Gun Show at the Hampton Coliseum

Doc Hoy · August 3, 2013, 05:09 PM

Two day event. I got there at about 11:00 am today, the first day.

Line for tickets was not long at all. Event hall was packed. The local guy who generally does the shows with ammunition and supplies was not there. He may be doing well enough out of his house that he does not have the stock for shows.

Georgia Arms and Ammo always shows up and they were the ones with most of the ammunition.

Bought the .44 Magnum dies I have been needing. Once fired .44 Magnum brass was 12.00 a hundred and .44 Magnum reloads were 25.00 for fifty. Picked up a bag of each.

Also bought a .45-70 trapdoor which the vendor was selling as a parts gun. I gave 60 dollars for it. It is largely complete but not in great shape.

I'll post some photos of it soon. This is going to be another carbine conversion. One of these days, I will have enough of these things that I will be willing to sell one.

Doc Hoy · August 3, 2013, 05:27 PM

This started life as a rifle. serial number is 18 XXXX

The rifle is largely complete.

Doc Hoy · August 3, 2013, 05:30 PM

This one is out of focus. One of these days I am going to figure out how to take photographs.

You can see that the stock has been unceremoniously sawed off.

Doc Hoy · August 3, 2013, 05:33 PM

The bore on this rifle appears to be a little pitted but the breach is in pretty good shape.

Doc Hoy · August 3, 2013, 05:43 PM

The rifle is missing the blade from the front sight. The barrel band is gone. You can see in the photo that it has a barrel band which was made up from a hunk of a brass pipe.

It has a Buffington rear sight but only the base of the sight is present. It still moves.

The breach block is missing the cam and thumb latch and spring.

The receiver is missing the extractor spring and plunger and the extractor is broken and needs to be replaced.

The hammer screw is missing.

It needs a new firing pin, but I made the last one and I think I can do that again. I am going to cut the barrel and so a new front sight will be part of that.

This is a two position tumbler and the lock appears to work perfectly.

Doc Hoy · August 3, 2013, 05:56 PM

If I buy everything from Al Frasca, it comes to 210.00.

MattShlock · August 3, 2013, 05:59 PM

Two position tumbler as in not:

Safety
Load
Full Cock

?

BerdanSS · August 3, 2013, 06:51 PM

Nice one doc. Wish I could find something like that around here. every time I see one some goon has it selling it as a priceless relic for $1000 +

Doc Hoy · August 3, 2013, 07:45 PM

Just half cock and full cock.

I had heard of these tumblers previously but never saw one.

TheNatureBoy · August 3, 2013, 08:46 PM

I was there with my daughter today. I went looking for a .243 Savage BVSS and didn't come close. Saw one table with a few reloading supplies on it. It was ok I guess. Don't feel like I wasted my $$$$.

North East Redneck · August 3, 2013, 09:06 PM

You got a great deal! Very nice price. Like BerdanSS says, everything around here is unreasonably priced. At least what I've seen.
Enjoy.

Bill Akins · August 4, 2013, 12:02 AM

If all it will cost you to restore it is $210.00, that's great. Then you'll have a nice piece without a lot of money in it. Can't wait to see the results when you finish it Doc.

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Doc Hoy · August 4, 2013, 05:58 AM

Saw a fellow with a youngster about eight or nine. Gentleman was about 6 feet 3 inches. Orange shirt.

Might that have been you?

Doc Hoy · August 4, 2013, 06:01 AM

I am hoping to turn this into one of those relics that I can get $1,000.00 for.

;o)

Doc Hoy · August 4, 2013, 06:04 AM

I have plenty of time to look for deals on parts on evil bay or GB

Got my eyes on two auctions on eBay that have the potential to reduce the cost a bit.

Doc Hoy · August 4, 2013, 06:06 AM

I took a real close look at the tumbler on the rifle and if you look very closely there is what could be the remnants of a middle stop on the tumbler.

I may be replacing the tumbler just in case.

TheNatureBoy · August 4, 2013, 07:26 AM

Naw. Wasn't me Doc. 5'8" and daughter is 15 yrs old

Tidewater_Kid · August 6, 2013, 07:59 PM

I would have purchased that for 60 bucks in a second. Good luck with your project!

