1858 Remington

Mudbug · June 23, 2011, 03:25 PM

I've seen several threads on these pistols. I was hoping someone might be able to help me ID a gift. The model I have has an "A" stamped above the trigger on the frame, with what appears to be an "s" slightly behind and below the "A". Any help would be appreciated.

mykeal · June 23, 2011, 04:23 PM

By itself that combination has no meaning for me. Are there any other marks, especially on the barrel under the loading lever? Is there a chance you could post pictures?

Doc Hoy · June 24, 2011, 04:30 AM

Armi San Marco's logo was a superimposed ASM. The M was barely detectable. In most of their work there was a second more intelligible marking on the floor face of the barrel, under the loading lever.

ASM is in my opinion an under-rated manufacturer. I have several and they are all of fairly good quality.

Photo would be helpful.

Mudbug · June 24, 2011, 07:38 AM

Thanks for the input. Not able to post pics right this minute, but I'll look in the suggested spots for marks.

Mudbug · June 24, 2011, 02:31 PM

Some of the stamps are hard to read, it does say made in Italy, with the initials RAU maybe? There is a serial number of 11558, what appears to be an upside down RG on the lever, and PN on several places.

Hawg · June 24, 2011, 02:54 PM

The initials are RAG and it was made by Rigarmi. They went under in the early 70's.

TXGunNut · June 24, 2011, 08:06 PM

Geez, HH, wish you'd waited til we got to see pix.

Post 'em when you can, Mudbug. Welcome to the asylum.

Mudbug · June 24, 2011, 09:03 PM

Thanks, I will. I've got the older navy colt, and I have the Uberti Henry in 45 colt. Been a revolver/ lever fan all my life. I appreciate all the input. Btw,do they make a conversion cylinder for this gun, or should I stay black powder?

Hawg · June 24, 2011, 09:04 PM

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Geez, HH, wish you'd waited til we got to see pix.

Well there's always the possibility I'm wrong. Not likely but possible.

Smokin_Gun · June 25, 2011, 01:04 AM

Good call Hawg...

Hawg · June 25, 2011, 03:27 AM

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do they make a conversion cylinder for this gun, or should I stay black powder?

No and to my knowledge none of the conversions they do make can be made to fit. Parts for these guns are hard to find.

arcticap · June 26, 2011, 04:58 PM

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do they make a conversion cylinder for this gun, or should I stay black powder?

No and to my knowledge none of the conversions they do make can be made to fit. Parts for these guns are hard to find.

I'm curious about how you know that none of the conversions can be made to fit a Rigarmi?
Has someone tried all of the ones available and couldn't make any of them fit?

Hawg · June 26, 2011, 05:22 PM

I said not to my knowledge. I know Pietta wont fit and I'm pretty sure Uberti wont fit even tho I haven't personally tried a Uberti.

June 23, 2011, 03:25 PM	#1
Mudbug Junior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Posts: 4	1858 Remington I've seen several threads on these pistols. I was hoping someone might be able to help me ID a gift. The model I have has an "A" stamped above the trigger on the frame, with what appears to be an "s" slightly behind and below the "A". Any help would be appreciated.

June 24, 2011, 04:30 AM	#3
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Mudbug Armi San Marco's logo was a superimposed ASM. The M was barely detectable. In most of their work there was a second more intelligible marking on the floor face of the barrel, under the loading lever. ASM is in my opinion an under-rated manufacturer. I have several and they are all of fairly good quality. Photo would be helpful. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

June 24, 2011, 08:06 PM	#7
TXGunNut Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: If you have to ask... Posts: 2,860	Geez, HH, wish you'd waited til we got to see pix. Post 'em when you can, Mudbug. Welcome to the asylum. __________________ Life Member NRA, TSRA Smokeless powder is a passing fad! -Steve Garbe I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it. -Woodrow F. Call Lonesome Dove My favorite recipes start out with a handful of used wheelweights.

June 25, 2011, 01:04 AM	#10
Smokin_Gun Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, CA Posts: 1,195	Good call Hawg... __________________ "I Smoke Black Powder" "Favor an 1858 Remington" SGT. Smokin' Gun, Mosby's Rangers 43rd Virginia Cavalry C.S.A. SASS# 19634, ... Admin:http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php

June 23, 2011, 04:23 PM	#2
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	By itself that combination has no meaning for me. Are there any other marks, especially on the barrel under the loading lever? Is there a chance you could post pictures?

June 24, 2011, 07:38 AM	#4
Mudbug Junior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Posts: 4	Thanks for the input. Not able to post pics right this minute, but I'll look in the suggested spots for marks.

June 24, 2011, 02:31 PM	#5
Mudbug Junior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Posts: 4	Some of the stamps are hard to read, it does say made in Italy, with the initials RAU maybe? There is a serial number of 11558, what appears to be an upside down RG on the lever, and PN on several places.

June 24, 2011, 02:54 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,194	The initials are RAG and it was made by Rigarmi. They went under in the early 70's.

June 24, 2011, 09:03 PM	#8
Mudbug Junior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Posts: 4	Thanks, I will. I've got the older navy colt, and I have the Uberti Henry in 45 colt. Been a revolver/ lever fan all my life. I appreciate all the input. Btw,do they make a conversion cylinder for this gun, or should I stay black powder?

June 26, 2011, 05:22 PM	#13
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,194	I said not to my knowledge. I know Pietta wont fit and I'm pretty sure Uberti wont fit even tho I haven't personally tried a Uberti.