S&W 1854 PCC - Page 3

Pathfinder45 · February 17, 2024, 10:26 PM

Hellcat1; your pictures are worth a thousand words....each! That's a nice rifle!
Gawd, I need to sleep tonight.....

Hellcat1 · February 18, 2024, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pathfinder45

Hellcat1; your pictures are worth a thousand words....each! That's a nice rifle!
Gawd, I need to sleep tonight.....

Haha! Thanks!

I must admit, I have very little will power, and occasionally some disposable income, so sometimes I also find myself lying awake at night thinking about something I "need" to help me sleep better. This rifle was actually one of those things. Yes, I could have taken some Unisom, instead, but what fun is that?!?

Frank

5whiskey · February 18, 2024, 08:26 PM

I just don't see how it can compete with this...

https://www.guns.com/firearms/rifles...-new?p=1156132

I dunno maybe I'm out there. No way I'm buying a brand new designed plastic stock lever for nearly 50% more than I would a wood and steel Henry. I'm with Bama, I predict a short production run. I don't think there's a ton of people in the new lever gun market that wants mlok mounting points on the stock, and are willing to pay a premium for it over a more traditional designed American made rifle. Like I said, maybe I'm wrong.

Edit: my link is to a 30-30 side gate, not really apples to apples. Still found one in .44 that is $300 less than that Smith

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024275282?pid=730982

taylorce1 · February 19, 2024, 08:17 AM

Maybe a short lifespan, maybe not. It's not hard to push a Henry to $1100+, just add a large loop lever and octagon barrel or make it out of stainless steel. If you get deluxe walnut on your Henry you're pushing $1800.

If you want the S&W stainless synthetic lever, I'd say it's priced at what the market says they cost. Considering a Taylors 1892 or Chiappa 1892 stainless rifles are over $1500. That puts the S&W in the midrange price point without going as cheap as Rossi, of which there have been numerous discussions on lately as well.

5whiskey · February 19, 2024, 10:40 PM

And to add, I know that there are "different strokes" and all. Read a pretty lengthy thread on AR15.com about the modern "tactical" levers and there are some folks all into them. While I don't see the appeal, I suppose others do. I still question whether there are enough of those others that are really interested in a "tactical" lever rifle. Maybe if it's CA, IL, or NY approved. I suppose I would consider something like the SW Lever before playing with 10 round fixed mag bullet button ARs.

rock185 · February 20, 2024, 06:35 PM

Certainly interesting, a lever action rifle from S&W. I like some of the features, i.e., stainless, curved grip & large loop, both side gate and mag tube loading, etc. I wish S&W well with their new rifle. I don't hunt or compete, so the PCC carbines are just enjoyable recreational plinkers for me.

I recently handled the new Marlin .357, the steel Henry .357 and the Rossi blue and stainless .357 carbines. All good looking guns, especially the Marlin and Henry. I didn't get to work the action on the Marlin, but both Rossi and the Henry functioned smoothly. The Marlin was $1299, the Henry $1085, the blue Rossi $725, the stainless $745.

Pumpkin · February 21, 2024, 02:17 PM

From what I have seen of the new Marlins, there is absolutely no way I would consider the S&W. I am by no means a Ruger fan boy (Old Dude) and in reality own more Smiths than Ruger or Marlins.
I do have an original S&W 77A .22 cal pellet rifle, and it does have a lever. Maybe their original lever gun

Rifletom · February 25, 2024, 01:36 PM

Well, Hellcat1 certainly got it right. No fuss, no muss; just a damn nice lever rifle.

Hellcat1 · February 25, 2024, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rifletom

Well, Hellcat1 certainly got it right. No fuss, no muss; just a damn nice lever rifle.

Thanks, Tom!

Frank

Adventurer 2 · February 28, 2024, 11:36 AM

I own a Henry Big Boy X in 44 magnum. A "Tactical" lever action. I mounted pic rail and Trijicon MRO and plan to get a suppressor. I see some similarities between it and the new S&W -- I really enjoy my Henry and believe I would also enjoy the new S&W.

Drm50 · February 28, 2024, 12:54 PM

I’ve sold off all my post war Marlins except a Marauder 30/30. I couldn’t turn down the offers. The newest was a late 70s 39M. I kept all my prewar Marlin & Win lever guns. I
may be hallucinating but these old Marlins don’t bring the prices that the JM Marlins from late 40s to Marlin closing. The pre crossbolt safety is small consideration now, compared to new guns. I’m 73 and I can’t abide the guns they are making today. The only reason the quality has fallen with prices going up is demand. There are more people that are willing
to pay more for less. Also younger crowd that doesn’t realize what a quality gun is. These new guns made with hi tech and modern materials have about as much character as an aluminum ball bat. A wood stock is just a stock ball bat.

