My “COMBAT!” assortment

Classic12 · March 28, 2021, 09:52 AM

Whenever I posted my Tommy gun, references where made to “COMBAT!”, the 1960ies television series starring Vic Morrow as Sgt Saunders. I had never seen that series, guess it was not broadcasted in Switzerland (and I wasn’t born when it first aired).

Anyway I thought I’d check it out, and I am now hooked and 28 episodes into season 1 thanks to YouTube.

It also motivated me to find a nice M1 carbine (which I’ve already shown), and they are still quite cheap here in Switzerland.

Today was the perfect day to put my WWII US hardware together for a photo shoot.

The Thompson is a Savage made Auto Ordnance 1928 A1 made in 1941 and a British Lend Lease. It is GEG inspected.

The M1 carbine is an Underwood Elliott Fisher Company made in 1944 and it did not get the end of war or post war upgrades. It’s GHD inspected.

The Colt 1911 A1 was made in 1943 and GHD inspected

The Remington Rand is a 1943 made type II and is FJA inspected

The S&W Victory was also made in 1943, is also a British lend lease in .38 S&W and is also GHD inspected

I guess I really need a Garand now (and there’s a nice H&R for sale locally, although it’s a bit pricey).

And a BAR.

Nathan · March 28, 2021, 10:22 AM

Nice firearms....I love that show.

TXAZ · March 28, 2021, 10:26 AM

“GHD” /“FJA” inspected?

tangolima · March 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

Combat! is available here on netflix dvd. Have been watching several seasons. The next season is bubbling up my list.

I envy you in switzerland. I have my own collection of WWII arms. But the Thompson and BAR are not in it. Without full auto they are pretty much neutered. I can't afford the full-auto versions of them. Instead I have 2 M1s, a 1903, and a 1917, plus a few rifles from the other side of the conflict.

-TL

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Classic12 · March 28, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TXAZ

“GHD” /“FJA” inspected?

Ordnance Brigadier General Guy H. Drewry

Lt. Col. Frank J. Atwood, inspector for Ithaca and Remington Rand

Erno86 · March 28, 2021, 12:32 PM

To the OP:

That's a beautiful photo set of your WW2 collection.

The movie: "Last Man Standing," starring Bruce Willis, Christopher Walken and Bruce Dern, also has some nostalgic "Prohibition" fight scenes with 1911's, revolvers and Tommy Guns.

And, one of my favorite Clash songs: "Tommy Gun."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFHEuKkTa5k

dahermit · March 28, 2021, 02:04 PM

Did they have 30 round Carbine magazines in WWII?
I thought that 30 rounders were an M2, Korean War adaptation.

Classic12 · March 28, 2021, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erno86

To the OP:

That's a beautiful photo set of your WW2 collection.

The movie: "Last Man Standing," starring Bruce Willis, Christopher Walken and Bruce Dern, also has some nostalgic "Prohibition" fight scenes with 1911's, revolvers and Tommy Guns.

And, one of my favorite Clash songs: "Tommy Gun."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFHEuKkTa5k

Thanks. I think I saw this movie decades ago so I’ll probably have to watch it again.

I am a big fan of the Clash and one of my biggest regret was when they came to town for a concert and I was abroad on holiday. They separated shortly after and I never got to see them live

Classic12 · March 28, 2021, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahermit

Did they have 30 round Carbine magazines in WWII?
I thought that 30 rounders were an M2, Korean War adaptation.

My understanding is that they came with the M2 at the end of 1944. But I’ve been wrong before

105kw · March 28, 2021, 03:34 PM

My Dad was on Okinawa, running a AAF radio navigation sight.
He told me that he never saw a 30 round carbine mag. All the ones he brought with his carbine were 15 rounds. But Dad wasn't a infantry trooper.

Talking to several, sadly long gone veterans, some apparently got to the Army units towards the end of the war. Okinawa was mentioned, as was The Philippines.

tangolima · March 28, 2021, 04:31 PM

I befriended with a 90 years old army tanker in Europe during WWII. He told me they were issued Tommy guns in their tank. Never used them as it was awkward to get them in and out of the tank. He didn't like the 45 either. He got a German p38 from somewhere and kept it in his shoulder holster. He just picked up 9mm from here and there. Never had to shoot the pistol in anger though. It wasn't regulation weapon. But the officers just looked the other way. He was a corporal made sargent.

