partridge on a handgun

salvadore · May 2, 2014, 10:54 AM

Does anyone know who could install partridge style sight on my Ruger flat top?

mete · May 2, 2014, 12:44 PM

Don't they know how to spell in Idaho ?

E.E.Patridge was his name .The sight goes back to the 1880s .He , for one first asked eye doctors how the eye worked before he designed the sight.
My favorite sight for rifles and handguns !! Square front sight usuially 1/8" and a square rear sight about 1/8"

Bart B. · May 2, 2014, 03:33 PM

mete, don't they know how to punctuate sentences in New York? There's no space between the last letter in a sentence and the period, question mark or whatever. And there's two spaces between the last character in a sentence and the first letter in the following sentence.

C'mon, now; read his sentences, get the message then get on with a polite American general English conversation style. That's "usuially" (usually) the best way.

James K · May 2, 2014, 03:39 PM

OK, play nice or I will have to send you guys back to first grade for remedial English.

Seriously, AFAIK, the sights on all Ruger handguns ARE Patridge sights, with a square top front and a square notch rear. Are you referring to adjustable sights or some other type of sight?

Jim

Bart B. · May 2, 2014, 03:43 PM

I've never seen a square notch rear sight on a rifle. Are they commercially available?

James K · May 2, 2014, 04:01 PM

Ooops! My fault, I was thinking of a Ruger flat top revolver.

Jim

Jim Watson · May 2, 2014, 04:16 PM

Well, the title is "partridge on a handgun."

As I recall, Mr Partridge not only designed a square post in a square notch, he included a slight draft in the sides and top of the post so as to present a sharp black edge to the shooter's eye. No chance of getting a glint off the side or top of the post. Good enough for a patent.

PATRIDGE, darnit. Stupid spell check never heard of a gunsmith, so we get a bird.

mete · May 3, 2014, 05:12 PM

I have a 1930s Mauser [ miniature M98] which has Patridge sights along with similar sights on a 1930s Fritz Langenhan . I learned to shoot with those .For me the best iron sight is the Patridge ,rifle or handgun. Second choice [rifle only] is the ghost ring .

The only black mark on my otherwise excellent education is a spelling class .It was terrible for all and invented by progessives [liberals].

Can anyone tell me what his E.E. stood for ? I've never been able to find out.

Polite ? That's what the smiley

is for. After all as a seasoned citizen I could have used

.

Jim Watson · May 3, 2014, 07:08 PM

Very interesting, my old Walther .22 rifle has a wedge shaped front blade, the "barley corn." And reversible blade U or V notch.

My Remington PA51 .380 had neat little miniature Patridge sights.

James K · May 3, 2014, 09:25 PM

I once tracked down Mr. Patridge's actual names, but I now can't find that info. If I come across it, I will post it.

I think he was the same E.E. Patridge who was Secretary of an insurance company in Boston in that era. The name was not uncommon in that area, but I doubt there were two men going by that name and initials.

Jim

salvadore · May 21, 2014, 11:24 PM

http://www.hverovhe.com/gold.jpg

Patridge huh? I actually graduated from Indian Harbour Beach high school in Florida so I'm going to blame them.

Anyway if you can open up the pic above, that is what I always thought was a Patridge type sight...without the gold dot.

mete · May 23, 2014, 08:29 PM

Yes that's a patridge screwed up with a gold dot ! I do have a patridge front sight with a vertical silver stripe in the center.

My FLZ rifle has a U and V on the reversible rear sight.

Jim Watson · May 23, 2014, 09:23 PM

A nearly flat gold bead on a post is a Call Bead.
If hemispherical, a McGivern Bead.

jimbob86 · May 23, 2014, 09:42 PM

I googled the Call Bead ........ and it was aparently invented by a Mr. C.C. Call .... E.E. Patridge .....I sense a pattern here .....

Chris_B · June 1, 2014, 07:11 PM

just for reference, my Ruger MKIII Hunter had a V notch rear sight.

And yes, I installed a Patridge type

May 2, 2014, 10:54 AM	#1
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	partridge on a handgun Does anyone know who could install partridge style sight on my Ruger flat top?

