Miliary 9MM crimp ?

Fullauto60 · September 22, 2002, 04:14 PM

Hello all.
I stand the oportunity to get several thousand rounds of once fired 9MM brass but it came from the military. Very legal they must get rid of it some place. I was told due to the crimp that is used i can't use it for reloads. Does anyone Know if this is true?

Fullauto60 · September 22, 2002, 04:19 PM

I meant military on the subject

**Mike Irwin** · September 22, 2002, 05:23 PM

You can unprime it, but before you reprime it you must remove the crimp, either by swaging with a tool, or reaming the primer pocket with another type of tool.

All in all, it's a big pain in the butt.

labgrade · September 22, 2002, 06:52 PM

Too, check to make sure it's not Berdan primed. If so, pass on the deal altogether as that's not reloadable, per se.

Fullauto60 · September 22, 2002, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Too, check to make sure it's not Berdan primed. If so, pass on the deal altogether as that's not reloadable, per se.

Im not sure what a Berdan prime is.

schild · September 22, 2002, 09:49 PM

Berdan primer has two small flash holes instead of one large one, so are not considered reloadable. I use a Dillon super swage(about $70) to remove the crimp on military .223/5.56. I've yet to try it on 9mm and with so much 9mm around don't think I'd bother.

cheygriz · September 23, 2002, 04:40 PM

If it is American military, it is boxer primed, and is some of the very best brass that money can buy!!

Get a Dillon "Super Swage" tool, remove the crimps, and use this stuff for 20 or more standard pressure reloads.

W-W milsurp is all that I use in 9MM. It is all that I have used for over 10 years. Even loading +P, I generally get 10 or more reloads out of a case.

Is it a pain in the Butt? Well, yes. But then most worthwhile things are a pain in the butt to acquire. To me, milsurp is more than worth the small amount of hassle involved in swaging the primer pockets.

labgrade · September 24, 2002, 02:36 AM

Depending on what the brass costs will (maybe should) determine whether it's a "good buy."

Free? & many 1,000s? I'd probablly spring for the swagging tool - if nothing else just to have it.

Too, there's surplus brass about that's already been swagged that'll save you lots of time. Way cheap & even if you have to pitch 5% (a likelyhood), you'll still be ahead of the game - maybe & depending.

Gotta ask. How much brass you're to get for what $?

As an "economy thing" (as if reloading is

), may make a difference.

Fullauto60 · September 25, 2002, 04:56 PM

Again thanks for the info.

I have thousands of the stuff. All free. The military is not allowed to send it back to have it reloaded . so it goes out in town or to reloaders like me. Call it a perk. I still wish we shot .45ACP.
Plus tons of .223,5.56,7.62.
The way i look at it is i take it home and reload shoot it myself
and they have a more proficent shooter it's win win.
One more? Is 7.62 come out to .308 I should know but i dont.

September 22, 2002, 04:14 PM	#1
Fullauto60 Member Join Date: September 19, 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 15	Miliary 9MM crimp ? Hello all. I stand the oportunity to get several thousand rounds of once fired 9MM brass but it came from the military. Very legal they must get rid of it some place. I was told due to the crimp that is used i can't use it for reloads. Does anyone Know if this is true? __________________ "Well done is better then well said" Ben Franklin

September 22, 2002, 04:19 PM	#2
Fullauto60 Member Join Date: September 19, 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 15	I meant military on the subject __________________ "Well done is better then well said" Ben Franklin

September 22, 2002, 05:23 PM	#3
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,642	You can unprime it, but before you reprime it you must remove the crimp, either by swaging with a tool, or reaming the primer pocket with another type of tool. All in all, it's a big pain in the butt. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 25, 2002, 04:56 PM	#9
Fullauto60 Member Join Date: September 19, 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 15	Again thanks for the info. I have thousands of the stuff. All free. The military is not allowed to send it back to have it reloaded . so it goes out in town or to reloaders like me. Call it a perk. I still wish we shot .45ACP. Plus tons of .223,5.56,7.62. The way i look at it is i take it home and reload shoot it myself and they have a more proficent shooter it's win win. One more? Is 7.62 come out to .308 I should know but i dont. __________________ "Well done is better then well said" Ben Franklin

September 22, 2002, 06:52 PM	#4
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	Too, check to make sure it's not Berdan primed. If so, pass on the deal altogether as that's not reloadable, per se.

September 22, 2002, 09:49 PM	#6
schild Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 344	Berdan primer has two small flash holes instead of one large one, so are not considered reloadable. I use a Dillon super swage(about $70) to remove the crimp on military .223/5.56. I've yet to try it on 9mm and with so much 9mm around don't think I'd bother.

September 23, 2002, 04:40 PM	#7
cheygriz Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2002 Location: high up in the rockies Posts: 2,289	If it is American military, it is boxer primed, and is some of the very best brass that money can buy!! Get a Dillon "Super Swage" tool, remove the crimps, and use this stuff for 20 or more standard pressure reloads. W-W milsurp is all that I use in 9MM. It is all that I have used for over 10 years. Even loading +P, I generally get 10 or more reloads out of a case. Is it a pain in the Butt? Well, yes. But then most worthwhile things are a pain in the butt to acquire. To me, milsurp is more than worth the small amount of hassle involved in swaging the primer pockets.

September 24, 2002, 02:36 AM	#8
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	Depending on what the brass costs will (maybe should) determine whether it's a "good buy." Free? & many 1,000s? I'd probablly spring for the swagging tool - if nothing else just to have it. Too, there's surplus brass about that's already been swagged that'll save you lots of time. Way cheap & even if you have to pitch 5% (a likelyhood), you'll still be ahead of the game - maybe & depending. Gotta ask. How much brass you're to get for what $? As an "economy thing" (as if reloading is ), may make a difference.