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Old December 4, 2021, 09:47 AM   #1
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Smith & Wesson 686 plus 4" barrel

Well guys, I can say that I FINALLY purchased a brand new 686! I've waited a very long time and I am very pleased. I love the look, feel and finish of this beast. I have not taken it to the range yet but I have shot these guns before and loved the performance. I would like to add sexy wood grips and maybe fiber sights. I'm shopping for an OWB holster/belt to match. I like 1791 Gunleather's products. I have one of theirs for my IWB EDC and like it pretty good. Here are the pictures of my new addition.

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Old December 4, 2021, 12:23 PM   #2
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I noticed it's a "plus". The 4" are nice guns......I have standard and a"plus" myself. Enjoy and shoot safe.
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Old December 5, 2021, 12:35 PM   #3
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I have a plus and a 586 that just holds six. I guess I prefer the 586 for shooting tho the plus might be handy as a carry gun. My plus has the Hogue rubber grips on it, they work fine. I bought a 617 and a 629 and I replaced the grips with Hogue wood grips, they have several different styles, the new rubber that S&W uses don't work for me at all. Guns seem to kick harder and I can't reach the trigger for a good D/A pull.
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Old December 7, 2021, 09:06 PM   #4
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686's

I love 686's. I have three (all bought new). My 4" is not a "Plus." It's from 1986 - took ownership on 6/6/86 . Probably my favorite gun - and I have more guns than fingers n toes.

My 3" is a "Plus." I got it on an impulse buy in 2014. I carry it when the weather is cool enough to layer up a windbreaker for concealment (OWB - my "spare tire" won't allow IWB).

My other 686 is the first one I got - an 8-3/8" from 1984. It was part of "the recall" (I didn't even know about the recall until 2012 or so) but I never sent it in for "correction."
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Old December 8, 2021, 07:26 AM   #5
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I've never cared much for the 5/686 guns for some reason, but I think I could learn to like one like that.

Congratulations. Enjoy it.
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Old December 9, 2021, 01:51 AM   #6
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The original L frames were decent .357s. Can't speak to any of the newer guns from personal experience, sorry.

I thought S&W got the weight right for magnum shooting, L frames weigh the same as N frames of the same barrel length, thanks to the underlug.

However, that same underlug was what killed them for me, because I don't like the way they balance in my hand. Its a completely personal matter, and no slam against the gun in any way. They just don't feel right to me.

Other folks love them, and thats great. My experience is that if a gun doesn't feel right in my hand, its more difficult to shoot it well.

Enjoy yours, it should be a fine gun. I hope you enjoy it and it performs well for you. Wouldn't for me, wrong balance, 7 shots and internal lock just don't do it for me.
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Old December 9, 2021, 07:11 AM   #7
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The original L frames were decent .357s. Can't speak to any of the newer guns from personal experience, sorry.

I thought S&W got the weight right for magnum shooting, L frames weigh the same as N frames of the same barrel length, thanks to the underlug.

However, that same underlug was what killed them for me, because I don't like the way they balance in my hand. Its a completely personal matter, and no slam against the gun in any way. They just don't feel right to me.

Other folks love them, and thats great. My experience is that if a gun doesn't feel right in my hand, its more difficult to shoot it well.

Enjoy yours, it should be a fine gun. I hope you enjoy it and it performs well for you. Wouldn't for me, wrong balance, 7 shots and internal lock just don't do it for me.
I’ve always felt the same way about underlugs as well, until I got a GP100 with a 4” barrel. I polished up the internals a little, put in springs and shims from Triggershims.com and added a Hogue recoil tamer grip and it’s a fantastic pistol. As good DA as any Smith I’ve owned and almost as good SA as any Smith I’ve owned. If I could only have one revolver no doubt this is the one.
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Old December 11, 2021, 04:03 AM   #8
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I have the 3" and 6" 686, I have been procrastinating on the 4" and is on my bucket list. Congratulations on your purchase.
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Old December 11, 2021, 08:34 PM   #9
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4” 686+ here too. I changed to the Hogue Grips they used to come with with the backstrap exposed/finger grooves and plugged the Hillary hole. I love it.

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Old December 12, 2021, 12:31 AM   #10
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I don’t keep L frames, to new for me. I just sold NIB 586 Nickle 4” that I took on trade. I was tempted to shoot it but wimped out, didn’t want to make a used gun out of it.
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Old December 12, 2021, 01:52 PM   #11
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I don't like the way they balance in my hand. Its a completely personal matter, and no slam against the gun in any way. They just don't feel right to me.
Yep. Completely a personal matter. For me, I like the weight up front - tames muzzle flip. Especially my 8-3/8" bbl

To speak more seriously about the 8-3/8" bbl version: I bought it in March '84. At the time, I knew little about guns (I wasn't raised in a gun household, no hunters, etc.) and thought longer barrels were more accurate and just "better" somehow. And at the time I was much younger and stronger and liked all the front heft. I will say, that 8" beast has very - VERY - manageable recoil with even the hottest rounds. But that said, these days, the 8-3/8" sits in the safe and comes out to play maybe every third year or so, strictly for the novelty of it. I don't like its balance (because it's not balanced at all ) any more either.

