Suppose you are being shot at in a parking lot - Page 2

A J · April 27, 2017, 10:43 AM

Another option: If you're 50-75 meters away, why not just keep running? I'm thinking it would be very difficult to hit an adrenalin-filled, moving target zig zagging around parked cars.

The few times I stumbled upon wasp nests, I was AMAZED at how fast I could sprint, easily outpacing the best Olympic runner.

Lohman446 · April 27, 2017, 10:48 AM

Being shot at and missed at that range implies you were not the primary target or the person shooting is not that good of a shot. You know the old theory on hunting: one shot = one deer, two shots = maybe one deer, three shots = no deer.

This idea of running does make some sense to me. That being said if my wife and children are with me that entire plan changes and running I am doing is to close distance if there is any thought we are or will be on the target list.

Glenn E. Meyer · April 27, 2017, 10:56 AM

Just a commment, it is usually frowned upon to revive necro threads.

We prefer starting a new one with new information.

Rangerrich99 · April 27, 2017, 05:28 PM

A few facts:

70% of all new cars sold in the U.S. in the last five years come with cast aluminum engine blocks.

The most popular (new) passenger car sold in America is the Toyota Corolla. With an aluminum block.

The Corolla engine block weighs in at 225 lbs. dry.

None of the most common handgun rounds (380 auto, 9mm, 38 spl, .357 mag, .40 S&W, 10 mm, .44 mag, .45 ACP) are going through that block.

Shooting through an aluminum wheel on the other hand, isn't much of a trick, apparently.

Carry on.

MosinNOUGAT · April 27, 2017, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Drop me a PM if you are headed towards the Dallas area and you and Boomer can go at it with ball and APIT rounds and do your own testing.

Ha, maybe I will

MosinNOUGAT · April 27, 2017, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Just a commment, it is usually frowned upon to revive necro threads.

Sorry. . .

I probably won't do this again anyways

Mobuck · April 27, 2017, 08:49 PM

"If I was near my vehicle I would take cover behind"

SOMEONE ELSE'S CAR!!!!!!!

No need to have your own ride shot up and ruin your change to get away.

James K · April 27, 2017, 11:40 PM

Suppose someone is shooting at me from 275.3634 yards (measured with a super accurate laser) and a deflection of 23.87 degrees at 8:07:13 PM on April 14, in Mobile, AL. The shooter is using a .30-'06 Remington 700 with a 24" barrel and a Super X factory load with a 150 grain bullet. Those are facts that I have carefully measured while dodging bullets.

The question I have is how often folks fall for nonsense like that, really believing that someone can do detailed planning to handle every possible situation, no matter how absurd or unlikely.

(If you are being shot at, you take cover under or behind anything that will stop a bullet or even that will conceal you from the shooter; you don't run around measuring engine blocks or doing a material analysis on car parts.)

Jim

Danoobie · April 28, 2017, 12:24 AM

I would depart the parking lot as quickly as is safely possible.
Then I would go home, and work on improving my people
skills...

April 27, 2017, 10:56 AM	#28
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,061	Just a commment, it is usually frowned upon to revive necro threads. We prefer starting a new one with new information. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

April 27, 2017, 05:28 PM	#29
Rangerrich99 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Location: Kinda near Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,254	A few facts: 70% of all new cars sold in the U.S. in the last five years come with cast aluminum engine blocks. The most popular (new) passenger car sold in America is the Toyota Corolla. With an aluminum block. The Corolla engine block weighs in at 225 lbs. dry. *None* of the most common handgun rounds (380 auto, 9mm, 38 spl, .357 mag, .40 S&W, 10 mm, .44 mag, .45 ACP) are going through that block. Shooting through an aluminum wheel on the other hand, isn't much of a trick, apparently. Carry on. Last edited by Rangerrich99; April 27, 2017 at 07:57 PM.

April 27, 2017, 10:43 AM	#26
A J Member Join Date: September 20, 2016 Posts: 28	Another option: If you're 50-75 meters away, why not just keep running? I'm thinking it would be very difficult to hit an adrenalin-filled, moving target zig zagging around parked cars. The few times I stumbled upon wasp nests, I was AMAZED at how fast I could sprint, easily outpacing the best Olympic runner.

April 27, 2017, 10:48 AM	#27
Lohman446 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2016 Posts: 2,192	Being shot at and missed at that range implies you were not the primary target or the person shooting is not that good of a shot. You know the old theory on hunting: one shot = one deer, two shots = maybe one deer, three shots = no deer. This idea of running does make some sense to me. That being said if my wife and children are with me that entire plan changes and running I am doing is to close distance if there is any thought we are or will be on the target list.

April 27, 2017, 08:49 PM	#32
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	"If I was near my vehicle I would take cover behind" SOMEONE ELSE'S CAR!!!!!!! No need to have your own ride shot up and ruin your change to get away.

April 27, 2017, 11:40 PM	#33
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Suppose someone is shooting at me from 275.3634 yards (measured with a super accurate laser) and a deflection of 23.87 degrees at 8:07:13 PM on April 14, in Mobile, AL. The shooter is using a .30-'06 Remington 700 with a 24" barrel and a Super X factory load with a 150 grain bullet. Those are facts that I have carefully measured while dodging bullets. The question I have is how often folks fall for nonsense like that, really believing that someone can do detailed planning to handle every possible situation, no matter how absurd or unlikely. (If you are being shot at, you take cover under or behind anything that will stop a bullet or even that will conceal you from the shooter; you don't run around measuring engine blocks or doing a material analysis on car parts.) Jim

April 28, 2017, 12:24 AM	#34
Danoobie Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2017 Posts: 351	I would depart the parking lot as quickly as is safely possible. Then I would go home, and work on improving my people skills...