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Old August 19, 2022, 07:53 AM   #1
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Does TX honor other states CCW courses

I know FL honored my TN course, so when I was moving to FL I didn't have to take a class or a shooting test. But can I use my TN paperwork to get TX CCW?

I couldn't find anything online for that, but maybe someone here has experience. Just trying to save myself some time and money.
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Old August 19, 2022, 01:53 PM   #2
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But can I use my TN paperwork to get TX CCW?
No. However, Texas does recognize TN CCWs. You could use your TN for carry in Texas. https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/ha...ty-information

With that said, in Texas, you don't need a LTC (Texas CCW) to carry openly or concealed as a law abiding citizen.
https://www.austintexas.gov/department/open-carry

However, Texas does not give our a LTC just because you are qualified in another state. You have to go through the course (assuming the law hasn't changed in the last several years).
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Old August 19, 2022, 02:05 PM   #3
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No. However, Texas does recognize TN CCWs. You could use your TN for carry in Texas. https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/ha...ty-information
If I read the information I found on www.handgunlaw.us correctly, Tennessee does not issue non-resident permits. When pgb205 relocated from Tennessee to Florida, he became a non-resident. I think that means his Tennessee permit is no longer valid.

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With that said, in Texas, you don't need a LTC (Texas CCW) to carry openly or concealed as a law abiding citizen.
https://www.austintexas.gov/department/open-carry
I take this opportunity to, once again, remind everyone of the hidden danger in "constitutional carry": the federal Gun Free School Zones Act. That is a federal law that makes it illegal to possess a loaded firearm within 1,000 feet of any school property. The exception built into that law is a license or permit issued by the state in which the school is located. I am not aware of any case law that has established that no permit is considered to be equal to a permit.
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Old August 20, 2022, 02:27 PM   #4
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If I read the information I found on www.handgunlaw.us correctly, Tennessee does not issue non-resident permits. When pgb205 relocated from Tennessee to Florida, he became a non-resident. I think that means his Tennessee permit is no longer valid.
I don't think you did. TN most assuredly does issue non-resident permits, though they may not apply in this circumstance. https://www.handgunlaw.us/states/tennessee.pdf

I had assumed that since he still had a TN permit, he was back in TN. However, if we are assuming he is in Florida and as stated has a FLORIDA permit now, Texas does recognize Florida permits and Florida does issue non-resident permits.

Well, it isn't so much that Florida issues non-resident permits, but that to qualify for a Florida permit, you need to be a citizen and resident of the US and not necessarily the resident of Florida to get a Florida permit.

https://www.fdacs.gov/Consumer-Resou...y-Requirements
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Unless you are serving overseas in the United States Armed Forces, you must currently reside in the United States and be a U.S. citizen or deemed a lawful permanent resident alien by Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service. If you are serving overseas in the U.S. Armed Forces, submit a copy of your deployment documentation with your application. Those who are Resident Aliens must provide a valid Permanent Resident Alien card.
So the OP can come to Texas on a Florida permit and be just fine...maintaining the Florida permit.
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Old August 20, 2022, 04:39 PM   #5
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I don't think you did. TN most assuredly does issue non-resident permits, ...
You say "assuredly," but I'm not seeing anything to support that.

https://handgunlaw.us/states/tennessee.pdf

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39-17-1351 Enhanced Handgun Carry Permits.
(b) Except as provided in subsection (r), any resident of Tennessee who is a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident, as defined by §55-50-102, may apply to the department of safety for an enhanced handgun carry permit. If the applicant is not prohibited from possessing a firearm in this state pursuant to §39-17-1307(b), 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), or any other state or federal law, and the applicant otherwise meets all of the requirements of this section, the department shall issue a permit to the applicant; provided

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39-17-1351 Enhanced Handgun Carry Permit.
(x) (1) Any resident of Tennessee who is a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident, as defined by §55-50-102, who has reached twenty-one (21) years of age, may apply to the department of safety for a lifetime enhanced handgun carry permit. If the applicant is not prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm in this state pursuant to §39-17-1316 or §39-17-1307(b), 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), or any other state or federal law, and the applicant otherwise meets all of the requirements of this section, the department shall issue a permit to the applicant. The lifetime enhanced handgun carry permit shall entitle the permit holder to carry any handgun or handguns the permit holder legally owns or possesses and shall entitle the permit holder to any privilege granted to enhanced handgun carry permit holders. The requirements imposed on enhanced handgun carry permit holders by this section shall also apply to lifetime enhanced handgun carry permit holders.
But that wasn't really the question. The OP wants to obtain a Texas carry permit. His question is (I believe) whether or not he can use the same training certificate he used in Tennessee to apply for the Texas permit.

To the OP: Here's a link to the application for a Texas carry permit: https://www.dps.texas.gov/InternetFo...ms/LTC-78A.pdf

At the top of the second (Instructions) page, I see the following statement:

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Required documents to complete and submit for any condition of license applied for:
• LTC-100/LTC-101 Training Form (Received from LTC Instructor upon course completion). Active / Retired Peace Officers are exempt from submitting LTC-100/LTC-101.
This suggests to me that Texas requires you to have taken a course or class with a Texas-certified instructor, who will issue you the required form upon satisfactory completion of the class.
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Old August 21, 2022, 11:06 AM   #6
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You say "assuredly," but I'm not seeing anything to support that.

https://handgunlaw.us/states/tennessee.pdf
LOL, AB, it is YOUR link I am citing. It specifically says they will on page 6.

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Tennessee will issue Non-Resident Permit/Licenses to individuals who meet the qualifications as listed below.
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This suggests to me that Texas requires you to have taken a course or class with a Texas-certified instructor, who will issue you the required form upon satisfactory completion of the class.
As I have said all along. Basic CCW training from another state does not qualify you for a Texas LTC.
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DNS, are you referring to this?

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(r)(3)(C)(i) If a person who is a resident of and handgun permit holder in another state is employed in this state on a regular basis and desires to carry a handgun in this state, the person shall have six (6) months from the last day of the sixth month of regular employment in this state to obtain a Tennessee enhanced handgun carry permit.
That specifically applies to non-residents who are regularly employed in Tennessee. My impression from the OP is that he used to live in Tennessee, has permanently relocated to Florida, and is now seeking a Texas carry permit while he is a resident of Florida.

It appears that, unless he is still regularly employed in Tennessee, he is no longer eligible to hold a Tennessee carry permit.
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TN most assuredly does issue non-resident permits, though they may not apply in this circumstance.
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You say "assuredly," but I'm not seeing anything to support that.
If I'm not mistaken, you not only saw it, you also quoted it. As you have both now noted, the circumstances in this case may not apply.
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