Practice question

If you aint CAV..... · April 18, 2007, 10:19 AM

I am fairly new to the site and am here to learn, so here's my question. What are techiques are people practicing the most? and where are you looking to improvements? I am a Soldier so have access to highly trained people and stuff like that all the time. So i am curious where everyone is going for same type of stuff

mikejonestkd · April 18, 2007, 10:42 AM

Uncle sam can do a pretty good job of training you.

On your own time you can get training from many schools across the country - all depending on your particular needs.

Look at the ' sticky ' above in this forum under ' practice drills '

Samurai · April 18, 2007, 10:45 AM

My one piece of advise to a new shooter: SLOW DOWN.

Slow, well-placed shots are your bread and butter. No matter how good you are, no matter how much you train, a major portion of your training time should be devoted to single, slow, well-placed shots.

If you can shoot slow and carefully, and if you are physically comfortable shooting slow and carefully, then speed will be there when you need it. You shoot slow and carefully to train your muscles to recognize and feel comfortable in the positions they need to be in for accurate shooting. But, you don't train your body to be accurate at high speeds by practicing at high speed. Your body learns accuracy at high speeds by practicing at low speed.

Number one thing to practice: Slow, carefully aimed, well-placed shots.

mikejonestkd · April 18, 2007, 10:49 AM

excellent advice samuari and well spoken too.

Desert01 · April 18, 2007, 10:52 AM

Cav,

The Light Fighter's Academy back at Ft. Drum is about has good as it gets. The Infantry School and AMU are even refering units back to your home station. IMLARM is also availible in ATARRS for Active and Reserve units to go through.

I think the following that we used alot before I retired goes well with Samurai's comments:

Slow is smooth, Smooth is fast, there fore, Slow is Fast.

or

You can't miss fast enough to win.

See you when you get home,

Desert01

If you aint CAV..... · April 18, 2007, 11:53 AM

I have been thru IMLARM and spend lots of time with some pretty good sniper types like Boltgun. I shoot pretty well and m not a new shooter. I am curious as to what the "otherside" does. I mean we have specific goals and tasks at the range or school. Just trying to brew up some ideas on what everyone does with range time. I have seen lots of posts with lots of rounds down range. Just curious as to what skills those rounds are building.

Desert01 · April 18, 2007, 11:57 AM

Got it.

theinvisibleheart · April 18, 2007, 04:12 PM

Getting engaged in competitive shooting is one of the best way to build up skill level.

In addition to the stress factor, there is an exchange of ideas as to why certain method works better than other.

Supervised simunition training and hunting are other venues that add stress factor.

When learning new skill set, go at it very, very slowly at first to build correct muscle memory and then build speed afterward.

I would also add in air gun shooting and 22LR rimfire shooting.

Combine it with mental visualization training.

--John

boltgun71 · April 18, 2007, 04:47 PM

Prior to joining the military most of my range time was spent developing my marksmanship skills in NRA Highpower and Sporterifle Competition. Specifically working on my offhand shot. My theory being that by practicing and improving the offhand position, all the other positions will become that much easier with basics like trigger control highly improved from the offhand practice. Like was mentioned earlier I also practiced shooting slow. I was normally one of the last in my firing lines to finish. I would practice taking my time and making each shot count. That has helped me keep a level head and get where I am today. Since I have joined most of my personal range time has been testing handloads for my rifles and practicing long range shooting. Quite a bit of time has been spent practicing with my personal long range "sniper" rifle to improve my skills on my duty one. I dont get to practice as many alternate or speed drills with my M24. Most of my work time is spent gathering DOPE for extended ranges. I spend my personal time practicing the close range drills with the long gun, especially while hunting. Its great practice for quick shots and field expedient positions. Most of the people I spend range time with on the civilian side are normally trying to improve there marksmanship skills through some sort of competition or testing handloads for there rifles. For competition they are normally shooting to beat their last seasons or previous match score or beat there buddy next to them for bragging rights. Alot of people spend there range time just plinkin' or shooting with the family and friends also, like we'll be doing when we get back. Not many people at my clubs practice military/LE drills. A few practice speed drills with pistols, thats about all. Hope this helps a little.

Double Naught Spy · April 18, 2007, 06:17 PM

Shooting on the move, pistol, rifle, and shotgun, but not all 3 at the same time.

April 18, 2007, 10:19 AM	#1
If you aint CAV..... Junior Member Join Date: March 29, 2007 Location: New york Posts: 13	Practice question I am fairly new to the site and am here to learn, so here's my question. What are techiques are people practicing the most? and where are you looking to improvements? I am a Soldier so have access to highly trained people and stuff like that all the time. So i am curious where everyone is going for same type of stuff __________________ ........ You ain't Sh^T!!!!!!!

