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Old August 3, 2013, 04:09 PM   #1
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Gun Show at the Hampton Coliseum

Two day event. I got there at about 11:00 am today, the first day.

Line for tickets was not long at all. Event hall was packed. The local guy who generally does the shows with ammunition and supplies was not there. He may be doing well enough out of his house that he does not have the stock for shows.

Georgia Arms and Ammo always shows up and they were the ones with most of the ammunition.

Bought the .44 Magnum dies I have been needing. Once fired .44 Magnum brass was 12.00 a hundred and .44 Magnum reloads were 25.00 for fifty. Picked up a bag of each.

Also bought a .45-70 trapdoor which the vendor was selling as a parts gun. I gave 60 dollars for it. It is largely complete but not in great shape.

I'll post some photos of it soon. This is going to be another carbine conversion. One of these days, I will have enough of these things that I will be willing to sell one.
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Old August 3, 2013, 04:27 PM   #2
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Some photos of the latest trapdoor

This started life as a rifle. serial number is 18 XXXX





The rifle is largely complete.

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Old August 3, 2013, 04:30 PM   #3
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Some more photos

This one is out of focus. One of these days I am going to figure out how to take photographs.



You can see that the stock has been unceremoniously sawed off.




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Old August 3, 2013, 04:33 PM   #4
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The bore on this rifle appears to be a little pitted but the breach is in pretty good shape.




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Old August 3, 2013, 04:43 PM   #5
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There are several parts that are missing

The rifle is missing the blade from the front sight. The barrel band is gone. You can see in the photo that it has a barrel band which was made up from a hunk of a brass pipe.

It has a Buffington rear sight but only the base of the sight is present. It still moves.

The breach block is missing the cam and thumb latch and spring.

The receiver is missing the extractor spring and plunger and the extractor is broken and needs to be replaced.

The hammer screw is missing.

It needs a new firing pin, but I made the last one and I think I can do that again. I am going to cut the barrel and so a new front sight will be part of that.

This is a two position tumbler and the lock appears to work perfectly.
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Old August 3, 2013, 04:56 PM   #6
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Just totalled up all of the parts

If I buy everything from Al Frasca, it comes to 210.00.
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Old August 3, 2013, 04:59 PM   #7
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Two position tumbler as in not:
  1. Safety
  2. Load
  3. Full Cock
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Old August 3, 2013, 05:51 PM   #8
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Nice one doc. Wish I could find something like that around here. every time I see one some goon has it selling it as a priceless relic for $1000 +
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Nope....

Just half cock and full cock.

I had heard of these tumblers previously but never saw one.
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I was there with my daughter today. I went looking for a .243 Savage BVSS and didn't come close. Saw one table with a few reloading supplies on it. It was ok I guess. Don't feel like I wasted my $$$$.
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Old August 3, 2013, 08:06 PM   #11
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You got a great deal! Very nice price. Like BerdanSS says, everything around here is unreasonably priced. At least what I've seen.
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Old August 3, 2013, 11:02 PM   #12
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If all it will cost you to restore it is $210.00, that's great. Then you'll have a nice piece without a lot of money in it. Can't wait to see the results when you finish it Doc.



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Nature boy...

Saw a fellow with a youngster about eight or nine. Gentleman was about 6 feet 3 inches. Orange shirt.

Might that have been you?
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Berdan....

I am hoping to turn this into one of those relics that I can get $1,000.00 for.




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Bill...

I have plenty of time to look for deals on parts on evil bay or GB

Got my eyes on two auctions on eBay that have the potential to reduce the cost a bit.
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Mattshlock et al....

I took a real close look at the tumbler on the rifle and if you look very closely there is what could be the remnants of a middle stop on the tumbler.

I may be replacing the tumbler just in case.
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Naw. Wasn't me Doc. 5'8" and daughter is 15 yrs old
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I would have purchased that for 60 bucks in a second. Good luck with your project!

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