May 2, 2014, 12:44 PM	#2
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Don't they know how to spell in Idaho ? E.E.Patridge was his name .The sight goes back to the 1880s .He , for one first asked eye doctors how the eye worked before he designed the sight. My favorite sight for rifles and handguns !! Square front sight usuially 1/8" and a square rear sight about 1/8" __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

May 2, 2014, 03:33 PM	#3
Bart B. Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 8,927	mete, don't they know how to punctuate sentences in New York? There's no space between the last letter in a sentence and the period, question mark or whatever. And there's two spaces between the last character in a sentence and the first letter in the following sentence. C'mon, now; read his sentences, get the message then get on with a polite American general English conversation style. That's "usuially" (usually) the best way. Last edited by Bart B.; May 2, 2014 at 03:40 PM.

May 2, 2014, 04:16 PM	#7
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,555	Well, the title is "partridge on a handgun." As I recall, Mr Partridge not only designed a square post in a square notch, he included a slight draft in the sides and top of the post so as to present a sharp black edge to the shooter's eye. No chance of getting a glint off the side or top of the post. Good enough for a patent. PATRIDGE, darnit. Stupid spell check never heard of a gunsmith, so we get a bird. Last edited by Jim Watson; May 3, 2014 at 07:04 PM.

May 3, 2014, 05:12 PM	#8
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	I have a 1930s Mauser [ miniature M98] which has Patridge sights along with similar sights on a 1930s Fritz Langenhan . I learned to shoot with those .For me the best iron sight is the Patridge ,rifle or handgun. Second choice [rifle only] is the ghost ring . The only black mark on my otherwise excellent education is a spelling class .It was terrible for all and invented by progessives [liberals]. Can anyone tell me what his E.E. stood for ? I've never been able to find out. Polite ? That's what the smiley is for. After all as a seasoned citizen I could have used . __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

May 2, 2014, 03:39 PM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	OK, play nice or I will have to send you guys back to first grade for remedial English. Seriously, AFAIK, the sights on all Ruger handguns ARE Patridge sights, with a square top front and a square notch rear. Are you referring to adjustable sights or some other type of sight? Jim

May 2, 2014, 03:43 PM	#5
Bart B. Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 8,927	I've never seen a square notch rear sight on a rifle. Are they commercially available?

May 2, 2014, 04:01 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Ooops! My fault, I was thinking of a Ruger flat top revolver. Jim

May 3, 2014, 07:08 PM	#9
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,555	Very interesting, my old Walther .22 rifle has a wedge shaped front blade, the "barley corn." And reversible blade U or V notch. My Remington PA51 .380 had neat little miniature Patridge sights.

May 3, 2014, 09:25 PM	#10
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I once tracked down Mr. Patridge's actual names, but I now can't find that info. If I come across it, I will post it. I think he was the same E.E. Patridge who was Secretary of an insurance company in Boston in that era. The name was not uncommon in that area, but I doubt there were two men going by that name and initials. Jim

May 21, 2014, 11:24 PM	#11
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	http://www.hverovhe.com/gold.jpg Patridge huh? I actually graduated from Indian Harbour Beach high school in Florida so I'm going to blame them. Anyway if you can open up the pic above, that is what I always thought was a Patridge type sight...without the gold dot.

May 23, 2014, 08:29 PM	#12
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Yes that's a patridge screwed up with a gold dot ! I do have a patridge front sight with a vertical silver stripe in the center. My FLZ rifle has a U and V on the reversible rear sight. __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

May 23, 2014, 09:23 PM	#13
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,555	A nearly flat gold bead on a post is a Call Bead. If hemispherical, a McGivern Bead.

May 23, 2014, 09:42 PM	#14
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	I googled the Call Bead ........ and it was aparently invented by a Mr. C.C. Call .... E.E. Patridge .....I sense a pattern here .....

June 1, 2014, 07:11 PM	#15
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	just for reference, my Ruger MKIII Hunter had a V notch rear sight. And yes, I installed a Patridge type