4 fold this year over last. Stocks must have gotten low. That is the cause of the primer shortage. Prices go up to prevent hoarding what remains available. That's actually a good thing, and the price should back off again when the military stocks are replenished. Same thing happened in the last shortage.

Bullet prices are up partly for the same reason, but also competition with China's exploding manufacturing and construction for basic metals has driven metal prices up considerably, lead and especially copper, included.

MrApathy · July 13, 2007, 04:27 PM

its inflation the dollar is at all time lows its value/purchasing power has been a steady fall for a long time.

get ready for another price hike in September if not sooner
also supposed to be some more bubbles in the economy bursting
and market correction occurring which could have pretty bad effect.

870pilot · July 13, 2007, 04:38 PM

just when i get back into reloading

up go the prices however, here's a bit of good news for those with .45 acp needs and the desire to shoot leadcast...

Lasercast is on sale at Cabelas... the 230grn RN, down to $61.99 from $65.99, plus $8.95 shipping.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...843&hasJS=true

i am sure you guys have bought cheaper bullets in the past but at today's prices, about 6¢ for a .45 projectile isn't a bad deal at all.

these bullets got a 4.9 out of 5 on the customer reviews as well

load up, Shriners!

crowbeaner · July 13, 2007, 09:37 PM

Funny how the drive-by media simply fails to report the drop in the value of the dollar on the open market, isn't it? I've been saying for years that OPEC and the big oil cos. aren't fools- they watch the value of the dollar and charge accordingly for gas. I hope I'm not the only one upset over the price of gas and the asinine cries of "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" we heard at the beginning of the sandbox foray. Where is all the cheap oil that liberals howled about? It sure as he** is not at the pump here in Clintonia. Reloading supplies are in the same boat. As long as Sens. Shumer and HRC have their way EVERYTHING is going to be in short supply or unavailable. It is simply another attack by stealth on the firearm owners. Who ya gonna call?

BIGR · July 14, 2007, 01:15 AM

I have noticed some of my regular suppliers are sold out of certain bullets and ammo. You guys must be making a run on it getting ready for the liberal assualt. Didn't this same thing happen in the early 90's ?

earshot · July 17, 2007, 04:11 PM

the bad thing is these prices didn't go up over a period of time they went up in one jump overnight. think brass,primers,and jacketed bullets are bad
check out factory ammo.

the gun control zealots have a new stragedy, price supplies out of this world.

629 shooter · July 17, 2007, 08:04 PM

Yup - the prices have risen quite a bit on the components I buy. So much so that I ruled out adding a .308 that I had planned for this year. The price of .308 match bullets was enough for me to stick with my .223s for now.

crowbeaner · July 17, 2007, 10:52 PM

I started looking over my jacketed bullets that I bought about 10 years ago just to see what I paid for them back then and the price that they are going for now just makes me shake my head. Some of them are 60% more now than they were. Example: 500 .357 JSPs I paid $25.00 for at the local gunshow are now $50.00 from Midway. That' 100% in 10 years. What is the rate of inflation? WOW.

Magdaddy · July 17, 2007, 11:08 PM

A local shop had a limit on the amount of primers that could be bought per month, but has recently ended. I shoot around 3100 rounds per month, so the cost of supplies versus the cost of factory ammo does'nt bother me. But when limits are put on how much and what I can buy... well. If I had to buy factory ammo I would only be able to shoot once a month.

SLOMountaineer · July 17, 2007, 11:30 PM

I purchased a boatload of .224 bullets by Winchester about 9 years ago for about $21/1000. Just sold a 1000 on eBay for $63.

intruder · July 18, 2007, 12:00 AM

The reason for the cost of componts going up is due to the fact that some metal such as copper zinc and lead have gone up to astronomicial levels, some as much as 700%. China is no longer exporting metals they are importing them. LME inventories have shrunk to levels were shortages are possible. It's the law of supply and demand. There is no plot against gun owners just business and economics.

Gila Jorge · July 18, 2007, 11:13 PM

Agree: and tried to order today a case of 45acp from Fiocchi and was told
or rather my club manager who orders directly from them...that maybe in
October they might have some...that they are running bxxxs to the wall right now and simply will not have any...the manager said he was having this kind of trouble on lots of items...including 9mm and 223 obvioisly...on and this is Ft. Bliss so they get government priority treatment also...but no cigar today.

