Blue Dot used at low temperature

jsflagstad · January 15, 2007, 08:50 AM

I am in the process of reloading some of the Lee 12 Ga. slugs that I just cast, and I have started with Blue Dot as it was one of the listed powders in the load data that came with the mould. I have heard on this forum that Blue Dot does not perform very well when the temperature drops below 30 degrees F. With that said, these will be used for deer hunting and up here in MN 30 degrees and colder is usually the norm for the deer season. Does anyone have any insight on this? Should I seek a different powder? My gun is a fully rifled NEF single shot with a scope.

Thanks,

JSF

HSMITH · January 15, 2007, 11:24 AM

Blue Dot gets really inconsistent in the cold. There are other powders that work a lot better.

jsflagstad · January 15, 2007, 11:33 AM

I have some Titewad on hand as well, maybe I'll look to see if there is a recipe for that. It is quite a bit faster so less would be required, causing the need for a spacer to be installed.

JSF

jsflagstad · January 15, 2007, 09:00 PM

Any other thoughts? Anyone? Anyone? Bueler?

Not all at once now.....

LOL..
JSF

snuffy · January 17, 2007, 02:38 PM

I'm doing research, hang on a sec.....---___ Whoa, just a darn minute, where do you see a blu-dot load?
My data sheet that came with my lee key slug mold, does not list blu-dot. ACC#5, Hodgdon universal, HS-6, and ACC#2 imp are all that are listed.

Now I've had this mold for------um maybe 5 years, could be mr. Lee came up with some new loads. I even looked in his "loading manual to end all loading manuals", he mentions the slug mold, why it's better than all others, then says follow the loading info included with the slug mold!!!!!!!!! Was he too lazy to look up that info, then include it in his super loading manual??? GRRRRR!

If you want those loads that are in my info sheet, PM me, I'll give them to you. Oh, which mold did you get, the 7/8 or the 1 OZ?

I also checked the slug loading manual put out by Ballistic Products, they don't mention the lee slugs in there either.

As far as blu-dot being tempermental in the cold, I've heard of it in reference to shot shell loads, most of it was caused by loading in hulls that had a soft crimp, or a loose wad. In other words, operator error!

jsflagstad · January 19, 2007, 02:01 PM

Yes, I guess when I heard of BD being tempermental in the cold, it was mentioned to be in shotshell and not metalic cartridges. But a slug is still a shotshell.

JSF

Poodleshooter · January 19, 2007, 02:43 PM

I've tried a Blue Dot recipe with Lee 1oz slugs.
IIRC,it was some ridiculously huge charge for a 12gauge load: 35+ grains or something like that,using a WAA12R wad.
I made the mistake of trying it with a Win 209 primer rather than the CCI 209M in the data,thinking I could get away with a cooler primer. I shot it on a cold,snowy day at the range. I ended up with a bore full of partially burned blue dot,and miraculously enough a slug poking just out of the end of the barrel. It was actually still encased in the wad and was about 1/2" out of the barrel.
I switched to Unique and Green Dot,accepting lower velocity promises for better,cleaner ignition with standard components.
I'd recommend that you ditch it unless you use CCI209Ms for every load.

January 15, 2007, 08:50 AM	#1
jsflagstad Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2005 Location: Up Nort Posts: 410	Blue Dot used at low temperature I am in the process of reloading some of the Lee 12 Ga. slugs that I just cast, and I have started with Blue Dot as it was one of the listed powders in the load data that came with the mould. I have heard on this forum that Blue Dot does not perform very well when the temperature drops below 30 degrees F. With that said, these will be used for deer hunting and up here in MN 30 degrees and colder is usually the norm for the deer season. Does anyone have any insight on this? Should I seek a different powder? My gun is a fully rifled NEF single shot with a scope. Thanks, JSF

January 15, 2007, 11:33 AM	#3
jsflagstad Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2005 Location: Up Nort Posts: 410	Titewad?? I have some Titewad on hand as well, maybe I'll look to see if there is a recipe for that. It is quite a bit faster so less would be required, causing the need for a spacer to be installed. JSF

January 15, 2007, 09:00 PM	#4
jsflagstad Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2005 Location: Up Nort Posts: 410	Any other thoughts? Any other thoughts? Anyone? Anyone? Bueler? Not all at once now..... LOL.. JSF

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January 15, 2007, 11:24 AM	#2
HSMITH Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2002 Posts: 2,019	Blue Dot gets really inconsistent in the cold. There are other powders that work a lot better.

January 17, 2007, 02:38 PM	#5
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 3,051	I'm doing research, hang on a sec.....---___ Whoa, just a darn minute, where do you see a blu-dot load? My data sheet that came with my lee key slug mold, does not list blu-dot. ACC#5, Hodgdon universal, HS-6, and ACC#2 imp are all that are listed. Now I've had this mold for------um maybe 5 years, could be mr. Lee came up with some new loads. I even looked in his "loading manual to end all loading manuals", he mentions the slug mold, why it's better than all others, then says follow the loading info included with the slug mold!!!!!!!!! Was he too lazy to look up that info, then include it in his super loading manual??? GRRRRR! If you want those loads that are in my info sheet, PM me, I'll give them to you. Oh, which mold did you get, the 7/8 or the 1 OZ? I also checked the slug loading manual put out by Ballistic Products, they don't mention the lee slugs in there either. As far as blu-dot being tempermental in the cold, I've heard of it in reference to shot shell loads, most of it was caused by loading in hulls that had a soft crimp, or a loose wad. In other words, operator error! __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

January 19, 2007, 02:01 PM	#6
jsflagstad Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2005 Location: Up Nort Posts: 410	Yes, I guess when I heard of BD being tempermental in the cold, it was mentioned to be in shotshell and not metalic cartridges. But a slug is still a shotshell. JSF

January 19, 2007, 02:43 PM	#7
Poodleshooter Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2000 Location: Floating down the James River in VA Posts: 2,599	I've tried a Blue Dot recipe with Lee 1oz slugs. IIRC,it was some ridiculously huge charge for a 12gauge load: 35+ grains or something like that,using a WAA12R wad. I made the mistake of trying it with a Win 209 primer rather than the CCI 209M in the data,thinking I could get away with a cooler primer. I shot it on a cold,snowy day at the range. I ended up with a bore full of partially burned blue dot,and miraculously enough a slug poking just out of the end of the barrel. It was actually still encased in the wad and was about 1/2" out of the barrel. I switched to Unique and Green Dot,accepting lower velocity promises for better,cleaner ignition with standard components. I'd recommend that you ditch it unless you use CCI209Ms for every load.