Anyone use aa 9 for the 44 mag

KEYBEAR · January 27, 2017, 06:52 PM

I load a lot of 44 Mag lead and use Unique 10.2gr (starting load) 240 lead at 950 fps .
I have some AA 9 I would like to use up but the starting load for AA 9 is 18.2 a little to fast(1200 fps) for me . Dose anyone down load AA9 ?

SHR970 · January 27, 2017, 07:10 PM

#9 does not require a Mag Primer and it downloads better that W296. Been using it for over 20 years and three manufacturers.

Edit to add: When you get below #7 max. load levels it tends to get a bit less consistent so expect you E.S. to get larger.

KEYBEAR · January 27, 2017, 08:13 PM

Just seen in an old manual starting at 17.5 my newer manual 18.2 ?
I really have little faith in my newer AA Manual never did .
It lists AA 9 starting load at 21.3 and Max at 18.2 ??

THEWELSHM · January 27, 2017, 10:49 PM

Love AA9 mate

Thewelshm

TRX · January 29, 2017, 09:34 PM

I've loaded thousands of rounds of .44 for the Desert Eagle. AA#9 is by far the cleanest, and unlike many others, I don't have to go past the "maximum" column in the loading chart to make the gun cycle.

I tried more than a dozen powders before settling on that one.

rock185 · January 30, 2017, 03:13 PM

I have. The Accurate Arms pistol powders are favorites of mine since they flow like water in my powder measure, making consistent velocities and low extreme spreads, etc. more likely than with some other powders. They are also clean burning and low flash within my humble experience. I have used very little AA-2, but one characteristic I've noticed in using AA-5, AA-7 and AA-9 is velocities becoming less consistent and extreme spreads increasing as loads are decreased from maximum. This is just an observation and has not been an issue for me.

KEYBEAR · January 30, 2017, 03:15 PM

TRX I have used AA-9 before and yes it is clean . My question was/is not if it is any good I know it is the question is CAN IT BE DOWN LOADED .
I do not need 1200 fps loads to shoot steel targets .

In the 1980,s I shot a barrel out on a DE with AA 9 so I did use it before .

oldscot3 · January 30, 2017, 06:53 PM

I've used AA 9, AA 7, and AA 5 in my 44 mag.

A starting load of #5 under a Nosler 240 gr. jacketed soft point gives me about 950 fps out of my 5" m29 with nice accuracy.

Mike / Tx · January 30, 2017, 07:22 PM

Listed velocity in the load books is what they got with their barrel and components. Granted it still might be AA-9 that the data is for, but since you have no control over the barrel or test fixture used, your velocity may be slower or even faster than what they list.

I use a LOT of AA-9 but I do not worry about the velocity being anything other than what it is for a given combination. Sometimes it's faster, sometimes it's slower, you simply have to try with your components and see where your at.

As mentioned it will download to a degree, but you might as well simply drop over to AA-7 instead and you would probably be better off. Not to say #9 won't deliver what your looking for, simply that it might not be as consistent as mentioned above.

Just my .02 having shot it for at least the 20yrs listed above.

KEYBEAR · January 30, 2017, 08:33 PM

Mike / Tx Thanks
I have some AA 9 I need to load and use only to be used up (I will not buy more) . I load all my 44 Mag with Unique and it works well for shooting steel . I have 7/8 lb. of AA 9 and it has been setting around for a year or two . Also I only shoot 44 Mag and 44 Special and not much else .

pcxxxx42 · October 17, 2019, 01:08 AM

I have loaded #9 to max loads in Hornady JHP 240 gr and 300 gr for the Desert Eagle.

It is now my go-to load for 44 mag. It is not abrupt like H110/W296? longer, less peaky pressure curve (because it is not abrupt?)

Good velocity, outstanding accuracy.

I've about 12# of MIL SURP H110/W296 which I will use for 30 Carbine.

For the 44 mag, I'll be using #9 or 2400, both of which have much milder recoil.

I shotabuncha experimental #9 loads with the aforementioned Hornady 240 and 300 gr. in the Desert Eagle over the chrono. I had an audience behind watching me.

A while back, at Fish Canyon in Duarte, CA.

**Unclenick** · October 17, 2019, 08:38 AM

pcxxxx42,

Note that you are replying to a thread whose last post before yours was almost 3 years ago.

Sure Shot Mc Gee · October 17, 2019, 09:28 AM

Deleted due to threads age.

OldNick · October 20, 2019, 03:54 PM

Just because a thread is old doesn't mean the information therein is useless.

Replying to the thread may be futile, but the information is still good.

**Unclenick** · October 23, 2019, 10:22 AM

It can be, but when you post in what we call a zombie thread (old one brought back to life), you generally get fewer responses than you get starting a new one on the same topic and that means newer information that may have developed on the topic is less likely to be posted.

January 27, 2017, 06:52 PM	#1
KEYBEAR Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,059	Anyone use aa 9 for the 44 mag I load a lot of 44 Mag lead and use Unique 10.2gr (starting load) 240 lead at 950 fps . I have some AA 9 I would like to use up but the starting load for AA 9 is 18.2 a little to fast(1200 fps) for me . Dose anyone down load AA9 ?

