Lever action 223? - Page 2

chris in va · January 21, 2024, 11:43 PM

As a person that used to own an AR, I much prefer my bolt 223 CZ. It forces you to actually aim and hit your target, and if you reload it's fun to experiment with different bullet weights. I can pick off a golf ball at 300 yards if I do my part.

bamaranger · January 22, 2024, 12:10 AM

I own enough AR's to qualify as a fan, but....... Judging by the rate of fire of most AR shooters at the public range near me, and the amount of AR brass left on the ground (confirmed brass hog) aiming is indeed secondary to volume of fire!

Levermatics: the one I really want is in .256 Win magnum.
Henry Long Ranger: when it hit the market, just to run counter the black rifle craze, I thought I might buy one.....till I saw the price.....YIKES!

44caliberkid · January 24, 2024, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 44caliberkid

What would be nice is if Browning and Henry made a model of their rifles to use AR magazines.

Ask and ye shall receive. I was watching Shot Show videos this morning and Henry has a lever action that uses P Mags, with full floated barrel and threaded muzzle. Reporters trying it at the range loved it.

bamaranger · January 24, 2024, 01:50 PM

Cruising YouTube last night and yes, lo and behold, Henry has announced a version of the Long Ranger that takes AR mags. It is an unsightly thing, but there it is.

upstate81 · January 25, 2024, 06:55 PM

A better option to the lever gun is the remington 7615 pump chambered in .223. Troy industries also makes a pump that being an AR style rifle.

PatientWolf · January 26, 2024, 05:27 AM

Given a choice between the Henry and the Browning, I’d go with Henry 10/10 times. I had a B92 in .44 from ±1982 they no longer make and needed a part. Browning’s response was “We don’t support discontinued rifles”.
Although I’ve never needed it, Henry’s support is supposed to be second to none and I think they have excellent quality and workmanship.

bamaranger · January 26, 2024, 10:07 PM

Unfortunately, with vintage firearms "no support", is a common stumbling block. Same with accessories like optics. I've run into that with the Ruger Model 44 carbine, the old tube feed model. The Ruger 44 was produced up till 1985. I've got an Aimpoint 2000 with "no support" either, the 2000 model ran till 1989.
The mid to late 80's seem not that long ago to me, but apparently manufacturers have different calendars than I do. I read that parts are sold off to one outfit or another, and for a while "so & so" in Oshkosh has a supply, then it's anybody's guess.
Henry has parts, because their guns are all essentially of recent manufacture and still in production. Forty years from now, they may or may not have parts for say your "Homesteader", if they are in business at all.

January 24, 2024, 01:50 PM	#29
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,314	more Cruising YouTube last night and yes, lo and behold, Henry has announced a version of the Long Ranger that takes AR mags. It is an unsightly thing, but there it is.

January 26, 2024, 10:07 PM	#32
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,314	no support Unfortunately, with vintage firearms "no support", is a common stumbling block. Same with accessories like optics. I've run into that with the Ruger Model 44 carbine, the old tube feed model. The Ruger 44 was produced up till 1985. I've got an Aimpoint 2000 with "no support" either, the 2000 model ran till 1989. The mid to late 80's seem not that long ago to me, but apparently manufacturers have different calendars than I do. I read that parts are sold off to one outfit or another, and for a while "so & so" in Oshkosh has a supply, then it's anybody's guess. Henry has parts, because their guns are all essentially of recent manufacture and still in production. Forty years from now, they may or may not have parts for say your "Homesteader", if they are in business at all.

January 21, 2024, 11:43 PM	#26
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	As a person that used to own an AR, I much prefer my bolt 223 CZ. It forces you to actually aim and hit your target, and if you reload it's fun to experiment with different bullet weights. I can pick off a golf ball at 300 yards if I do my part.

January 22, 2024, 12:10 AM	#27
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,314	I own enough AR's to qualify as a fan, but....... Judging by the rate of fire of most AR shooters at the public range near me, and the amount of AR brass left on the ground (confirmed brass hog) aiming is indeed secondary to volume of fire! Levermatics: the one I really want is in .256 Win magnum. Henry Long Ranger: when it hit the market, just to run counter the black rifle craze, I thought I might buy one.....till I saw the price.....YIKES!

January 25, 2024, 06:55 PM	#30
upstate81 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2011 Location: NY Posts: 801	A better option to the lever gun is the remington 7615 pump chambered in .223. Troy industries also makes a pump that being an AR style rifle.

January 26, 2024, 05:27 AM	#31
PatientWolf Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Location: NC Posts: 947	Given a choice between the Henry and the Browning, I’d go with Henry 10/10 times. I had a B92 in .44 from ±1982 they no longer make and needed a part. Browning’s response was “We don’t support discontinued rifles”. Although I’ve never needed it, Henry’s support is supposed to be second to none and I think they have excellent quality and workmanship.