Keep awake !

mete · April 26, 2012, 05:46 PM

Prevention is always better and easier . I laughed today at an article stating that subway crime in NYC has gone way up. The BGs go after sleeping riders .I spent many years riding the subway there and one of the first things you should learn is - subways are not for sleeping !!
Awareness is always the first line of defense !

ChaseReynolds · April 26, 2012, 05:55 PM

I have never ridden a subway but it doesn't seem that it would be easy to sleep. I have also never been to NYC but not to sure that I could sleep there either.

Glenn E. Meyer · April 26, 2012, 07:00 PM

I have and you can. It's not a good idea. Sleeping a noisy environment is a good skill but not in dangerous places.

Hook686 · April 26, 2012, 10:04 PM

This is sound advice not just in NYC. In Sacramento CA a Transit cop on light rail told me if you doze off you just might get knifed just for the shoes you are wearing. I sometimes wonder what open carry folks do if they get sleepy in a public environment.

johnwilliamson062 · April 28, 2012, 04:27 AM

I can't imagine ho would think this was a good idea. I know many ride trains for hours to get into DC or NY each day and must be tired as the ride, but still seems common sense.

P5 Guy · April 28, 2012, 02:51 PM

The gentle rocking, lights going off and on, drunk singing at the top of his lungs.

Why would anyone riding solo even close both eyes at the same time?

sigcurious · April 28, 2012, 03:13 PM

I've unintentionally snoozed on the NYC subway while living there. Beyond not just wanting to be a sleeping target, I didn't want to end up 10 stops past my stop.

Fortunately nothing ever came of the times I drifted off. Sadly though, they were probably at some of the worst times to drift off on a train, later at night, few riders.

ClydeFrog · April 29, 2012, 02:22 AM

I was just in New York City around the end of Jan. The city & metro area seemed a lot less crowded & hectic as when I visited in the late 1990s.
When I rode the subways in the 90s, they were super packed in the daytime.
It was rough.
In Mar, 2012 I got a good friend in New York a Uzi tactical pen to carry on the streets. The alloy metal pen is handy & includes a bezel crown design.

He likes it & most of the online reviews of the Uzi pen are +.
Tactical pens like the Uzi, the Tuff Writer & Tactical TakeDown are impressive. You can train to disable a subject with a pen then draw your primary sidearm.

ClydeFrog

g.willikers · April 30, 2012, 01:23 PM

In NY City, anyone carrying a shootin' iron better either be a cop or a cousin of the Mayor.
Lots of other close use weapons are available, as long as they don't look like it.
Better yet, don't go to places that give the edge to the criminals.
The last time I was in Chicago, there were folks walking around, right out in the open and past cops, with boy scout type small axes in their back pockets, with the handle sticking out.
Somehow it was legal when most other weapons are not.

Nnobby45 · April 30, 2012, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Prevention is always better and easier . I laughed today at an article stating that subway crime in NYC has gone way up. The BGs go after sleeping riders .I spent many years riding the subway there and one of the first things you should learn is - subways are not for sleeping !!
Awareness is always the first line of defense

Well, if subway crimes are going way up and they've always been targeting sleeping victims, it logically follows that --either there are a lot more sleeping victims than there used to be, or they're now targeting awake victims as well.

Therefore, why are you laughing?

besafe2 · May 1, 2012, 11:23 AM

Sleeping on ANY public transportation=bad idea.

btmj · May 1, 2012, 03:19 PM

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Sleeping on ANY public transportation=bad idea.

Does that include trans-pacific flights? I often sleep on the plane when I am flying to Asia or Australia... just say'in...

besafe2 · May 2, 2012, 11:28 AM

Sometimes when flying I wish I could sleep, but I think you're good

Glenn E. Meyer · May 2, 2012, 11:41 AM

I fall asleep on planes with ease. Best way to fly. Or I read Mitch Rapp novels.

I'm willing to chance that I will wake up if somebody goes nuts in the plane.

If we are plummeting to our doom - rather sleep through it.

There was an experiment done by the Brits on stress. They told a flight of soldiers that their plane was going to crash in a bit, no fuel.