April 18, 2007, 10:42 AM	#2
mikejonestkd Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 3,717	Uncle sam can do a pretty good job of training you. On your own time you can get training from many schools across the country - all depending on your particular needs. Look at the ' sticky ' above in this forum under ' practice drills ' __________________ You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

April 18, 2007, 10:45 AM	#3
Samurai Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2001 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 901	My one piece of advise to a new shooter: SLOW DOWN. Slow, well-placed shots are your bread and butter. No matter how good you are, no matter how much you train, a major portion of your training time should be devoted to single, slow, well-placed shots. If you can shoot slow and carefully, and if you are physically comfortable shooting slow and carefully, then speed will be there when you need it. You shoot slow and carefully to train your muscles to recognize and feel comfortable in the positions they need to be in for accurate shooting. But, you don't train your body to be accurate at high speeds by practicing at high speed. Your body learns accuracy at high speeds by practicing at low speed. Number one thing to practice: Slow, carefully aimed, well-placed shots. __________________ - Honor is a wonderful and glorious thing... until it gets you killed! - Why is it that we fire 1,000 rounds and know that we need more practice, but yet we punch a bag 10 times and think we know how to fight? - When in doubt, train, train, train...

April 18, 2007, 10:49 AM	#4
mikejonestkd Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 3,717	excellent advice samuari and well spoken too. __________________ You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

April 18, 2007, 11:53 AM	#6
If you aint CAV..... Junior Member Join Date: March 29, 2007 Location: New york Posts: 13	I have been thru IMLARM and spend lots of time with some pretty good sniper types like Boltgun. I shoot pretty well and m not a new shooter. I am curious as to what the "otherside" does. I mean we have specific goals and tasks at the range or school. Just trying to brew up some ideas on what everyone does with range time. I have seen lots of posts with lots of rounds down range. Just curious as to what skills those rounds are building. __________________ ........ You ain't Sh^T!!!!!!!

April 18, 2007, 10:52 AM	#5
Desert01 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2005 Location: Castorland, NY Posts: 545	Cav, The Light Fighter's Academy back at Ft. Drum is about has good as it gets. The Infantry School and AMU are even refering units back to your home station. IMLARM is also availible in ATARRS for Active and Reserve units to go through. I think the following that we used alot before I retired goes well with Samurai's comments: Slow is smooth, Smooth is fast, there fore, Slow is Fast. or You can't miss fast enough to win. See you when you get home, Desert01

April 18, 2007, 11:57 AM	#7
Desert01 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2005 Location: Castorland, NY Posts: 545	Got it. __________________ Pro Patria "For Country" www.pro-patria.us (Material x Training)/Tactics = Mission Success

April 18, 2007, 04:12 PM	#8
theinvisibleheart Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2005 Location: virtual internet world with a Daisy Red Ryder, LOL Posts: 683	competition Getting engaged in competitive shooting is one of the best way to build up skill level. In addition to the stress factor, there is an exchange of ideas as to why certain method works better than other. Supervised simunition training and hunting are other venues that add stress factor. When learning new skill set, go at it very, very slowly at first to build correct muscle memory and then build speed afterward. I would also add in air gun shooting and 22LR rimfire shooting. Combine it with mental visualization training. --John

April 18, 2007, 04:47 PM	#9
boltgun71 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 547	Prior to joining the military most of my range time was spent developing my marksmanship skills in NRA Highpower and Sporterifle Competition. Specifically working on my offhand shot. My theory being that by practicing and improving the offhand position, all the other positions will become that much easier with basics like trigger control highly improved from the offhand practice. Like was mentioned earlier I also practiced shooting slow. I was normally one of the last in my firing lines to finish. I would practice taking my time and making each shot count. That has helped me keep a level head and get where I am today. Since I have joined most of my personal range time has been testing handloads for my rifles and practicing long range shooting. Quite a bit of time has been spent practicing with my personal long range "sniper" rifle to improve my skills on my duty one. I dont get to practice as many alternate or speed drills with my M24. Most of my work time is spent gathering DOPE for extended ranges. I spend my personal time practicing the close range drills with the long gun, especially while hunting. Its great practice for quick shots and field expedient positions. Most of the people I spend range time with on the civilian side are normally trying to improve there marksmanship skills through some sort of competition or testing handloads for there rifles. For competition they are normally shooting to beat their last seasons or previous match score or beat there buddy next to them for bragging rights. Alot of people spend there range time just plinkin' or shooting with the family and friends also, like we'll be doing when we get back. Not many people at my clubs practice military/LE drills. A few practice speed drills with pistols, thats about all. Hope this helps a little.

April 18, 2007, 06:17 PM	#10
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Shooting on the move, pistol, rifle, and shotgun, but not all 3 at the same time.