He never saw any tanker garand.

-TL

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rickyrick · March 28, 2021, 05:37 PM

I have nothing to add, but here to express my jealousy

FITASC · March 28, 2021, 05:54 PM

I am old enough to remember watching that show when it first aired; along with Rat Patrol, and the comedy Hogan's Heroes, it was a great time for TV

NHSHOOTER · March 28, 2021, 05:54 PM

I watched combat as a little kid, loved that show, always wanted to shoot a BAR..I envy you your collection..well done and enjoy the show..

jonnyc · March 28, 2021, 07:39 PM

As above...you still need a BAR, and a Garand!
Now...to the German list!

rc · March 29, 2021, 12:33 AM

Here the Thompson would probably cost more than $20,000 for a transferable one. M1 Carbines are around $1000 and so are many of the worn 1911s up to $5000 or even $10,000 for a particularly rare, nice example.

imashooter · March 29, 2021, 07:12 AM

Very nice collection OP. Yep, I was addicted to Combat. No doubt it greatly influenced me. Of course I had this set from Mattel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqd5EQXD-g

stagpanther · March 29, 2021, 09:35 AM

I too grew up watching Combat--I saw every episode, though I can't remember them all. Two I do recall were "Hills are for Heroes" and "the sniper" as being exceptional.

jetinteriorguy · March 29, 2021, 03:53 PM

Nice collection, loved ‘Combat’ as a kid. Played a lot of army as a young kid in the early 60’s. I was the only one with a toy German helmet and an MP38. The kit also include spare mags in a holder and a ‘potato masher’.

bamaranger · March 31, 2021, 01:21 AM

Budda...budda.....budda!

cecILL · March 31, 2021, 06:41 AM

Very nice!
How about a "grease gun"?

highpower3006 · March 31, 2021, 07:33 AM

I kind of wish I had kept my M1 Thompson, but in a fit of stupidity, I sold it to fund other firearms. I did sort of replace it with a MP40 though.

Very nice collection you have there OP.

Classic12 · March 31, 2021, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cecILL

Very nice!
How about a "grease gun"?

Good point

Don’t see them offer for sale often here, and they are pricey considering the rusticity

Then there’s the Liberator, the worst money for sheet / stamp metal deal, pound for pound

T. O'Heir · March 31, 2021, 12:38 PM

You need an M1 Rifle. And no drum mag. 30 round Carbine mags were issued late in W.W. II.
Almost bought a BAR long ago. Had the money, but had just been laid off. Been crying ever since.

tangolima · March 31, 2021, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T. O'Heir

You need an M1 Rifle. And no drum mag. 30 round Carbine mags were issued late in W.W. II.
Almost bought a BAR long ago. Had the money, but had just been laid off. Been crying ever since.

In 2009 I was offered a M1A for $800. Damn good price even back then. I had been out of work for more a year. I had the money, but I just couldn't.

-TL

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March 28, 2021, 09:52 AM	#1
Classic12 Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2020 Posts: 696	My “COMBAT!” assortment Whenever I posted my Tommy gun, references where made to “COMBAT!”, the 1960ies television series starring Vic Morrow as Sgt Saunders. I had never seen that series, guess it was not broadcasted in Switzerland (and I wasn’t born when it first aired). Anyway I thought I’d check it out, and I am now hooked and 28 episodes into season 1 thanks to YouTube. It also motivated me to find a nice M1 carbine (which I’ve already shown), and they are still quite cheap here in Switzerland. Today was the perfect day to put my WWII US hardware together for a photo shoot. The Thompson is a Savage made Auto Ordnance 1928 A1 made in 1941 and a British Lend Lease. It is GEG inspected. The M1 carbine is an Underwood Elliott Fisher Company made in 1944 and it did not get the end of war or post war upgrades. It’s GHD inspected. The Colt 1911 A1 was made in 1943 and GHD inspected The Remington Rand is a 1943 made type II and is FJA inspected The S&W Victory was also made in 1943, is also a British lend lease in .38 S&W and is also GHD inspected I guess I really need a Garand now (and there’s a nice H&R for sale locally, although it’s a bit pricey). And a BAR. Last edited by Classic12; March 28, 2021 at 10:00 AM.