February 18, 2024, 08:26 PM	#53
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,657	I just don't see how it can compete with this... https://www.guns.com/firearms/rifles...-new?p=1156132 I dunno maybe I'm out there. No way I'm buying a brand new designed plastic stock lever for nearly 50% more than I would a wood and steel Henry. I'm with Bama, I predict a short production run. I don't think there's a ton of people in the new lever gun market that wants mlok mounting points on the stock, and are willing to pay a premium for it over a more traditional designed American made rifle. Like I said, maybe I'm wrong. Edit: my link is to a 30-30 side gate, not really apples to apples. Still found one in .44 that is $300 less than that Smith https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024275282?pid=730982 __________________ Support the NRA-ILA Auction, ends 03/09/2018 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=593946 Last edited by 5whiskey; February 18, 2024 at 08:32 PM.

February 19, 2024, 08:17 AM	#54
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,249	Maybe a short lifespan, maybe not. It's not hard to push a Henry to $1100+, just add a large loop lever and octagon barrel or make it out of stainless steel. If you get deluxe walnut on your Henry you're pushing $1800. If you want the S&W stainless synthetic lever, I'd say it's priced at what the market says they cost. Considering a Taylors 1892 or Chiappa 1892 stainless rifles are over $1500. That puts the S&W in the midrange price point without going as cheap as Rossi, of which there have been numerous discussions on lately as well. __________________ NRA Life Member

February 19, 2024, 10:40 PM	#55
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,657	And to add, I know that there are "different strokes" and all. Read a pretty lengthy thread on AR15.com about the modern "tactical" levers and there are some folks all into them. While I don't see the appeal, I suppose others do. I still question whether there are enough of those others that are really interested in a "tactical" lever rifle. Maybe if it's CA, IL, or NY approved. I suppose I would consider something like the SW Lever before playing with 10 round fixed mag bullet button ARs. __________________ Support the NRA-ILA Auction, ends 03/09/2018 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=593946

February 20, 2024, 06:35 PM	#56
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,093	Certainly interesting, a lever action rifle from S&W. I like some of the features, i.e., stainless, curved grip & large loop, both side gate and mag tube loading, etc. I wish S&W well with their new rifle. I don't hunt or compete, so the PCC carbines are just enjoyable recreational plinkers for me. I recently handled the new Marlin .357, the steel Henry .357 and the Rossi blue and stainless .357 carbines. All good looking guns, especially the Marlin and Henry. I didn't get to work the action on the Marlin, but both Rossi and the Henry functioned smoothly. The Marlin was $1299, the Henry $1085, the blue Rossi $725, the stainless $745. __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

February 17, 2024, 10:26 PM	#51
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	Hellcat1; your pictures are worth a thousand words....each! That's a nice rifle! Gawd, I need to sleep tonight.....

February 21, 2024, 02:17 PM	#57
Pumpkin Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2020 Location: Seguin Texas Posts: 433	From what I have seen of the new Marlins, there is absolutely no way I would consider the S&W. I am by no means a Ruger fan boy (Old Dude) and in reality own more Smiths than Ruger or Marlins. I do have an original S&W 77A .22 cal pellet rifle, and it does have a lever. Maybe their original lever gun

February 25, 2024, 01:36 PM	#58
Rifletom Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Location: So-Cal Posts: 789	Well, Hellcat1 certainly got it right. No fuss, no muss; just a damn nice lever rifle.

February 28, 2024, 11:36 AM	#60
Adventurer 2 Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2006 Posts: 663	I own a Henry Big Boy X in 44 magnum. A "Tactical" lever action. I mounted pic rail and Trijicon MRO and plan to get a suppressor. I see some similarities between it and the new S&W -- I really enjoy my Henry and believe I would also enjoy the new S&W.

February 28, 2024, 12:54 PM	#61
Drm50 Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2014 Posts: 1,382	I’ve sold off all my post war Marlins except a Marauder 30/30. I couldn’t turn down the offers. The newest was a late 70s 39M. I kept all my prewar Marlin & Win lever guns. I may be hallucinating but these old Marlins don’t bring the prices that the JM Marlins from late 40s to Marlin closing. The pre crossbolt safety is small consideration now, compared to new guns. I’m 73 and I can’t abide the guns they are making today. The only reason the quality has fallen with prices going up is demand. There are more people that are willing to pay more for less. Also younger crowd that doesn’t realize what a quality gun is. These new guns made with hi tech and modern materials have about as much character as an aluminum ball bat. A wood stock is just a stock ball bat.