A 9mm Beretta like the 80x Cheetah?

Pistoler0 · May 11, 2023, 01:28 PM

Does Beretta offer any DA/SA pistols with a frame mounted safety/decocker in a carry size, like the 80x Cheetah, but in 9mm?

92X Performance is more of a competition gun, and does not allow for cocked and locked carry if I am not mistaken.
And the Xi is SAO.

TailGator · May 11, 2023, 03:09 PM

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but I don't see how you can have a safety/decocker that can be carried cocked and locked.

OPC · May 11, 2023, 03:41 PM

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TailGator wrote: Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but I don't see how you can have a safety/decocker that can be carried cocked and locked.

It exists. HK (i.e. USP / USPc) does it.

Forte S+W · May 11, 2023, 10:18 PM

Taurus used to make one, but sadly it's no longer in production.

Dain Bramage · May 12, 2023, 01:45 PM

CZ 82 is DA/SA and can be carried cocked and locked. It doesn't have a decocker, though.

ballardw · May 12, 2023, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dain Bramage

CZ 82 is DA/SA and can be carried cocked and locked. It doesn't have a decocker, though.

Isn't the CZ 82 9mm Makarov? Not the easiest ammo to find.

Pistoler0 · May 12, 2023, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TailGator

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but I don't see how you can have a safety/decocker that can be carried cocked and locked.

My HK P30SK has a safety and a (separate) decocker, and can be carried cocked and locked if I want to.

I am looking for the same thing in a Beretta. Whether the safety and decocker are the same lever (like in the USP) or separate doesn't really matter to me, but I would like the ability to carry cocked and locked if I want to or decocked and safety on.

I don't want to go for a Beretta with a slide mounted safety because I like to have the same manual of arms in all my pistols.

sevt_chevelle · May 13, 2023, 07:10 PM

A FN fnx has a single lever that is safety and decocker, you can most certainly go cocked and locked.

The Beretta performance, defense and performance defense models all allow cocked and locked. I own them.

**Aguila Blanca** · May 13, 2023, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ballardw

Isn't the CZ 82 9mm Makarov? Not the easiest ammo to find.

Yes, it is, but the CZ-83 is the same firearm, chambered for .380 ACP.

Pistoler0 · May 15, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sevt_chevelle

A FN fnx has a single lever that is safety and decocker, you can most certainly go cocked and locked.

The Beretta performance, defense and performance defense models all allow cocked and locked. I own them.

Sevt,

how about hammer down safety on?

TailGator · May 15, 2023, 12:36 PM

Was not aware of that mechanism on the HK. It's a good day when you learn something new. Thanks, gang.

Nothing similar in a Beretta line that I am aware of, though.

sevt_chevelle · May 15, 2023, 08:32 PM

I don't remember off the top of my head, I shoot my CZ shadow 2s way more. I'll check on Wednesday when I get back home.

sevt_chevelle · May 17, 2023, 07:08 PM

With the hammer down, you can apply the safety lever.

Forte S+W · May 17, 2023, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TailGator

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but I don't see how you can have a safety/decocker that can be carried cocked and locked.

I have two such guns, the H&K USP and the Taurus PT92, both use a three position safety/decocker lever on the frame.

Up = Safe, Center = Fire, Down = Decock.
So you can cock the hammer back, flip the safety lever up, and carry them cocked and locked.

Pistoler0 · May 19, 2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sevt_chevelle

With the hammer down, you can apply the safety lever.

Are you talking about your FN or the Berettas?

smee78 · June 28, 2023, 11:25 AM

For my FNX-45 you can apply the hammer down with safety on.

Dont know of any Beretta product like that in the Cheeta size.

DaleA · June 28, 2023, 01:41 PM

Safety/Decocker
The Taurus 92, which is still in production, has a frame mounted safety lever that when pushed down will decock the pistol.
When the safety lever is pushed up the safety is on and the slide cannot be racked.
The safety can be pushed up if the hammer is cocked or the hammer is down (decocked).
I'd say the Taurus 92 is a 'full sized' firearm...maybe to big to be considered a 'carry firearm' like the OP wanted in their original post.

bjw741 · July 11, 2023, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TailGator

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but I don't see how you can have a safety/decocker that can be carried cocked and locked.

The Springfield XDe is a DA/SA with decocker that can also be carried cocked and locked. The manual safety switch is the decocker when pushed down and the manual safety is engaged when flipped up. With the gun cocked and the manual safety is engaged, the gun is essentially cocked and locked.

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Pistoler0 Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2019 Location: Conifer, CO Posts: 632	A 9mm Beretta like the 80x Cheetah? Does Beretta offer any DA/SA pistols with a frame mounted safety/decocker in a carry size, like the 80x Cheetah, but in 9mm? 92X Performance is more of a competition gun, and does not allow for cocked and locked carry if I am not mistaken. And the Xi is SAO. __________________ Life is simply an inter-temporal problem of constrained optimization. Last edited by Pistoler0; May 11, 2023 at 01:40 PM.

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Forte S+W Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2019 Posts: 822	Taurus used to make one, but sadly it's no longer in production. __________________ Conspiracy theorists are the greatest political spin-doctors of all time. Only they can make the absolute worst political blunders sound like spectacular feats of ingenuity.

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smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,952	For my FNX-45 you can apply the hammer down with safety on. Dont know of any Beretta product like that in the Cheeta size. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

May 11, 2023, 03:09 PM	#2
TailGator Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,809	Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but I don't see how you can have a safety/decocker that can be carried cocked and locked.

May 12, 2023, 01:45 PM	#5
Dain Bramage Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Arlington, WA Posts: 219	CZ 82 is DA/SA and can be carried cocked and locked. It doesn't have a decocker, though.

May 13, 2023, 07:10 PM	#8
sevt_chevelle Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Posts: 327	A FN fnx has a single lever that is safety and decocker, you can most certainly go cocked and locked. The Beretta performance, defense and performance defense models all allow cocked and locked. I own them.

May 15, 2023, 12:36 PM	#11
TailGator Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,809	Was not aware of that mechanism on the HK. It's a good day when you learn something new. Thanks, gang. Nothing similar in a Beretta line that I am aware of, though.

May 15, 2023, 08:32 PM	#12
sevt_chevelle Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Posts: 327	I don't remember off the top of my head, I shoot my CZ shadow 2s way more. I'll check on Wednesday when I get back home.

May 17, 2023, 07:08 PM	#13
sevt_chevelle Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Posts: 327	With the hammer down, you can apply the safety lever.

June 28, 2023, 01:41 PM	#17
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,384	Safety/Decocker The Taurus 92, which is still in production, has a frame mounted safety lever that when pushed down will decock the pistol. When the safety lever is pushed up the safety is on and the slide cannot be racked. The safety can be pushed up if the hammer is cocked or the hammer is down (decocked). I'd say the Taurus 92 is a 'full sized' firearm...maybe to big to be considered a 'carry firearm' like the OP wanted in their original post.