March 28, 2021, 10:26 AM	#3
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	“GHD” /“FJA” inspected? __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

March 28, 2021, 12:32 PM	#6
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	To the OP: That's a beautiful photo set of your WW2 collection. The movie: "Last Man Standing," starring Bruce Willis, Christopher Walken and Bruce Dern, also has some nostalgic "Prohibition" fight scenes with 1911's, revolvers and Tommy Guns. And, one of my favorite Clash songs: "Tommy Gun." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFHEuKkTa5k __________________ That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --- George Orwell Last edited by Erno86; March 28, 2021 at 12:54 PM.

March 28, 2021, 05:54 PM	#13
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March 28, 2021, 07:39 PM	#15
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	As above...you still need a BAR, and a Garand! Now...to the German list! __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details.

March 28, 2021, 10:22 AM	#2
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,333	Nice firearms....I love that show.

March 28, 2021, 10:31 AM	#4
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,828	Combat! is available here on netflix dvd. Have been watching several seasons. The next season is bubbling up my list. I envy you in switzerland. I have my own collection of WWII arms. But the Thompson and BAR are not in it. Without full auto they are pretty much neutered. I can't afford the full-auto versions of them. Instead I have 2 M1s, a 1903, and a 1917, plus a few rifles from the other side of the conflict. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

March 28, 2021, 02:04 PM	#7
dahermit Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Location: South Central Michigan...near Posts: 6,501	Did they have 30 round Carbine magazines in WWII? I thought that 30 rounders were an M2, Korean War adaptation.

March 28, 2021, 03:34 PM	#10
105kw Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2017 Location: Columbia Basin Washington Posts: 415	My Dad was on Okinawa, running a AAF radio navigation sight. He told me that he never saw a 30 round carbine mag. All the ones he brought with his carbine were 15 rounds. But Dad wasn't a infantry trooper. Talking to several, sadly long gone veterans, some apparently got to the Army units towards the end of the war. Okinawa was mentioned, as was The Philippines.

March 28, 2021, 04:31 PM	#11
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,828	I befriended with a 90 years old army tanker in Europe during WWII. He told me they were issued Tommy guns in their tank. Never used them as it was awkward to get them in and out of the tank. He didn't like the 45 either. He got a German p38 from somewhere and kept it in his shoulder holster. He just picked up 9mm from here and there. Never had to shoot the pistol in anger though. It wasn't regulation weapon. But the officers just looked the other way. He was a corporal made sargent. He never saw any tanker garand. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

March 28, 2021, 05:37 PM	#12
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	I have nothing to add, but here to express my jealousy

March 28, 2021, 05:54 PM	#14
NHSHOOTER Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2012 Location: Concord NH Posts: 1,002	I watched combat as a little kid, loved that show, always wanted to shoot a BAR..I envy you your collection..well done and enjoy the show..

March 29, 2021, 12:33 AM	#16
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,769	Here the Thompson would probably cost more than $20,000 for a transferable one. M1 Carbines are around $1000 and so are many of the worn 1911s up to $5000 or even $10,000 for a particularly rare, nice example.

March 29, 2021, 07:12 AM	#17
imashooter Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 395	Very nice collection OP. Yep, I was addicted to Combat. No doubt it greatly influenced me. Of course I had this set from Mattel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqd5EQXD-g

March 29, 2021, 09:35 AM	#18
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,792	I too grew up watching Combat--I saw every episode, though I can't remember them all. Two I do recall were "Hills are for Heroes" and "the sniper" as being exceptional. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

March 29, 2021, 03:53 PM	#19
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,176	Nice collection, loved ‘Combat’ as a kid. Played a lot of army as a young kid in the early 60’s. I was the only one with a toy German helmet and an MP38. The kit also include spare mags in a holder and a ‘potato masher’.

March 31, 2021, 01:21 AM	#20
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,313	Budda...budda.....budda!

March 31, 2021, 06:41 AM	#21
cecILL Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: central IL Posts: 769	Very nice! How about a "grease gun"?

March 31, 2021, 07:33 AM	#22
highpower3006 Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Location: Savannah TN Posts: 1,220	I kind of wish I had kept my M1 Thompson, but in a fit of stupidity, I sold it to fund other firearms. I did sort of replace it with a MP40 though. Very nice collection you have there OP.

March 31, 2021, 12:38 PM	#24
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	You need an M1 Rifle. And no drum mag. 30 round Carbine mags were issued late in W.W. II. Almost bought a BAR long ago. Had the money, but had just been laid off. Been crying ever since. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!