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Old November 21, 2015, 12:01 PM   #1
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Buffalo bore ammo

What type of powder are they using? I would like to get the same or near the same F/s they are getting.

The best I could do was 1489 f/s using 22grs of H110 out of my 4' ruger gp100. They are getting 1600+ f/s out of a 4' barrel.

Has anyone been able to get the same results?

FYI I have been reloading for 3yrs now. I always follow my handbooks, just cant find a load to match buffalo bore.
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Old November 21, 2015, 12:03 PM   #2
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can you give a specific load/bullet/weight which you are investigating?

I have made some stupid fast loads with lil' gun.
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Old November 21, 2015, 12:11 PM   #3
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I was working with the hornady XTP 125 gr bullets. It calls for max of 22grs H110. Not sure of the OAL. Dont have the book in front of me right now.

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Old November 21, 2015, 02:23 PM   #4
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Not sure of the OAL.
Put your calipers away. The 125 XTP is a revolver bullet with a cannelure. Crimp it in the cannelure - done.

Have you put the Buffalo Bore 125 XTP's in your gun and chronographed them? If not, you're chasing a ghost.

Also, speaking for my 4" bbl 686, the velocity champ powder with 125's is Power Pistol. H110 is too slow for the short barrel - it just delivers a bunch of flash and recoil. Shooting H110-loaded ammo through short-barreled guns is silly. The 4-foot flame bloom and tremendous recoil gives quite a show at the range; but it's otherwise silly. Works great in my 8-3/8" bbl 686 though

And . . .

I have no desire to emulate Bullfalo Bore's ammo. Not knocking their products; I just personally find it pointless. And notice I said "emulate," not "duplicate." They are probably using a bulk non-canister-grade propellant. So not only is it pointless, it's hopeless. I recommend building your ammo, and let them build their ammo.

Point to ponder . . .

How fast do you really want your 125's to go? Why? Do you know the 125 XTP's terminal ballistic characteristics at increasing velocities? I'd venture to say that their optimum performance is probably no more than 1400 f/s. After that, their expansion probably becomes too violent for proper terminal performance. And they're likely designed to reach optimum performance starting at about 1200 f/s or so.

The 357 Mag 125 XTP defense loading I settled on (not the max tested) is 9.6gns of Power Pistol (in compliance with Speer #14). Delivers 1371 f/s through my 4"; and 1307 f/s through my 3" (also a 686). That's plenty of performance for me.
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Old November 21, 2015, 03:48 PM   #5
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