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February 17, 2015, 09:00 PM | #26 | |
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February 17, 2015, 09:31 PM | #27 |
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FireForged thanks for that started looking those up and the third one global TAC training group is led than 40 miles from where I live so I'm going check it out.
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February 17, 2015, 09:39 PM | #28 |
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Fireforged....So what is your plan....to let him come back with one or two of his buddies?
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February 17, 2015, 09:40 PM | #29 | |
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Do you really think that concentrating on smart-phones, gas pumps, or ATMs in public, or listening to music; walking close to cars, corners, alley openings, dumpsters, etc.; taking a long time to put things into or get into your car; and so in, on a manner that makes you vulnerable to violent criminal actor, is somehow a prudent way to live your life? Would you really rather expose yourself to the risk of having to draw, and perhaps use. a firearm timely, in the gravest extreme? Not I, thank you. |
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February 17, 2015, 10:17 PM | #30 |
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I think I opened a can of worms with this discussion.
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February 18, 2015, 01:14 PM | #31 |
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Another question I've been wanting to ask that I feel is related. I have heard a lot of people say they do this never heard anyone say they don't. Does everyone carry and extra mag with them?
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February 18, 2015, 01:25 PM | #32 |
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I am probably in the minority but I do not carry any extra ammo. If I am carrying a revolver I have got 5 shots and if I am carrying a pistol I will have anywhere between 7-13 ( typically), thats it. I concede that is probably a very marginal attitude but never the less, I can and do accept it. If I carried a firearm occupationally and had a duty to protect others, I would certainly carry extra ammo and probably a backup gun as well, but that is not my situation. I will say that carrying extra ammo is not a bad thing. Its just that carrying a firearm already stretches the limits of what I consider a acceptable inconvenience.
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February 18, 2015, 01:32 PM | #33 |
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I carry at least one reload, and more as clothing/circumstances allow.
I don't expect to ever have need of one, but it's a trivial adjustment to hedge against unlikely circumstances. If the "cost" (in terms of hassle) were higher, I'd likely not carry a spare. Sometimes it's an extra gun instead of (or in addition to) my primary. This is pretty typical for the "I have to be on the street in a big city" situation. There are very rare circumstances where I'd have only an LCP with 7+1 in the gun, and nothing else.
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February 18, 2015, 01:53 PM | #34 |
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I was just xurious. I havent got my permit yet so I havent been out in public but I kinda feel like carrying around the gun is going to be enough extra weight as it is. My firearm capicity gives me 15+1 so I feel that ought to would be enough.
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February 18, 2015, 04:57 PM | #36 | |
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February 18, 2015, 05:43 PM | #37 | |
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I would move to an area where I wouldn't need to be so paranoid; and there are thousands of those locales. |
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February 18, 2015, 05:59 PM | #38 |
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Defensive driving is considered "responsible" but apply the same logic to navigating public spaces on foot and its "paranoid".
Some would say that Defensive driving may be things like: focus, keep eyes moving, alertness, avoiding hazards, maintaining visibility, avoidance techniques, adapt to your environment, 2 second rule, routine scan and check in all directions. Is this paranoid?
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Most people do, however, walk to and from their automobiles and to and from restaurants, stores, and so on. That can take them past openings of alleys, corners of buildings, dumpsters, vans, and any number of other locations that can afford an attacker and his associates with opportunities for ambush. When it happens, with surprise and with explosive violence, the effectiveness of "skills/things...for preparing to defend yourself" will be markedly reduced. The defender needs warning, time, and distance. Quote:
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Think about it: do you really believe that a couple of criminals who are looking for someone to rob, or to car-jack, or to car-jack and kidnap and take someone to an ATM for money, would be inclined to hunt in bad neighborhoods, or do you think they would be more likely to try their luck in more prosperous areas? Quote:
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There is still violent crime here. There is violent crime everywhere. Some of the most heinous murders have occurred in places where "stuff like that doesn't happen here". You don't get to choose whether or not you'll be the object of some criminal's interest. Behaving in a sensible fashion to reduce the likelihood isn't dependent upon location. If someone thinks differently, they are engaging in pure fantasy.
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The likelihood of being a victim of violent crime, at least in any given time period, is remote. The problem is the severity of the potential consequences. In any event, carrying a gun is not and cannot be the most effective means of preventing death, injury, or kidnapping. One must start with avoidance, and take steps to put one into a position to be able to defend oneself effectively. Posted by FITASC: Quote:
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Try reading the entire post I posted.................
Argue all you want. SOME folks feel the need to carry a gun to their bathroom; I don't. Some folks feel the need to carry 2-3 guns and reloads, plus a knife, flashlight, pepper spray and also have a shotgun in their vehicle just to go out of the driveway; I don't. If where you live is truly that horrible, then you need to ask yourself why are you still living and going through those areas. Have fun, I'm done with this one |
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This seems to have run its course.
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