|
Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
Register | FAQ | Calendar | Today's Posts | Search |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
October 10, 2017, 07:23 PM | #26 |
Member
Join Date: April 13, 2013
Posts: 25
|
You're not going to go wrong with a S&W Victory model.
|
October 11, 2017, 08:53 PM | #27 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 9, 2006
Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania.
Posts: 5,473
|
Quote:
.38 Spl = 0.3790 dia. .38 S&W= 0.3865 dia Boring out is unnecessary/counterproductive...making a cylinder that is already too big even bigger. .38 spl cases fired in .38 S&W chambers bulge and often split.
__________________
“Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member |
|
October 12, 2017, 05:55 AM | #28 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 31, 2011
Location: Vermont
Posts: 2,076
|
Quote:
It has to do with boring 'longer' in order to accept the longer .38SPCL case... |
|
October 12, 2017, 06:16 PM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 25, 2001
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,072
|
|
October 13, 2017, 07:52 AM | #30 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 9, 2006
Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania.
Posts: 5,473
|
Quote:
The chamber is wider than a .38 spl case for its entire length. The Special cases drop right in. What you do have to take care about is OAL. It is possible for the .38 S&W cylinder to be too short for a paricular Special loading. Boring is not gonna make the cylinder longer. If you wanted to shoot .38 S&W cartridges in a gun chambered for .38 Special, then you would have to bore out the chambers
__________________
“Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member |
|
October 13, 2017, 09:14 AM | #31 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 16, 2014
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,635
|
Quote:
38 S & W case length = .775 with a diameter of .3855 38 Special case length = 1.15 with a diameter of .379 A 38 S&W cylinder will have a chamber that can accept a case .775 inches long. After that there is either a step or a taper to the throat diameter of somewhere around .357 to .361. A 38 special case will fit into the charging hole and have wiggle room up to the case length of .775 but the whole case should not fit. I have half a dozen 38 S&W's - None of them accept a 38 special case. If you have a 38 S&W that has the charging holes bored straight through it will work, and it's possible some were manufactured that way but it's not common. Otherwise you must bore out the throat diameter to accept the longer 38 special case. This was a very common practice done to returning British Service Revolvers originally manufactured by S&W in the 38 S&W cartridge so they would be more attractive to US buyers. |
|
October 13, 2017, 12:19 PM | #32 |
Member
Join Date: January 6, 2017
Posts: 27
|
Jeff in post #29, that is a really nice Official Police! I knew S&W made a 38 S&W during WWII, but I did not know Colt did. I may have to look for one of those!!! Thanks for posting the photos.
|
October 13, 2017, 02:45 PM | #33 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 22, 2016
Posts: 3,888
|
Quote:
__________________
"We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."
|
|
October 13, 2017, 02:53 PM | #34 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 20, 2009
Location: Amity Oregon
Posts: 791
|
Just remembered more possibilities. S&W Royal Hong Kong Police.
38 S&W There were a bunch that came into the country years ago--not expensive at the time, but i haven't seen one for sale in quite a while. And if you want a Unicorn---find a 6" S&W model 11 |
October 13, 2017, 05:19 PM | #35 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 25, 2001
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,072
|
Will G
Quote:
Thank you. Yes Colt made it from late 1940 to July/August 1941. Nobody seems to know how many were made. The British paid cash for the 38/200 Official Police. It wasn't part of the Lend-Lease Act so the numbers were considerably smaller.The general consensus is approximately 25,000, but again nobody really knows. Oh beware however of one thing. Some were imported in the late fifties and early sixties and they were "converted" to 38 Special. I was lucky with this one. |
|
October 14, 2017, 08:33 AM | #36 |
Junior member
Join Date: April 17, 2005
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 519
|
The .38-200 Webley nomenclature refers to the original factory load - a 200-gr lead bullet at 600 FPS.
|
October 14, 2017, 12:50 PM | #37 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 9, 2006
Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania.
Posts: 5,473
|
NEI hand tools makes a mould (#149a)that duplicates the profile of the .38/200 loading. Lyman makes a mould that drops a LRN 185 grain bullet at .361 in WW alloy (#35840?)
__________________
“Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member |
October 14, 2017, 01:27 PM | #38 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 22, 2016
Posts: 3,888
|
There were some posts earlier in this thread that were talking about how .38 Special chambers and works in .38 S&W cylinders. I know that the Special case is too long to be shot from a standard .38 S&W chamber, but could .38 Short Colt chamber in a .38 S&W revolver and be shot from it? Would the case still bulge even tho the .38 Short Colt is a low pressure cartridge?
__________________
"We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."
|
October 20, 2017, 06:02 AM | #39 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 9, 2006
Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania.
Posts: 5,473
|
Left to right: .357 Mag., .38Spl. WC, .38 Colt, .38/200
__________________
“Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member |
October 23, 2017, 06:36 AM | #40 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 6, 2005
Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia
Posts: 4,767
|
I used to have one of those little H&R topbreakks in 38 S&W. It seemed to be a nice little gun. I sold it before firing it, but liked it.
They do have a weakness in that the mainspring has a plastic "yoke" on the end that is prone to breakage. Numrich has them if you need one. If you do, get two. In theory there is a version made with a metal "yoke" but I've never seen them in stock.
__________________
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV) |
|
|