Preferred full size pistol, other than a 1911 - Page 3

scoobysnacker · February 18, 2016, 01:41 AM

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Too bad there's no way to try out a CZ75, a hi-power, and Beretta 92fs, maybe a 226 too, and see which one I like best. Those seem to be the top contenders by far.

Those are the best available going right now. I lack the Sig, but have the rest.
Basically, everything else will either be a clone of one of these, obscure, or out of production.

To help narrow it down:
Is steel frame important to you? Steel can be blued, parkerized or otherwise refinished, while aluminum can only be anodized maybe one additional time after the original. Of course paint (cerakote etc) can be done on all.
CZ 75 and Hi Power are steel, Beretta and Sig are aluminum framed (unless you want to pay a whole lot of money).

Double action important? It gives you the option to pull the trigger again on a light strike, in addition to carrying with one in the chamber. Hi Powers are single action.

Safety placement? CZ and Hi Power give you cocked and locked with controls the same place on the frame as a 1911. Beretta puts the safety on the slide, and it decocks. Sig has a decocker about where a 1911 has the slide release. CZ also offers a decocker model.

scoobysnacker · February 18, 2016, 02:03 AM

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I'm really surprised how many people endorse the beretta 92/M9. I had always heard of people grumbling about the M9 while I was in the army, not got to shoot one them myself as only the 240 gunners, commo guys and the 1sg had one. Accuracy of them was pretty impressive though. I may have to pick one up in the future, a few places online seem to get LEO trade ins that sell for about $300.

I'm quoting this due to price... the $300 mark is a nice spot for a used, premium brand.

If you search gunbroker, Cole Distributing (seller cdisales) often runs deals on Hi Powers. True Belgians are running about $400, you can sometimes find one less.
Currently he also has a few CZ 75's at or below $350. I recently purchased one, a pre B made in 1989 (rounded trigger guard, no firing pin block), for less than that (actually, less than that total for purchase, shipping, and ffl). The factory paint job is ratty, but the frame is parkerized under the paint, no rust. The gun was dead-on accurate, as good as my other pre B, 1-2 inch groups at 10 yards, standing up and just casually shooting, not from a bench and truly taking my time to get each shot perfect.
They placed the import mark on the barrel, on the left side. You absolutely do not see it until you strip the gun.

I know, for around that price you can get a new Canik, but in a couple years, you have either a used Canik, or a used CZ (which do you prefer

?)

Since the gun is all steel, in due time I plan on having it blued. It's my son's now, and I will be proud to fix it up for him.

CajunBass · February 18, 2016, 06:53 AM

Smith & Wesson's "K" frame revolvers. Which one really doesn't matter, but I suppose if I had to pick just one, it would be the Model 15, Combat Masterpiece.

For semi-auto's I don't have enough experience with any one to really have a "favorite." I did shoot a Colt Government Model quite a bit during my IPSC days but that's off the table.

Again, if I had to pick another one, I'd say Smith & Wesson's Model 39-2. But most of you young fellows have probably never heard of that one. I always liked the way that one felt in my hand, and it was a pretty good shooter.

**Mike Irwin** · February 18, 2016, 08:06 AM

Well, my S&W 4506, and my Browning Hi Power.

Then there's my P7PSP...

My Viz 35 Radom...

I prefer all of my full size pistols...

Independent George · February 18, 2016, 10:22 AM

I see a lot of justified love for the Beretta 92, but I actually prefer the Taurus PT-92 because of the frame-mounted safety.

I quite like Beretta, and the 92 is just a dead sexy handgun, but I find slide-mounted controls awkward to handle. This was my main problem with the otherwise excellent PX4.

Tactical Jackalope · February 18, 2016, 11:29 AM

HK USP 45 or 9
SIG P226
M&P 9L
Glock 17 or 34
HK P30L

**Mike Irwin** · February 18, 2016, 12:35 PM

For some time I had a Beretta 92, an early one with the frame mounted safety, which meant that it could be carried cocked and locked.

I finally decided that I needed to shed some of my 9mms to free up space for other guns in other chamberings, and got rid of it.

Still wish I hadn't, really.

NWCP · February 20, 2016, 05:32 AM

The HK VP9, USP40, or the HK P7PSP. They are all very easy to carry and conceal.

gyvel · February 20, 2016, 05:38 AM

Browning Hi-Power, because it fits my hand well, almost like an extension of my arm.

February 18, 2016, 06:53 AM	#53
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,652	Smith & Wesson's "K" frame revolvers. Which one really doesn't matter, but I suppose if I had to pick just one, it would be the Model 15, Combat Masterpiece. For semi-auto's I don't have enough experience with any one to really have a "favorite." I did shoot a Colt Government Model quite a bit during my IPSC days but that's off the table. Again, if I had to pick another one, I'd say Smith & Wesson's Model 39-2. But most of you young fellows have probably never heard of that one. I always liked the way that one felt in my hand, and it was a pretty good shooter. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

February 18, 2016, 08:06 AM	#54
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 40,674	Well, my S&W 4506, and my Browning Hi Power. Then there's my P7PSP... My Viz 35 Radom... I prefer all of my full size pistols... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

February 18, 2016, 12:35 PM	#57
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 40,674	For some time I had a Beretta 92, an early one with the frame mounted safety, which meant that it could be carried cocked and locked. I finally decided that I needed to shed some of my 9mms to free up space for other guns in other chamberings, and got rid of it. Still wish I hadn't, really. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

February 20, 2016, 05:38 AM	#59
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Browning Hi-Power, because it fits my hand well, almost like an extension of my arm. __________________ As always, YMMV. __________________________________________ MIIAA SIFE

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February 18, 2016, 10:22 AM	#55
Independent George Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2013 Posts: 573	I see a lot of justified love for the Beretta 92, but I actually prefer the Taurus PT-92 because of the frame-mounted safety. I quite like Beretta, and the 92 is just a dead sexy handgun, but I find slide-mounted controls awkward to handle. This was my main problem with the otherwise excellent PX4.

February 18, 2016, 11:29 AM	#56
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,407	HK USP 45 or 9 SIG P226 M&P 9L Glock 17 or 34 HK P30L

February 20, 2016, 05:32 AM	#58
NWCP Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2006 Posts: 1,903	The HK VP9, USP40, or the HK P7PSP. They are all very easy to carry and conceal.