Seating the Meister .38 sp HBWC

Derm95 · April 20, 2002, 09:55 PM

The Meister .38 special HBWC 148 gr bullet has a cannalure groove on it. Is this where the seating depth should be?
Or should it be seated flush with the case like most wad cutters? I assume the former.

Bacchus · April 21, 2002, 09:21 AM

I usually seat by using OAL rather than a crimping groove in order to ensure that the pressure isn't too high. As long as you seat within the minimum and not over max, you should be OK.

Jim Watson · April 21, 2002, 09:28 AM

I'd try it both ways and see which is more accurate.
Most HBWC load data is based on flush seating and is very mild anyway, so there is no worry about pressures.

Derm95 · April 21, 2002, 12:09 PM

Thanks for the replies.

Since I'm using 357 magnum guns, I figure Maximum OAl won't be a problem.

I loaded up a batch at the cannelure groove today with 2.7 gr Bullseye to COAL 1.300 in.

The Meister bullet is slimmer past this cannelure groove so I thought that they must have designated it as the depth to seat it at rather than flush with the case.

The Meister bullet web site says their lawyers won't let them post load data.

Quantrill · April 21, 2002, 03:48 PM

Derm,
I agree with the above unless you intend using them in a Smith and Wesson model#52 which need flush mounted wadcutters to function. Quantrill

Jim Watson · April 21, 2002, 05:10 PM

Learn something every day.
I looked on the Meister site at the picture of that bullet. It appears have the bore diameter straight nose of the very old style wadcutters made before the H&G No 50 and its narrow front band and the hollow base flush seating wadcutters; but combined with their hollow base. Don't know of another like it. Seating to and crimping in the groove are most likely correct. Seeing that, I don't think I would choose it to seat flush for my M52.

April 20, 2002, 09:55 PM	#1
Derm95 Member Join Date: December 8, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 31	Seating the Meister .38 sp HBWC The Meister .38 special HBWC 148 gr bullet has a cannalure groove on it. Is this where the seating depth should be? Or should it be seated flush with the case like most wad cutters? I assume the former.

April 21, 2002, 09:21 AM	#2
Bacchus Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2001 Posts: 259	I usually seat by using OAL rather than a crimping groove in order to ensure that the pressure isn't too high. As long as you seat within the minimum and not over max, you should be OK.

April 21, 2002, 09:28 AM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,546	I'd try it both ways and see which is more accurate. Most HBWC load data is based on flush seating and is very mild anyway, so there is no worry about pressures.

April 21, 2002, 12:09 PM	#4
Derm95 Member Join Date: December 8, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 31	Thanks for the replies. Since I'm using 357 magnum guns, I figure Maximum OAl won't be a problem. I loaded up a batch at the cannelure groove today with 2.7 gr Bullseye to COAL 1.300 in. The Meister bullet is slimmer past this cannelure groove so I thought that they must have designated it as the depth to seat it at rather than flush with the case. The Meister bullet web site says their lawyers won't let them post load data.

April 21, 2002, 03:48 PM	#5
Quantrill Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 1999 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 725	38 wadcutters Derm, I agree with the above unless you intend using them in a Smith and Wesson model#52 which need flush mounted wadcutters to function. Quantrill

April 21, 2002, 05:10 PM	#6
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,546	Learn something every day. I looked on the Meister site at the picture of that bullet. It appears have the bore diameter straight nose of the very old style wadcutters made before the H&G No 50 and its narrow front band and the hollow base flush seating wadcutters; but combined with their hollow base. Don't know of another like it. Seating to and crimping in the groove are most likely correct. Seeing that, I don't think I would choose it to seat flush for my M52.