Confirmed that Winchester is upping 15 percent in September...and that Walmart just upped their ammo about 10 percent over this past weekend.

Let the hoarding begin...primers are tough to get presently...stock up when you can....

Peter M. Eick · July 19, 2007, 08:00 PM

Guys, commodities cost more today. Be it oil, lead, copper or zinc. There is a huge demand for base materials in the far east and as long as China and India are industrializing and trying to move from 3rd world to 2nd world status, then we are going to spend a lot more on materials.

The bottom line is things costs more now.

So my suggestion is write your congressmen and senators. Ask them to allow the minerals industry to explore and produce minerals in the US again without the onerous to nearly impossible to meet environment, bio and arch rules that have been put up to stop us from producing the minerals you need.

Remember if you cannot grow it, you must mine it or it came from a mineral resource (like oil!).

alan · July 19, 2007, 11:16 PM

Seems to me that S & H (shipping and handling) is getting to be or has gottsen to be a major rip-off, or have I gotten a wrong slant. I know that fuel prices are up.

As to primers, garden variety Winchester large and small pistol, last summer they were running $73/sleeve(5000). This spring the same primers were $100.50, club prices, where the club is NOT marking anything up.

July 12, 2007, 08:23 PM	#1
BIGR Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: Mountains Posts: 1,385	High Prices Of Supplies I simply must have been asleep for the last year or so, because I can't believe some of the prices on the reloading supplies. I stocked up years ago and have not bought anything lately, but it seems primers have doubled. I suppose we can blame the war over seas for the increase.

July 13, 2007, 02:11 PM	#4
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,733	Military orders for ammunition are up about 4 fold this year over last. Stocks must have gotten low. That is the cause of the primer shortage. Prices go up to prevent hoarding what remains available. That's actually a good thing, and the price should back off again when the military stocks are replenished. Same thing happened in the last shortage. Bullet prices are up partly for the same reason, but also competition with China's exploding manufacturing and construction for basic metals has driven metal prices up considerably, lead and especially copper, included. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

July 13, 2007, 04:27 PM	#5
MrApathy Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2004 Posts: 529	its inflation the dollar is at all time lows its value/purchasing power has been a steady fall for a long time. get ready for another price hike in September if not sooner also supposed to be some more bubbles in the economy bursting and market correction occurring which could have pretty bad effect. __________________ Divided and conquered, Gripped by fear Wishful thinking that it can't happen here It's well underways but nobody knows A repeat of history, That's how it goes

July 13, 2007, 04:38 PM	#6
870pilot Member Join Date: November 29, 2005 Posts: 70	figures, but here's a deal just when i get back into reloading up go the prices however, here's a bit of good news for those with .45 acp needs and the desire to shoot leadcast... Lasercast is on sale at Cabelas... the 230grn RN, down to $61.99 from $65.99, plus $8.95 shipping. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...843&hasJS=true i am sure you guys have bought cheaper bullets in the past but at today's prices, about 6¢ for a .45 projectile isn't a bad deal at all. these bullets got a 4.9 out of 5 on the customer reviews as well load up, Shriners!

July 17, 2007, 04:11 PM	#9
earshot Member Join Date: June 8, 2007 Location: s.e. mi. Posts: 66	escalating prices the bad thing is these prices didn't go up over a period of time they went up in one jump overnight. think brass,primers,and jacketed bullets are bad check out factory ammo. the gun control zealots have a new stragedy, price supplies out of this world.

July 12, 2007, 09:59 PM	#2
castnblast Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2006 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 1,148	I haven't noticed the primers, just picked some up yesterday. they may have gone up a tad, but bullets are up 2.00-3.00 per hundred depending on the brand from this time last year...

July 12, 2007, 10:51 PM	#3
Linear Thinker Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2007 Location: Blue State, NE US Posts: 202	Wholesale prices on primers have gone up 40-50% over the last year, at all the major distributors (RSR, Ashland, Jerry's). Bullets, about 30%. Powder prices are about same. I cannot correlate it to anything else other than the sandbox action. LT

July 13, 2007, 09:37 PM	#7
crowbeaner Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,943	Funny how the drive-by media simply fails to report the drop in the value of the dollar on the open market, isn't it? I've been saying for years that OPEC and the big oil cos. aren't fools- they watch the value of the dollar and charge accordingly for gas. I hope I'm not the only one upset over the price of gas and the asinine cries of "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" we heard at the beginning of the sandbox foray. Where is all the cheap oil that liberals howled about? It sure as he** is not at the pump here in Clintonia. Reloading supplies are in the same boat. As long as Sens. Shumer and HRC have their way EVERYTHING is going to be in short supply or unavailable. It is simply another attack by stealth on the firearm owners. Who ya gonna call?

