Austin American Statesman says that Campus Carry bill will not pass - Page 2

Glenn E. Meyer · May 31, 2015, 08:35 PM

Passed!

Machineguntony · May 31, 2015, 09:47 PM

*Happy feet*

I love living in Texas!

We have practically everything, including the best NFA allowances and the best BBQ (Micklethwait).

Yes!

Bartholomew Roberts · May 31, 2015, 10:11 PM

Yes, they voted on and passed the Conference Committee report today. In this session, we passed the following bills:

Open Carry
Campus carry
Constitutional right to hunt and fish
Offer more protections to NFA owners by fixing defense to prosecution penalties
Established civil fines for municipalities/officials who illegally post public property with 30.06 laws
State preemption on knife laws

We didn't get everything we wanted (and rarely do) but this was an impressive run as sessions go.

Slaprackbang · May 31, 2015, 10:36 PM

Very happy about the ability to open carry. Doesn't mean I will, but now, when concealing I won't have to worry about someone getting a peek.

Call the police if you want... When they come and ask for my license I will be happy to show it. We, after all, are the good guys.

I like the fact that that you still have to have your CHL to be allowed to carry openly... At least I know that you had SOME instruction before you strapped that big iron on your hip.

Open carry is going to attract a lot of attention. Attention I would prefer not to have, and I believe, attention that criminals don't want. IMHO, bad guys will not be carrying open. Those who aren't licensed won't be carrying open.

There are lots of places that you cannot take your gun in with you. Get ready to leave it in your truck. And still, if in that slim-chance situation that I can save a life, it will all be worth it. I hope it never happens.

Machineguntony · May 31, 2015, 10:45 PM

Awesome session

csmsss · June 1, 2015, 07:10 AM

CC passed, BUT...does not go into effect until the Fall 2016 semester. That was a change introduced in conference.

SamNavy · June 1, 2015, 10:17 AM

Did the carve-out for private universities make it in?

Bartholomew Roberts · June 1, 2015, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Did the carve-out for private universities make it in?

It did. Though the prohibition even there isn't absolute. Here is the enrolled version of the bill that the Governor will sign:
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs...l/SB00011F.htm

SamNavy · June 2, 2015, 02:53 PM

Quote:

(e) A private or independent institution of higher
education in this state, after consulting with students, staff, and
faculty of the institution, may establish rules, regulations, or
other provisions prohibiting license holders from carrying
handguns on the campus of the institution, any grounds or building
on which an activity sponsored by the institution is being
conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle owned by the
institution.

That looks pretty absolute to me.

Bartholomew Roberts · June 2, 2015, 03:13 PM

The universities have to report to the legislature on every building posted, and can't post the entire campus; but have to post every particular building to give effect to that prohibition. It certainly isn't ideal; but it is progress.

Glenn E. Meyer · June 2, 2015, 04:47 PM

I know that some private Presidents are all excited to ban the entire campus! They didn't even know about the parking lot laws -

.

They are also immune to factual arguments.

Bartholomew Roberts · June 2, 2015, 06:59 PM

The Campus Carry bill certainly has a lot of gray areas that will probably be litigated or the subject of later legislation. I'm sure private institutions will point to (e) and claim ability to ban all concealed carry and ignore the qualifications in (d) that also apply to private institutions.

Plus the "adjacent to campus" language, etc. It is definitely not what I would have hoped; but it gives us so ething to work with.

Machineguntony · June 2, 2015, 07:23 PM

You can't always get everything you want. Progress sometimes must come in steps. This is a step forward.

May 31, 2015, 08:35 PM	#26
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Passed! __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

May 31, 2015, 09:47 PM	#27
Machineguntony Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Posts: 1,277	Happy feet I love living in Texas! We have practically everything, including the best NFA allowances and the best BBQ (Micklethwait). Yes! __________________ Sent from Motorola DynaTac 8000x

May 31, 2015, 10:36 PM	#29
Slaprackbang Junior Member Join Date: April 2, 2015 Posts: 11	No more "printing violation." Very happy about the ability to open carry. Doesn't mean I will, but now, when concealing I won't have to worry about someone getting a peek. Call the police if you want... When they come and ask for my license I will be happy to show it. We, after all, are the good guys. I like the fact that that you still have to have your CHL to be allowed to carry openly... At least I know that you had SOME instruction before you strapped that big iron on your hip. Open carry is going to attract a lot of attention. Attention I would prefer not to have, and I believe, attention that criminals don't want. IMHO, bad guys will not be carrying open. Those who aren't licensed won't be carrying open. There are lots of places that you cannot take your gun in with you. Get ready to leave it in your truck. And still, if in that slim-chance situation that I can save a life, it will all be worth it. I hope it never happens.

May 31, 2015, 10:45 PM	#30
Machineguntony Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Posts: 1,277	Awesome session __________________ Sent from Motorola DynaTac 8000x

June 2, 2015, 04:47 PM	#36
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	I know that some private Presidents are all excited to ban the entire campus! They didn't even know about the parking lot laws - . They are also immune to factual arguments. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

May 31, 2015, 10:11 PM	#28
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	Yes, they voted on and passed the Conference Committee report today. In this session, we passed the following bills: Open Carry Campus carry Constitutional right to hunt and fish Offer more protections to NFA owners by fixing defense to prosecution penalties Established civil fines for municipalities/officials who illegally post public property with 30.06 laws State preemption on knife laws We didn't get everything we wanted (and rarely do) but this was an impressive run as sessions go.

June 1, 2015, 07:10 AM	#31
csmsss Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 3,078	CC passed, BUT...does not go into effect until the Fall 2016 semester. That was a change introduced in conference.

June 1, 2015, 10:17 AM	#32
SamNavy Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 2011 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 433	Did the carve-out for private universities make it in?

June 2, 2015, 03:13 PM	#35
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	The universities have to report to the legislature on every building posted, and can't post the entire campus; but have to post every particular building to give effect to that prohibition. It certainly isn't ideal; but it is progress.

June 2, 2015, 06:59 PM	#37
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	The Campus Carry bill certainly has a lot of gray areas that will probably be litigated or the subject of later legislation. I'm sure private institutions will point to (e) and claim ability to ban all concealed carry and ignore the qualifications in (d) that also apply to private institutions. Plus the "adjacent to campus" language, etc. It is definitely not what I would have hoped; but it gives us so ething to work with.

June 2, 2015, 07:23 PM	#38
Machineguntony Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Posts: 1,277	You can't always get everything you want. Progress sometimes must come in steps. This is a step forward. __________________ Sent from Motorola DynaTac 8000x