A few years later, I bought my 4" 686 and it instantly became my favorite gun (only had five at the time). Still is. I like its balance a lot (back to that personal preference thing).

My 3" bbl has a really good feel to it too, and I'd suppose it would at least feel decent in the hand for those who don't care for the full underlug.
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Old December 12, 2021, 02:08 PM   #12
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The gripe with the 3" is now you're sporting an L frame in a 3" barrel for 357 performance. 357 does need some barrel length for all that blast you get.

Revolver ammo is more range novelty now (for me). So even the 3" has some appeal. Agreed. The 3" feels more "floating" free while the 4" feels solid...though not light.

Either way, I agree the 4" 686 is the bee's knees.
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Old December 12, 2021, 02:51 PM   #13
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Londy, very nice revolver IMHO. I have been a fan of the L-Frames since shortly after they were introduced. Carried a 586, than a 686, every working day for several years. I still have one L-Frame that I think of as a 686+/-, with both 6 and 7-shot cylinders.
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Old December 12, 2021, 05:26 PM   #14
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3" bbl

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357 does need some barrel length for all that blast you get
Basically, yes. But it also depends quite a bit on the ammo. It helps to load your own (as I do) and keep with heavier bullets and faster powders. This keeps things manageable with recoil and blast. And there is also factory ammo tailored for short barrel applications.

Typically, and exceptions abound, the difference in velocity is about 70 f/s between a 3" & 4" bbl. With the 3", there is more propellant burning in the air.
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Old December 12, 2021, 08:44 PM   #15
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Pardon my ignorance, but does "plus" means it holds 7 rounds.
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Old December 12, 2021, 09:00 PM   #16
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Old December 13, 2021, 08:50 AM   #17
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Yes. Plus means 7 rounds.
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Old December 13, 2021, 10:38 AM   #18
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Well guys, I can say that I FINALLY purchased a brand new 686! I've waited a very long time and I am very pleased. I love the look, feel and finish of this beast. I have not taken it to the range yet but I have shot these guns before and loved the performance.
Wanna like it, but the Hillary-Hole kills the desire every time.

Just sad to do that to a classic wheelgun. Very sad.
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Old December 13, 2021, 11:58 AM   #19
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I like it and really don't give a sheet weather it has the hole or not.
Stamped warning messages all over the gun about reading the owners manual aren't to attractive either but I haven't let them influence my buying/trading practices too much.
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Old December 13, 2021, 01:13 PM   #20
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I have 2 L frame guns, 4" 586 and a 4" 686 plus. Both are good to shoot. The extra weight from the lugged bbl is great in the 4" gun, 6" guns are good shooters but the weight is a bit much. I have a 2-1/2" 19 and a 6" 19, like both of them, much better for carry, L frames are better for shooting.
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Old December 14, 2021, 10:19 AM   #21
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New 66 is an option if you don't want the underlug weight.

You basically have to know and have a negative opinion before hand about the key lock hole that has existed for 20 years to have a problem with it.

Because it's "hillary" you hear about it. You NEVER hear about the GP100 just being the ugliest gun in the revolver world thanks to Ruger's writing on it like a kid with a Crayon. The GP100 left side of the barrel and under the barrel has warnings everywhere. The new 1771 (7 shot GP100) also has "7 Shot" now printed on the right side of the barrel.

If the lock hole kills the looks, you have zero other options in the L frame size
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Old December 14, 2021, 01:45 PM   #22
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If the lock hole kills the looks, you have zero other options in the L frame size.
Noop. Try a Ruger Police Service Six.

Good L-size Roscoe. Pick your desired barrel length.

Best of all, no esthetics-killing H-H.
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Old December 14, 2021, 03:12 PM   #23
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End of production 1988 though...

And correct me, but doesn't the Ruger Police Service Six also have 4 lines of text on the left side of the barrel just like the GP100 that I mentioned?
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Old December 14, 2021, 04:55 PM   #24
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And as nice as they were they aren't a 686.
What's wrong with getting an old pre-lock 686 or 586?
If that's your hang up?

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Old December 14, 2021, 07:38 PM   #25
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And correct me, but doesn't the Ruger Police Service Six also have 4 lines of text on the left side of the barrel just like the GP100 that I mentioned?
Noop.

So you stand corrected.
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