January 30, 2017, 03:13 PM	#6
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,093	I have. The Accurate Arms pistol powders are favorites of mine since they flow like water in my powder measure, making consistent velocities and low extreme spreads, etc. more likely than with some other powders. They are also clean burning and low flash within my humble experience. I have used very little AA-2, but one characteristic I've noticed in using AA-5, AA-7 and AA-9 is velocities becoming less consistent and extreme spreads increasing as loads are decreased from maximum. This is just an observation and has not been an issue for me. __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

October 17, 2019, 01:08 AM	#11
pcxxxx42 Member Join Date: August 28, 2012 Location: In AZ, Where Free Men Live Posts: 51	#9 in 44 mag? You bet. I have loaded #9 to max loads in Hornady JHP 240 gr and 300 gr for the Desert Eagle. It is now my go-to load for 44 mag. It is not abrupt like H110/W296? longer, less peaky pressure curve (because it is not abrupt?) Good velocity, outstanding accuracy. I've about 12# of MIL SURP H110/W296 which I will use for 30 Carbine. For the 44 mag, I'll be using #9 or 2400, both of which have much milder recoil. I shotabuncha experimental #9 loads with the aforementioned Hornady 240 and 300 gr. in the Desert Eagle over the chrono. I had an audience behind watching me. A while back, at Fish Canyon in Duarte, CA. __________________ NRA & CRPA Life Member for over 35 years

October 17, 2019, 08:38 AM	#12
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	pcxxxx42, Note that you are replying to a thread whose last post before yours was almost 3 years ago. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

October 23, 2019, 10:22 AM	#15
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	It can be, but when you post in what we call a zombie thread (old one brought back to life), you generally get fewer responses than you get starting a new one on the same topic and that means newer information that may have developed on the topic is less likely to be posted. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 27, 2017, 07:10 PM	#2
SHR970 Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2011 Posts: 1,427	#9 does not require a Mag Primer and it downloads better that W296. Been using it for over 20 years and three manufacturers. Edit to add: When you get below #7 max. load levels it tends to get a bit less consistent so expect you E.S. to get larger.

January 27, 2017, 08:13 PM	#3
KEYBEAR Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,059	Just seen in an old manual starting at 17.5 my newer manual 18.2 ? I really have little faith in my newer AA Manual never did . It lists AA 9 starting load at 21.3 and Max at 18.2 ??

January 27, 2017, 10:49 PM	#4
THEWELSHM Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2015 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 236	Love AA9 mate Thewelshm

January 29, 2017, 09:34 PM	#5
TRX Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2008 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 400	I've loaded thousands of rounds of .44 for the Desert Eagle. AA#9 is by far the cleanest, and unlike many others, I don't have to go past the "maximum" column in the loading chart to make the gun cycle. I tried more than a dozen powders before settling on that one.

January 30, 2017, 03:15 PM	#7
KEYBEAR Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,059	TRX I have used AA-9 before and yes it is clean . My question was/is not if it is any good I know it is the question is CAN IT BE DOWN LOADED . I do not need 1200 fps loads to shoot steel targets . In the 1980,s I shot a barrel out on a DE with AA 9 so I did use it before .

January 30, 2017, 06:53 PM	#8
oldscot3 Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2007 Location: texas Posts: 997	I've used AA 9, AA 7, and AA 5 in my 44 mag. A starting load of #5 under a Nosler 240 gr. jacketed soft point gives me about 950 fps out of my 5" m29 with nice accuracy.

January 30, 2017, 07:22 PM	#9
Mike / Tx Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2000 Posts: 2,101	Listed velocity in the load books is what they got with their barrel and components. Granted it still might be AA-9 that the data is for, but since you have no control over the barrel or test fixture used, your velocity may be slower or even faster than what they list. I use a LOT of AA-9 but I do not worry about the velocity being anything other than what it is for a given combination. Sometimes it's faster, sometimes it's slower, you simply have to try with your components and see where your at. As mentioned it will download to a degree, but you might as well simply drop over to AA-7 instead and you would probably be better off. Not to say #9 won't deliver what your looking for, simply that it might not be as consistent as mentioned above. Just my .02 having shot it for at least the 20yrs listed above. __________________ LAter, Mike / TX

January 30, 2017, 08:33 PM	#10
KEYBEAR Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,059	Mike / Tx Thanks I have some AA 9 I need to load and use only to be used up (I will not buy more) . I load all my 44 Mag with Unique and it works well for shooting steel . I have 7/8 lb. of AA 9 and it has been setting around for a year or two . Also I only shoot 44 Mag and 44 Special and not much else .

October 17, 2019, 09:28 AM	#13
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,876	Deleted due to threads age.

October 20, 2019, 03:54 PM	#14
OldNick Member Join Date: August 1, 2018 Location: Out in the red dirt Posts: 26	Just because a thread is old doesn't mean the information therein is useless. Replying to the thread may be futile, but the information is still good.