They had to time to write their loved ones a letter. Then surprise, they weren't going to die. Then the researchers analyzed the letters for stress related writing errrors. Quite charming.

Nnobby45 · May 2, 2012, 07:16 PM

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Does that include trans-pacific flights? I often sleep on the plane when I am flying to Asia or Australia... just say'in...

Yes, it includes planes. I woke up before landing at Kennedy International, and my martini AND peanuts had disappeared.

April 26, 2012, 05:46 PM	#1
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Keep awake ! Prevention is always better and easier . I laughed today at an article stating that subway crime in NYC has gone way up. The BGs go after sleeping riders .I spent many years riding the subway there and one of the first things you should learn is - subways are not for sleeping !! Awareness is always the first line of defense !

April 26, 2012, 07:00 PM	#3
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,061	I have and you can. It's not a good idea. Sleeping a noisy environment is a good skill but not in dangerous places. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

April 28, 2012, 02:51 PM	#6
P5 Guy Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,804	Snoozing & Subways The gentle rocking, lights going off and on, drunk singing at the top of his lungs. Why would anyone riding solo even close both eyes at the same time?

April 29, 2012, 02:22 AM	#8
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	I love New York, tactical pens.... I was just in New York City around the end of Jan. The city & metro area seemed a lot less crowded & hectic as when I visited in the late 1990s. When I rode the subways in the 90s, they were super packed in the daytime. It was rough. In Mar, 2012 I got a good friend in New York a Uzi tactical pen to carry on the streets. The alloy metal pen is handy & includes a bezel crown design. He likes it & most of the online reviews of the Uzi pen are +. Tactical pens like the Uzi, the Tuff Writer & Tactical TakeDown are impressive. You can train to disable a subject with a pen then draw your primary sidearm. ClydeFrog

May 2, 2012, 11:41 AM	#14
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,061	I fall asleep on planes with ease. Best way to fly. Or I read Mitch Rapp novels. I'm willing to chance that I will wake up if somebody goes nuts in the plane. If we are plummeting to our doom - rather sleep through it. There was an experiment done by the Brits on stress. They told a flight of soldiers that their plane was going to crash in a bit, no fuel. They had to time to write their loved ones a letter. Then surprise, they weren't going to die. Then the researchers analyzed the letters for stress related writing errrors. Quite charming. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

April 26, 2012, 05:55 PM	#2
ChaseReynolds Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2012 Location: Fort Riley, Kansas Posts: 186	I have never ridden a subway but it doesn't seem that it would be easy to sleep. I have also never been to NYC but not to sure that I could sleep there either.

April 26, 2012, 10:04 PM	#4
Hook686 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2005 Location: USA The Great State of California Posts: 2,090	This is sound advice not just in NYC. In Sacramento CA a Transit cop on light rail told me if you doze off you just might get knifed just for the shoes you are wearing. I sometimes wonder what open carry folks do if they get sleepy in a public environment.

April 28, 2012, 04:27 AM	#5
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,994	I can't imagine ho would think this was a good idea. I know many ride trains for hours to get into DC or NY each day and must be tired as the ride, but still seems common sense.

April 28, 2012, 03:13 PM	#7
sigcurious Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2011 Posts: 1,755	I've unintentionally snoozed on the NYC subway while living there. Beyond not just wanting to be a sleeping target, I didn't want to end up 10 stops past my stop. Fortunately nothing ever came of the times I drifted off. Sadly though, they were probably at some of the worst times to drift off on a train, later at night, few riders.

April 30, 2012, 01:23 PM	#9
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	In NY City, anyone carrying a shootin' iron better either be a cop or a cousin of the Mayor. Lots of other close use weapons are available, as long as they don't look like it. Better yet, don't go to places that give the edge to the criminals. The last time I was in Chicago, there were folks walking around, right out in the open and past cops, with boy scout type small axes in their back pockets, with the handle sticking out. Somehow it was legal when most other weapons are not.

May 1, 2012, 11:23 AM	#11
besafe2 Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2008 Location: NC Posts: 117	Sleeping on ANY public transportation=bad idea.

May 2, 2012, 11:28 AM	#13
besafe2 Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2008 Location: NC Posts: 117	Sometimes when flying I wish I could sleep, but I think you're good