TK

August 3, 2013, 05:09 PM	#1
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Gun Show at the Hampton Coliseum Two day event. I got there at about 11:00 am today, the first day. Line for tickets was not long at all. Event hall was packed. The local guy who generally does the shows with ammunition and supplies was not there. He may be doing well enough out of his house that he does not have the stock for shows. Georgia Arms and Ammo always shows up and they were the ones with most of the ammunition. Bought the .44 Magnum dies I have been needing. Once fired .44 Magnum brass was 12.00 a hundred and .44 Magnum reloads were 25.00 for fifty. Picked up a bag of each. Also bought a .45-70 trapdoor which the vendor was selling as a parts gun. I gave 60 dollars for it. It is largely complete but not in great shape. I'll post some photos of it soon. This is going to be another carbine conversion. One of these days, I will have enough of these things that I will be willing to sell one. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 3, 2013, 05:27 PM	#2
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Some photos of the latest trapdoor This started life as a rifle. serial number is 18 XXXX The rifle is largely complete. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 3, 2013, 05:30 PM	#3
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Some more photos This one is out of focus. One of these days I am going to figure out how to take photographs. You can see that the stock has been unceremoniously sawed off. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 3, 2013, 05:33 PM	#4
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Last two The bore on this rifle appears to be a little pitted but the breach is in pretty good shape. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 3, 2013, 05:43 PM	#5
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	There are several parts that are missing The rifle is missing the blade from the front sight. The barrel band is gone. You can see in the photo that it has a barrel band which was made up from a hunk of a brass pipe. It has a Buffington rear sight but only the base of the sight is present. It still moves. The breach block is missing the cam and thumb latch and spring. The receiver is missing the extractor spring and plunger and the extractor is broken and needs to be replaced. The hammer screw is missing. It needs a new firing pin, but I made the last one and I think I can do that again. I am going to cut the barrel and so a new front sight will be part of that. This is a two position tumbler and the lock appears to work perfectly. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 3, 2013, 05:56 PM	#6
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Just totalled up all of the parts If I buy everything from Al Frasca, it comes to 210.00. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 3, 2013, 05:59 PM	#7
MattShlock Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2013 Posts: 251	Two position tumbler as in not: Safety Load Full Cock ?

August 3, 2013, 06:51 PM	#8
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	Nice one doc. Wish I could find something like that around here. every time I see one some goon has it selling it as a priceless relic for $1000 +

August 3, 2013, 07:45 PM	#9
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Nope.... Just half cock and full cock. I had heard of these tumblers previously but never saw one. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 3, 2013, 08:46 PM	#10
TheNatureBoy Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Posts: 1,204	I was there with my daughter today. I went looking for a .243 Savage BVSS and didn't come close. Saw one table with a few reloading supplies on it. It was ok I guess. Don't feel like I wasted my $$$$.

August 3, 2013, 09:06 PM	#11
North East Redneck Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2012 Location: Berkshire Hills Posts: 741	You got a great deal! Very nice price. Like BerdanSS says, everything around here is unreasonably priced. At least what I've seen. Enjoy. __________________ NRA Patron Member SAF Life Member GOAL Member

August 4, 2013, 12:02 AM	#12
Bill Akins Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2007 Location: Hudson, Florida Posts: 1,135	If all it will cost you to restore it is $210.00, that's great. Then you'll have a nice piece without a lot of money in it. Can't wait to see the results when you finish it Doc. . __________________ "This is my Remy and this is my Colt. Remy loads easy and topstrap strong, Colt balances better and never feels wrong. A repro black powder revolver gun, they smoke and shoot lead and give me much fun. I can't figure out which one I like better, they're both fine revolvers that fit in my leather". "To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target".

August 4, 2013, 05:58 AM	#13
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Nature boy... Saw a fellow with a youngster about eight or nine. Gentleman was about 6 feet 3 inches. Orange shirt. Might that have been you? __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 4, 2013, 06:01 AM	#14
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Berdan.... I am hoping to turn this into one of those relics that I can get $1,000.00 for. ;o) __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 4, 2013, 06:04 AM	#15
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Bill... I have plenty of time to look for deals on parts on evil bay or GB Got my eyes on two auctions on eBay that have the potential to reduce the cost a bit. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 4, 2013, 06:06 AM	#16
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Mattshlock et al.... I took a real close look at the tumbler on the rifle and if you look very closely there is what could be the remnants of a middle stop on the tumbler. I may be replacing the tumbler just in case. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. Last edited by Doc Hoy; August 4, 2013 at 06:29 AM.

August 4, 2013, 07:26 AM	#17
TheNatureBoy Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Posts: 1,204	Naw. Wasn't me Doc. 5'8" and daughter is 15 yrs old

August 6, 2013, 07:59 PM	#18
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 926	I would have purchased that for 60 bucks in a second. Good luck with your project! TK