July 14, 2007, 01:15 AM	#8
BIGR Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: Mountains Posts: 1,385	I have noticed some of my regular suppliers are sold out of certain bullets and ammo. You guys must be making a run on it getting ready for the liberal assualt. Didn't this same thing happen in the early 90's ?

July 17, 2007, 08:04 PM	#10
629 shooter Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2002 Location: IN , USA Posts: 967	Yup - the prices have risen quite a bit on the components I buy. So much so that I ruled out adding a .308 that I had planned for this year. The price of .308 match bullets was enough for me to stick with my .223s for now.

July 17, 2007, 10:52 PM	#11
crowbeaner Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,943	I started looking over my jacketed bullets that I bought about 10 years ago just to see what I paid for them back then and the price that they are going for now just makes me shake my head. Some of them are 60% more now than they were. Example: 500 .357 JSPs I paid $25.00 for at the local gunshow are now $50.00 from Midway. That' 100% in 10 years. What is the rate of inflation? WOW.

July 17, 2007, 11:08 PM	#12
Magdaddy Senior Member Join Date: April 30, 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 127	A local shop had a limit on the amount of primers that could be bought per month, but has recently ended. I shoot around 3100 rounds per month, so the cost of supplies versus the cost of factory ammo does'nt bother me. But when limits are put on how much and what I can buy... well. If I had to buy factory ammo I would only be able to shoot once a month.

July 17, 2007, 11:30 PM	#13
SLOMountaineer Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2006 Posts: 238	I purchased a boatload of .224 bullets by Winchester about 9 years ago for about $21/1000. Just sold a 1000 on eBay for $63.

July 18, 2007, 12:00 AM	#14
intruder Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2006 Location: pa Posts: 128	The reason for the cost of componts going up is due to the fact that some metal such as copper zinc and lead have gone up to astronomicial levels, some as much as 700%. China is no longer exporting metals they are importing them. LME inventories have shrunk to levels were shortages are possible. It's the law of supply and demand. There is no plot against gun owners just business and economics. Last edited by intruder; July 18, 2007 at 11:21 PM.

July 18, 2007, 11:13 PM	#15
Gila Jorge Member Join Date: November 21, 2002 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 91	Agree: and tried to order today a case of 45acp from Fiocchi and was told or rather my club manager who orders directly from them...that maybe in October they might have some...that they are running bxxxs to the wall right now and simply will not have any...the manager said he was having this kind of trouble on lots of items...including 9mm and 223 obvioisly...on and this is Ft. Bliss so they get government priority treatment also...but no cigar today. Confirmed that Winchester is upping 15 percent in September...and that Walmart just upped their ammo about 10 percent over this past weekend. Let the hoarding begin...primers are tough to get presently...stock up when you can....

July 19, 2007, 08:00 PM	#16
Peter M. Eick Senior Member Join Date: August 4, 1999 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,991	Guys, commodities cost more today. Be it oil, lead, copper or zinc. There is a huge demand for base materials in the far east and as long as China and India are industrializing and trying to move from 3rd world to 2nd world status, then we are going to spend a lot more on materials. The bottom line is things costs more now. So my suggestion is write your congressmen and senators. Ask them to allow the minerals industry to explore and produce minerals in the US again without the onerous to nearly impossible to meet environment, bio and arch rules that have been put up to stop us from producing the minerals you need. Remember if you cannot grow it, you must mine it or it came from a mineral resource (like oil!).

July 19, 2007, 11:16 PM	#17
alan Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 1999 Posts: 3,847	Seems to me that S & H (shipping and handling) is getting to be or has gottsen to be a major rip-off, or have I gotten a wrong slant. I know that fuel prices are up. As to primers, garden variety Winchester large and small pistol, last summer they were running $73/sleeve(5000). This spring the same primers were $100.50, club prices, where the club is NOT marking anything up.